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I'm more certain about bats because the votes were so close. IT genuinely seende like a dying attempt to stay alive.
I also think he had given up at that point because he later says "if I had known you guys wouldn't lynch me I would have come back sooner".
So to me that seemed like a genuine attempt to lynch bats.
I'll have to reevaluate sulfurs case against you before I make any statements either way:
I feel very certain that bats is town though.
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I really want to lynch oats.
Reading kicks filter from day 2, he was one of the strongest if not the strongest proponent on lynching sulfur. If kicks goes out and pushes his teammate is hard, how can oats come to the conclusion that kick doesn't know about bussing?
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On June 19 2015 02:49 Rels wrote: I made a list of people voting for me day 2. Damdred is in it and oats is not.
Damdred and oats are on my poe list.
When the lists are crossed that gives this result.
I want to say that I really appreciate you putting in a lot of work rels even if people didn't comment much on it!
Good job
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I'm trying to put together a case against scott, but I don't have much.
Here's what I got on scott:
Sulfur is looking bad day 2, he needs attention away from himself. He looks for an easy target, finds oats. Tries to put together a case on oats. Scott then makes a case on oats as a "joke". He does it carefully using maybe and could a lot, does not want to vote on oats before it picks up steam, which it never does. Looking at scotts filter that is probably the strongest case he has made all game, yet he is quick to dismiss it as a joke to disassociate himself from it when he sees how it could potentially backfire.
Scott also later tries to put together a case against me and oats creating an association. Oats was an easy target and I was already controversial for my standpoints on sulfurus.
Kinda weak case from me, but I'm throwing it out there anyway.
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The more I look at it I don't think that scott and oats are mafia together. More likely scott and sulfur I guess.
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I also want to put damdred in the spotlight some.
I feel like he's been invisible all game. I honestly couldn't give you a read on him since I've barely seen him all game.
Is he just inactive town or good mafia?
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On June 19 2015 04:41 Kickstart wrote:He tends to sit back like this. But he does come in when it counts or when there is pressure and does decent then. That is how I felt he did day2 and that is why I like him for now. I would agree that other than the day2 he has been very under the radar but that is exactly how I felt about him in the 1 other games I played with him (thin it was just 1  ) and that is just how he plays. Scott is a good lynch today. My worry is with Oats is that he could be mafia or town and just being lazy, but if we allow him to live to mylo or lylo we are in a real bad spot having to try to read him, whereas almost everyone else would be easier to read at that point I think. That said we still have time and a scott lynch again looks the best to me (I'm about equal on oats vs scott lynch but seems most people arent as sure on an oats lynch as I am).
Would you agree that if scott is mafia then oats is town?
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I agree, let's hear scott defend himself.
##Vote scott
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Thinking about it I kind of feel like oats is genuine in his wishywashyness and being all over the place.
It doesn't really seem faked, like it's just his natural way of being, get what I mean?
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I think scotts only way of defending himself is attacking oats or me, maybe damdred.
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On June 19 2015 05:15 Rels wrote: Don't have any motivation to do a scott case with 6/8 people on him. Just the voting pattern is enough for me for voting him, and I don't need a case to convince people already voting for him.
I'm gonna sleep now so see you tomorrow. Take care everyone (=
Good night
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I tried the too obvious to be scum approach on sulfur. Didn't get me anywhere.
I'm actually happy to see everyone agree on something for once. Besides, he still has a lot of time to defend himself, so if he's town I'm sure he'll try his best to put up a good fight for his case.
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On June 19 2015 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote: I do want to hear your meta on Damdred that you mentioned.
I second this.
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On June 19 2015 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:12 ruXxar wrote: I tried the too obvious to be scum approach on sulfur. Didn't get me anywhere.
I'm actually happy to see everyone agree on something for once. Besides, he still has a lot of time to defend himself, so if he's town I'm sure he'll try his best to put up a good fight for his case. I'm not saying Scott is too obvious to be scum, but if everybody is on him like this, I dunno maybe I expected it to be 'more obvious' if that makes sense? Like I'll admit I haven't read a great deal lately but I haven't found anything massively compelling by skimming. Hence one of the reasons I feel I've been too lazy and need to start looking deeper. I mean there's also the fact that Scott is only one of two scum if he does flip red.
I don't know how veteran games are, but I came in here with kind of high expectations, treating everyone with respect, and trying to read what the most optimal mafia play would be. Granted, this is my first game, so I have very limited experience to draw from, but I think i kinda WIFOMed myself into thinking the game was harder than it was, and in a way that logic became a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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On June 19 2015 06:43 WaveofShadow wrote: ##vote: Damdred
What did you gather on damdred?
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Meh.
I guess we just wait until the accused people show up and defend themselves.
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On June 19 2015 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote:hes mafia.
I'd like to hear why you think Dandre's is mafia. Do you have any reasons besides process of elimination?
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Scott, your top scum reads right now are Damdred and bats. I want to see you make a case against both, bring all the dirt you can find and fight for you life!
From the way you are posting I don't feel like you are even believing in your own words right now. Where is the passion, where is the anger inside you of being falsely accused of being mafia.
Either you show me that or you are toast.
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Scott, if I were you I would try make at least 1 case against a mafia that is compelling enough to vote them over you. Nothing would help your defense more than that in my eyes.
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On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote: Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.
I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott. I'm sorry.
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