Not sure where a lot of that came from(?)

One you haven't in any sense of the imagination proved why I a scum to the thread, you have said that I led a lynch on town KS. Which is true, but town lynches town all of the time. Saying I haven't taken any stances is vastly untrue, town reads are stances, driving a lynch is a stance.

You said that you thought he was correct or could be correct. Honestly if I think my town read is being voted off I vote the person who I think has a decent chance to be scum and try to not get my town read lynched? instead you were lazy and useless with your vote.

I never said that you were pushing scum on everyone, not anywhere in my post did I infer that. In fact you are just stating that X is scum you aren't pushing it with any reasonable thought process. You are using contrived reasoning to try to prove that myself and tick are scum for pushing a town wagon. Which happens a lot.

Once again you still haven't explained why any of us are scum, or why you specifically want to only lynch me, when I have taken a lot of stances this agme disproving everything you have said about me btw.

Also chocolate has been breaking eveyr promise he has made this game, and you refused to vote him d1 over our only blue role? that makes no sense to me, unless you are 100% sure of his alignment anyway.

As such i'm not really worried about town cred because generally only mafia CARE about how much town cred they have. For example you are relying on this "town cred" by unvoting without actually doing anything towny.

Milo is scum I think actually.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 20:11 GMT

#1516

Ummm? Its night? Its impossible to vote and night time is the time to revisit things?

You said Tick is possible scum, infact you did scum read him, or partialy scum read him. hes third on your list currently I believe as is shown in your filter.

You are getting so defensive because i'm looking at you, so are several other people. And you still refuse to give any answer as why i'm scum, because your read doesn't hold any water.

Promises are important in mafia, if you promise content and don't deliver on it... theres a good chance that you are scum, its a general rule.

So defensive for no reason?

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 21:48 GMT

#1523

GG shen.

Its an interesting night kill, I was halfway expecting it to be VE or scott.

I'm not sure what to do quite yet, i'm debating if i'm just wrong on everything and need to look at everyone again or if i'm right and mafia just thinks today is the lynch damdred day.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 21:49 GMT

#1525

Its just really interesting to me that i'm the only person that was on both town wagons both days. Usually some lazy mafia would sneak in to secure a mislynch.

Its interesting but i'm nto sure if its important yet.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 21:59 GMT

#1527

I'm not sure how I pussy foot around exactly? I'm really tired of these strange reads that people can't really explain with examples etc.,

So most reads over the course of a game is wrong. That's part of mafia.

Yeah but I ended up thinking TT was town, and said so multiple times.

I am genuine

I'm not sure what this means, overall I've been pretty in control. I told scott what I thought especially since hes watched a lot of the games I've been in and knows that my meta is drastically different than what he has shown.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 22:07 GMT

#1530

I still don't see how its pussy footing around.

If you look at the first pages of almost everyones filter you will see mostly soft reads due to the non information that has started in games.

My biggest read was Ritoky early. I have a way to 100% read ritoky most of the time tbh. So I held back to make sure I was right and gave it. I also had good feelings about several other people.

People give town reads early as hunting into your non town reads is just as good as hunting into scummy people for others. Its just a preference.

Just don't get why so many people are trying to scum read me for it however.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 22:22 GMT

#1533

Basically what you are suggesting is that in a perfect world a horrible mafia team would self destruct against a good town.

Well this isn't a perfect world, people in the game haven't acted that towny at points. Myself included in that, as I know that I haven't been 100% towny this game.

Also you've just answered your own somewhat accusation of me having people 100% town. Obviously I don't if over a period of 24 hours I start relooking at milo and decide maybe he isn't as lock town as I had him even in the previous phase. Scott I had super high up as town and now hes middlish of the pack.

Tick I am really sure is town, and i'd probably be really happy if hes scum and beat me.

So no I don't think I am 100% sure that I think everyone is town xcept for four people. I think onegs town I guess but I wouldn't want to take him to lylo either (shrug).

Anyway before I got side track, sometimes town destroys town with the inability to get around tunnels, to not re evaluate the game. And sometimes town just acts dumb even against horrible scum teams.

Granted I havent' been perfect i'd rather just figure this out then be terrible and shout at the same person for hours they are scum..

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 22:25 GMT

#1534

For example, someone like Choclate and Milo wont' fully explain there reads. Chocloate just promises that he will later but never does, milo just sort of exists and hopes his unvote at the eod1 carries him and just screams damdred is scum.

Its frustrating and if neither are scum its really unfortunate town would act that way. However its not out of the realm of possibility.

VE could be playing a decent scum game, there are points in which you could say hes not going about it with a towny mindset, could be. but hes looked towny at other points.

Soooo obviously i'm not voting myself and you and milo say we cant lynch into x players. who would you want me to look at lynching, convince me

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 22:32 GMT

#1537

well idk we havw to figure that out as we go.

We have to lynch the scummiest person today obviously, do I think that's oneg I don't, but we should talk about everyone.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 22:56 GMT

#1539

Well tbh, both really misplayed the town alignment so i'm not going to hold that against tick. Also tick wasn't even on KS I believe(?)

And not sure what you mean by nothing sticks? I don't think a lot of the things said against him have been valid when compared to his gameplay I suppose?

Is tt the one you really want to lynch today (besides me obviously)

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 08 2015 23:05 GMT

#1541

A bit. But its a hard game.

Talk to me about Scott and TT, tell me why you think both are scum. which you would want to lynch and why.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 09 2015 01:43 GMT

#1553

If we ignore the invite I couldn't tell you why he was towm. So no.

why would you ignore him nhm?

Fei we shouldn't look at one person we should evaluate everyone today.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 09 2015 15:40 GMT

#1575

Well Milo I've asked several times for you to explain your reads today and you won't. All you keep saying is we should lynch outside this group which isn't really convincing.

My reason for thinking you were scum wasn't bad you are just being bad oneg if you are town.

Also I don't think a choco fid and Milo team makes a lot of sense meh

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 09 2015 15:58 GMT

#1577

Everyone busses to an extent. But oneg doesn't bus needlessly usually

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 09 2015 19:57 GMT

#1603

I guess you better come up with a better world milo, another solution explain yoru reads etc... you know try to play mafia?

Also I've read VE several times in my filter I believe, most of htem was that he was just playing pretty towny to me.

Also why is being wrong so much indicative of alignment? (I'll give you a hint its not btw)

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 09 2015 20:00 GMT

#1605

Why?

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 09 2015 20:05 GMT

#1609

Tahts not alignment indicative at all chocolate. People are wrong all the time, sometimes people are wrong all game and they are town. Sometimes scum are right all game.

It happens, but saying someone is scum because they have been wrong to often isn't...the best way to go about things. there has to be more to it than that.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 09 2015 20:12 GMT

#1613

But you aren't explaining anything milo at all, you don't explain your scum reads you are just putting random teams up without pushing ANYONE.

@Chocolate, show me examples of attacking/chain saw defending then.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 10 2015 00:15 GMT

#1638

Firstly rit reads me the best in the game. He read me as probably town XD. To bad nobody will believe him.

Secondly I was never on chocolate d1 to bus him. I believe I only voted once d1 and that was on ks. I did say bh I,believe that I didn't like chocolate but I only pushed nhm, and kick I believe d1.

Also feels like shennanies on me will happen.