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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:23 GMT
#1359
@y0su: you have super and prp as scum, me and tick as town. do you think 2 mafia would consolidate on the 2ndary wagon? why?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:25 GMT
#1361
btw i found out damdred's perfect read on me just now. i feel like now i will be able to fix it....it was so simple it pisses me off. you just have to count the question marks in my filter lol. am mad.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:27 GMT
#1362
On May 07 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote:
i guess to try and summarize in a small amount of text why shining could be mafia instead of y0su. it has to do with always being behind in the thread, summary information, only really doing shit when pinged out, and the like.


This was always going to happen, since D1 fell on my weekend. But this is misinformation now.

I'm here. I'm not behind in the thread. I've referenced recent interactions. I'm interacting. I'm not just summarizing, I've pulled examples from your filter. And yes, I was pinged out by everyone. Last night, yesterday afternoon, etc. So anything I do after that is doing it after being pinged out, regardless of whether I was going to or not. How is that alignment indicative?


because as scum the natural tendency of players is to look for their name in the thread and be more passive when they aren't being talked about. very few scum are capable of playing from the front and succeeding. people who don't do shit until pinged out tend to be scum indicative.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:29 GMT
#1364
On May 07 2015 07:28 prplhz wrote:
hey guys i'm reading up now anything i should pay attention to?


you role or mafia?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:42 GMT
#1371
On May 07 2015 07:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote:
On May 07 2015 07:18 The Shining wrote:
On May 07 2015 07:12 ritoky wrote:
@hts: don't understand the relevancy of your question. there's a lot of game, if your primary reason is tone at this point, read is pretty meh.

The way I read it, you're scumming her for her tone shift(tone reasoning), then criticizing the Superbia because of tone.

So when is it acceptable and when isn't it? You got at me for inconsistencies in my reads(towning A for doing xyz but not B, who also did xyz). What I see here is you scumming for xyz, then criticizing the Superbia train for xyz.


i had a small scum read on her for it that i was intentionally blowing out of proportion to try and get a 2nd wagon for vote info. it mildly worked. in reality it was a small scum read. and yes i think by day 2 if you start your superbia is mafia reads with "he sounds off" and people really key in on that. it is a meh read that is probably bad.


So it's acceptable when you do it to make a read more serious than it is for info purposes but it's not acceptable when someone is using it, amongst other things, to make a case?


it's acceptable as an accoutrement to a case, but not as a keystone. also day 1 and day 2 reads should be quite different.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:45 GMT
#1372
On May 07 2015 07:38 y0su wrote:
I don't really follow what my reads on you, tt, prp and super have to do with the overall question, I assume you're talking about d1 + Show Spoiler +

FINAL VOTE COUNT:


scott31337 (8) : -Celestial-, sicklucker, disformation, Half the Sky, y0su, FecalFeast, The Shining, Stutters695
Half the Sky (3) : Superbia (X), ritoky, prplhz, Superbia
disformation (1) : scott31337
prplhz (1) : Tictock
-Celestial- (0) : Superbia (X)
sicklucker (0) : The Shining (X), scott31337 (X), Superbia (X)

I don't see any reason that scum wouldn't want to disassociate from a ML. In terms of where they'd go, I think it would be easier to jump on another wagon than start their own.


in a 9-3-1 vote, 2 mafia are very unlikely to be in the 3 is my point. like statistically improbable. i don't find your reads compelling enough for me to go against stats.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:50 GMT
#1374
am gone until later. cross your fingers for no more preg complications.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 17:03 GMT
#1474
busy irl. prp is not blue, if he was blue he would have claimed yesterday; waited until near deadline out of desperation.

##vote: prp
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 23:13 GMT
#1607
thanks for claiming my role for me disform, you don't have to cover for me any more; it was pretty obvious i was trying to bait prp into claiming my role with the role or mafia read so i could cc him. you don't gotta keep it up anymore.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 23:18 GMT
#1612
On May 08 2015 02:32 y0su wrote:
This was (and still is) @ritoky
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 07:50 y0su wrote:
I really don't like stats that are pulled out of your ass. Do you have some further explanation on why that would be?
I've also said that I'm not doing reads by association - I can't place 2 votes at a time anyway.

Could you explain what was the significance of pointing out my TR on you and TT in relation to the voting?



i am very into vote logic and statistics. i keep a spreadsheet over all mafia games on played that keeps a lot of running statistics. if i cite them it is from my spreadsheet.

basically the likelihood that a 2nd mafia is outside of the day 1 lynch vote is very low, which would mean me, TT, and superbia are likely all town. the point i was making is you scum read 2 of the 4 and town read 2 of the 4; it is more likely 3 are town and 1 is mafia. from a numbers pov.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 23:20 GMT
#1614
for example, as town i vote on the day 1 lynch 12% of the time, whereas as mafia i vote on the day 1 lynch 62.3% of the time

random shit like that i keep track of.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 23:24 GMT
#1616
dis was just covering for me
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 23:26 GMT
#1619
On May 08 2015 08:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 08:18 ritoky wrote:
basically the likelihood that a 2nd mafia is outside of the day 1 lynch vote is very low, which would mean me, TT, and superbia are likely all town. the point i was making is you scum read 2 of the 4 and town read 2 of the 4; it is more likely 3 are town and 1 is mafia. from a numbers pov.


Tictock is an isolated vote, obviously we know he's most likely not scum here. But in other games, stats aside how are you so sure that isolated votes AREN'T mafia?

I mean I hated the way you used it in Titanic, everyone knows VCA can be manipulated for an anti-town agenda and you were SK. Just saying. I'm talking in general btw, not necessarily this game, this game I'm sure you're town.


i guess moreso i am saying: i don't want to lynch TT tmrw as of right now. maybe will reconsider later in the game, but i will die tonight so meh i don't have to.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 23:34 GMT
#1625
On May 08 2015 08:31 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 08:24 ritoky wrote:
dis was just covering for me


What is this even


exactly what it says
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 23:44 GMT
#1628
what, i was obviously trying to bait him into claiming and prepared to cc:

On May 07 2015 03:00 ritoky wrote:
prp is a role or mafia, take that 1 to the bank. had that read since like his 3rd or 4th post. waiting on his claim.


On May 07 2015 06:42 ritoky wrote:
unless prp comes in and claims a role and doesn't get cc'd. then i have to reconsider. i mean..i am probably lynching him unless he claims/


i am glad someone cc'd for me, but i mean i think i have been too obvious up until now so letting disform die for me is a waste

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 02:20 GMT
#1802
I cc'd dis to try to eat a bullet for the doc and cause confusion abt who the mafia should shoot

I am abt to get an appendectomy in 30 mins so if hosts want to sub me that is fine but I will be highly limited for 24 hrs
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 02:24 GMT
#1803
It's a classic robik vt play
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:39 GMT
#1824
Read some of hts whining about my alignment. I am pretty much confirmed town. She was whining about my read on her but neglected the post where I said I intentionally blew the read out of proportion to create an alternative wagon. She also neglects the part where I was one of the only people pushing on stutters all game and where I bullied pro into a claim. He'll even the play I made during the night phase was 100% but indicative. Not to even bring up how i am a mason with the vig.

Plus nothing I have done fits my scum meta. Go grab my self meta post and check for yourself.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:40 GMT
#1826
Stupid auto correct on phone
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:45 GMT
#1828
Italics was "hell the play I made during the night was 100% vt indicative" but auto correct
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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