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On May 11 2015 03:06 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 02:16 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Those of you scumreading y0su, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this latest exchange.
Newb town? Or newb scum?
I need to check into ritoky - note to self... I honestly think he is a newb who hasn't been able to fully keep up with the thread and you just bullied him into a direction. That's what that felt like. I actually find this post pretty hilarious. Earlier you said I was scum for not following through on people. y0su is my top scumread (whether you agree with it or not is a separate issue) and I'm attempting to flesh out information to ensure he's not a newbie town playing suboptimally. I'm pointing out flaws in his logic and you are calling it bullying? He already had a direction on me and I explained the flaws in it. I also love how you use a tonal argument to infer scum on me. Remember how you said it was a problem using it against Superbia? *yawn* Double standards aren't doing you any favours right now.
? you asked for opinions on the exchange and i gave you one. i think it's pretty clear you just browbeat the guy.
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On May 11 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:Superbia, y0su and tictock are obv newbies but the other two - + Show Spoiler [ritoky] ++ Show Spoiler [sicklucker] +I need to also meta ritoky and follow through on him to be absolutely sure he's scum as I've yet to play a game with him when he's town. I have to afk again, but I'll post final judgement before EoD.
to be fair, that list doesn't have like my past 4 mafia games cuz i am on a 6 game win strk as mafia. ezgame-ezlyfe.
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On May 11 2015 03:12 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky what are your thoughts? Will be you be mad if we lynch you?
if lynching me makes the game more solveable, then i don't mind.
my problem is really HtS. i am not sold on her as town like everyone else, and if we lynch me, then you die; i don't feel like the people remaining will sufficiently stand up to her and she will just get her way. that is a terrifying scenario for me. so if i can get her as a 95% town read then sure, we can PoE lynch me.
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On May 11 2015 03:14 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:12 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 03:06 Half the Sky wrote:On May 11 2015 02:16 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Those of you scumreading y0su, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this latest exchange.
Newb town? Or newb scum?
I need to check into ritoky - note to self... I honestly think he is a newb who hasn't been able to fully keep up with the thread and you just bullied him into a direction. That's what that felt like. I actually find this post pretty hilarious. Earlier you said I was scum for not following through on people. y0su is my top scumread (whether you agree with it or not is a separate issue) and I'm attempting to flesh out information to ensure he's not a newbie town playing suboptimally. I'm pointing out flaws in his logic and you are calling it bullying? He already had a direction on me and I explained the flaws in it. I also love how you use a tonal argument to infer scum on me. Remember how you said it was a problem using it against Superbia? *yawn* Double standards aren't doing you any favours right now. ? you asked for opinions on the exchange and i gave you one. i think it's pretty clear you just browbeat the guy. I didn't have a problem with the fact you gave an opinion. I have a problem with how you stated it based on your standards for scumreading people earlier in the game. Those standards of yours are changing through out the game. Why? That is what I am challenging.
What standards? I said you bullied him into siding with you, that has nothing to do with tone. You literally just browbeat him with walls of text until he acquiesced.
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On May 11 2015 03:18 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:11 ritoky wrote:
i love these scum cases on me, they list a bunch of stuff and i say to myself "wow that's town" If you think that's townplay and you actually are town you're a horrible judge of townplay. Then again we already know that since you were reading prpl so hard as town despite him doing jack all.
When someone posts the post: "fuck you, i am not posting a lot this game" this directly translates to: "hi everyone, i am a role or mafia". on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role. i am trying to teach you how to town.
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On May 11 2015 03:23 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:17 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 03:14 Half the Sky wrote:On May 11 2015 03:12 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 03:06 Half the Sky wrote:On May 11 2015 02:16 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Those of you scumreading y0su, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this latest exchange.
Newb town? Or newb scum?
I need to check into ritoky - note to self... I honestly think he is a newb who hasn't been able to fully keep up with the thread and you just bullied him into a direction. That's what that felt like. I actually find this post pretty hilarious. Earlier you said I was scum for not following through on people. y0su is my top scumread (whether you agree with it or not is a separate issue) and I'm attempting to flesh out information to ensure he's not a newbie town playing suboptimally. I'm pointing out flaws in his logic and you are calling it bullying? He already had a direction on me and I explained the flaws in it. I also love how you use a tonal argument to infer scum on me. Remember how you said it was a problem using it against Superbia? *yawn* Double standards aren't doing you any favours right now. ? you asked for opinions on the exchange and i gave you one. i think it's pretty clear you just browbeat the guy. I didn't have a problem with the fact you gave an opinion. I have a problem with how you stated it based on your standards for scumreading people earlier in the game. Those standards of yours are changing through out the game. Why? That is what I am challenging. What standards? I said you bullied him into siding with you, that has nothing to do with tone. You literally just browbeat him with walls of text until he acquiesced. Yawn. Standards being the lack of followthrough and the tonal read, this is about the third time or even more than that tone has come up. Also your responses show you aren't critically looking at why he changed direction. Nor did you appear to even analyse my walls of text (other than saying it was walls of text).
it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point. i didn't find anything you said compelling in the slightest. i just felt like you spammed him until he agreed. maybe i am wrong and shit you wrote makes a whole ton of sense and i am out of the loop this game. but it didn't rustle my jimmies in the slightest.
? where is this supposed tonal read? i think you misunderstand what bullying a newb is if you think it is a tonal read.
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On May 11 2015 03:26 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:19 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 03:18 -Celestial- wrote:On May 11 2015 03:11 ritoky wrote:
i love these scum cases on me, they list a bunch of stuff and i say to myself "wow that's town" If you think that's townplay and you actually are town you're a horrible judge of townplay. Then again we already know that since you were reading prpl so hard as town despite him doing jack all. When someone posts the post: "fuck you, i am not posting a lot this game" this directly translates to: "hi everyone, i am a role or mafia". on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role. i am trying to teach you how to town. And your response was to unnecessarily call for him to claim it when he was already under heavy pressure anyway; simply so you could claim some credit for yourself despite doing nothing. Bollocks, total bollocks. I don't need teaching by an incompetent player like yourself.
#1) i have the longest active winning streak as mafia on TL, so uh, gl with that incompetency argument getting you anywhere.
#2) you have blinders on: "on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role."
#3) the forcing him to claim came on day 2 in which i was going to CC him as VT, he claimed when i wasn't here and i didn't get the chance, oh well.
sorry bro, you in the tunnel on some bad juice. i think you're town though.
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On May 11 2015 03:30 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:28 ritoky wrote:
it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point She was explaining the term WIFOM. Which was highly relevant. The fact that you're misrepresenting this makes it even more likely that you're scum.
yes, that is low content. speaking generally is low content, whereas speaking specifically is content. man you are really pissed about something, i hope it gets dealt with so you can be happier.
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starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me:
On May 11 2015 03:15 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:12 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky what are your thoughts? Will be you be mad if we lynch you? if lynching me makes the game more solveable, then i don't mind. my problem is really HtS. i am not sold on her as town like everyone else, and if we lynch me, then you die; i don't feel like the people remaining will sufficiently stand up to her and she will just get her way. that is a terrifying scenario for me. so if i can get her as a 95% town read then sure, we can PoE lynch me.
you never make this post as mafia. can someone give me an expansive and convincing town read on HtS. If someone does that I will volunteer to be lynched.
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On May 11 2015 03:35 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:30 -Celestial- wrote:On May 11 2015 03:28 ritoky wrote:
it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point She was explaining the term WIFOM. Which was highly relevant. The fact that you're misrepresenting this makes it even more likely that you're scum. I'm seeing similar jumps/misrepresentations in logic as he's making when he was serial killer in Titanic. Whoop-de-doo ritoky - the princess bride reference was all in reference to WIFOM which directly influenced y0su's read on me. My purpose was to flesh out newb town or newb scum from that. I've resolved the WIFOM argument but I've not resolved the parroting argument - he's sheeping tictock on the sicklucker read. There was absolute purpose in that, and again shows you're not thinking critically or taking it out of context. Yawn.
yes but you don't ever address why i am not reading y0su mafia which i think i have stated 3 or 4 times. why would a newb full scum read 1 of his partners and null read the other? that doesn't seem likely.
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On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
As for being pissed, it'll get dealt with when you stop insulting me and get lynched and never bother me again.
I haven't insulted you once. I have insulted your play though.
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On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
1. "As mafia" means dick all. Your town play here is horrible. Fact. You've done dick all to help us this game, instead spending most of it setting yourself up to claim credit on stuff people were already doing and yelling "I'm town" at every opportunity. None of what you've done is pro-town, in fact you've actively tried to confuse and misrepresent.
Thanks for confirming me bro!
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On May 11 2015 03:43 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:35 ritoky wrote:
starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me: You are literally the only person in this entire game saying everything you are doing is "obvious town". You are also the only person in this entire game who has consistently read you, ritoky, as town. And you've been incredibly vocal about that. Either you're a HORRIBLE town player with an ego that makes you think you're amazing or you're scum.
On May 11 2015 02:54 Superbia wrote:
Scratch ritoky off the lynch list folks.
/destroyed
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On May 11 2015 03:44 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:42 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
As for being pissed, it'll get dealt with when you stop insulting me and get lynched and never bother me again. I haven't insulted you once. I have insulted your play though. You have. Get out. Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:42 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
1. "As mafia" means dick all. Your town play here is horrible. Fact. You've done dick all to help us this game, instead spending most of it setting yourself up to claim credit on stuff people were already doing and yelling "I'm town" at every opportunity. None of what you've done is pro-town, in fact you've actively tried to confuse and misrepresent.
Thanks for confirming me bro! Not confirming you, idiot. Get out.
I feel like I should parrot your ad hominem comment from earlier in response to this, and threaten reports like you did. But I have thicker skin and I don't mind. You can insult me all you want, your anger won't make me any less town. You're conf biasing so hard it makes me laugh.
And yes you confirmed me. "Your town play here is horrible" implies you know that I am town. But that's technicalities, you're not typing from your head anymore.
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On May 11 2015 03:44 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:44 ritoky wrote:On May 11 2015 03:43 -Celestial- wrote:On May 11 2015 03:35 ritoky wrote:
starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me: You are literally the only person in this entire game saying everything you are doing is "obvious town". You are also the only person in this entire game who has consistently read you, ritoky, as town. And you've been incredibly vocal about that. Either you're a HORRIBLE town player with an ego that makes you think you're amazing or you're scum. On May 11 2015 02:54 Superbia wrote:
Scratch ritoky off the lynch list folks. /destroyed Before I cased you. And with no evidence. Sure, bro. Get out.
It's okay to be wrong, I can hug it out.
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On May 11 2015 03:47 Superbia wrote:
It's y0su. Final answer.
is hts for sure town?
like FOR SURE?
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On May 11 2015 03:47 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 03:35 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm seeing similar jumps/misrepresentations in logic as he's making when he was serial killer in Titanic. To be honest that crap is throughout his entire filter. I couldn't believe the amount he'd gotten away with after actually looking through it. Either he's totally incompetent or he's scum.
You will see what you want to see when you already have the conclusion in your head.
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well i probably would have bussed my team harder, particularly prp. i woulda led the lynch on him. then i would probably have a definite target and hedge between my target and the other main target a bit, then i would ultimately vote on the target that would paint me in the best light and incriminate the people who will be in endgame if i make it there.
i would definitely not antagonize a guy who is most probably town ;P
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naw superbia you have a good read on me. not damdred level, but you died in down under cuz your read on me was too good and every1 else's was too bad.
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town lynched you at the behest of mafia and cuz you called me scum when no1 else did. :D
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