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indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 15:18 GMT
#5748
On May 06 2015 00:15 Damdred wrote:
I think someone asked me why breshke is so high up, I think its very likely Jean checked him. And his play while uninspiring I don't see a lot of scum motivation in it at this point

What scum motivation do you need to not do anything when your obvious buddies are getting lynched??? Like I said i really really doubt scum do not have check altering powers. None flipped so far. Don't base your read completely on this potential check.

Whatever, I don't think I will push strongly for a lynch today so do what you want in that regard.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 15:31 GMT
#5750
Stutters playing his other game and not this one is noted.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:06 GMT
#5757
On May 06 2015 01:05 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 22:59 indignant wrote:
On May 05 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote:
This D1 vote situation still slightly points to Yamato being town :/ There's already 3 confirmed scum who voted for Yamato during the day. No scum has been shown to vote for sandroba yet, however.

On April 28 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant
yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert
Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean
Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast
Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandroba
rsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre
Sepulchre (0): rsoultin
LightningStrike (0): Breshke
Vivax (0): Inspector Javert
marvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, Koshi
Koshi (0): Holyflare
sicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
Xatalos (0): Koshi

Not voted (2): rygart, Damdred,

Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:


I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore.
So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw.

Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know.
So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro.
So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred.

sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant
yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert
Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean
Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast
Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandroba
rsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre
Sepulchre (0): rsoultin
LightningStrike (0): Breshke
Vivax (0): Inspector Javert
marvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, Koshi
Koshi (0): Holyflare
sicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
Xatalos (0): Koshi

Not voted (2): rygart, Damdred


That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way.

Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game.
Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort.
Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though.
LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him.

So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon?

Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum.
SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me.
Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too.
Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops.
Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke.

So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF.
The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today.


I mostly agree. Good point that Stutters play was really scum-favored since Sep was town (and HF probably still is lol).

I'd point out that Marv was a parity cop - he couldn't have had any results in time before he died I think.

Yes, he could. Read his role. And I could be convinced to lynch stutters.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:10 GMT
#5761
On May 06 2015 01:08 Xatalos wrote:
Oh damn I misread Marv's role all this time. Did you have some idea who he compared?

Like I said my guess would be damdred but that is really just a feeling. I do not have good evidence for this nor did I really look for it tbh.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:13 GMT
#5765
On May 06 2015 01:10 Inspector Javert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 01:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 06 2015 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I willing to get lynched if it means moving the game forward because right now I clueless on bats alignment but I truely think that stutters is scum.

Like he could be 3rd party or just playing a bad town game and I know done this type of shit on me in Horns at End Game where he just votes me and me, marv, and breshke voted the last scum and forced them to concede (rsoultin).


Mafia. I'm suddenly extremely confident.

He rehashes what others say, does play by play commentary, offers relatively little original insight on meta. All scum LS. And he just martyred after a random vote. Town LS wouldn't just completely collapse under so little pressure. See his reaction to SL too.

Not bad.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:16 GMT
#5768
On May 06 2015 01:14 LightningStrike wrote:
What if I told you I was a Jester?

Is this a scumclaim? :p
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:18 GMT
#5770
On May 06 2015 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 01:16 indignant wrote:
On May 06 2015 01:14 LightningStrike wrote:
What if I told you I was a Jester?

Is this a scumclaim? :p

No this is what I might be http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester

Is this a hardclaim?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:23 GMT
#5775
On May 06 2015 01:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 01:18 indignant wrote:
On May 06 2015 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 06 2015 01:16 indignant wrote:
On May 06 2015 01:14 LightningStrike wrote:
What if I told you I was a Jester?

Is this a scumclaim? :p

No this is what I might be http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester

Is this a hardclaim?

No I was trying to see reactions because it been forever since I seen jesters o.o

Then I don't get what kind of reaction you would expect.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:25 GMT
#5777
On May 06 2015 01:23 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 23:44 indignant wrote:
On May 05 2015 23:40 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I already have, I blocked Yamato the kps went through anyway, a 6 man team is kinda doubtful so id rather just lynch another scummy person and see what shinings check tells us

That's not a reason. Then we can also lynch Obi or Chez or LS etc.
On May 05 2015 23:41 Inspector Javert wrote:
I cant think of a single reason I could be mafia. Especially after the commentator thing.

Come on - let's be real. The commentator thing is not alignment indicative in the slightest.


I think its pretty scummy. You basicly get to leave a message as the mod. Thats the scummiest ability ive ever heard and i think we should lynch him let me reread that message

I think you misunderstand the ability. Noone would ever expect that to be a mod announcememt. There have been plenty of town roles with abilities like that in themed games.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:30 GMT
#5782
On May 05 2015 07:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Commentator Announcement

Batsnacks is the greatest! All hail Batsnacks!


indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:31 GMT
#5783
On May 06 2015 01:26 sicklucker wrote:
Do you guys not that that a role which lets you impersinate the mod for one post can only be a scum ability?

It does not impersonate the mod and like I said it has been a town ability before.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 16:49 GMT
#5787
On May 06 2015 01:44 Chezinu wrote:
indignant if you can talk.

How can you hurt people with 1 KP damage?

I don't know? Did you get roleblocked night 2?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 17:10 GMT
#5788
Obi, did you move anyone last night?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 17:11 GMT
#5790
How come damdred is above me in the playerlist?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 17:14 GMT
#5792
So you didn't do anything? Why?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 17:16 GMT
#5794
On May 06 2015 02:15 Inspector Javert wrote:
Lol I lied screw work

jat the fight is in <4 hours who's fighting?

No idea. Who should be?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 17:24 GMT
#5798
On May 06 2015 02:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 02:14 indignant wrote:
So you didn't do anything? Why?


I didn't really feel like it.

But you are top of the list now. Isn't this very bad considering your ability?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 17:25 GMT
#5799
I mean why did you move yourself up there in the first place?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 17:30 GMT
#5803
On May 06 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:
I really feel like rage quitting this game so you guys can move forward......

That's the last thing town needs if you are town.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 17:35 GMT
#5806
How do you know those 2 people aren't mafia? Since when are 2 votes enough to kill someone?
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