[T] Hajime no Ippo Maifa - Page 4

On April 27 2015 18:12 marvellosity wrote:
I do wish we'd got a bit more from sand by now.

rsou, all your posts are annoying.

On April 27 2015 18:46 Jean Valjean wrote:
However, I do not know, and hence I'm not even sure I should be posting this, whether he intended to follow up today. I just felt like I had to say something if only for my own sake of participating in the game.

On April 27 2015 19:29 Jean Valjean wrote:
I don't believe there is ever such a thing as a concrete mafia read. In fact if you allow yourself to remove any hint of doubt or skepticism about your own thoughts, you're setting yourself up to fail.

I believe I had a significant conclusion, and I believe it also helps the rest of the players understand my motives better even if my conclusion isn't any kind of a solid read one direction or the other. It's much more important that everyone understands why I think what I think, rather than just what I think. I tried as best as I can to explain my thought process in forming this read. I think a conclusion like this is just as valuable to town as a strong town lean or strong scum lean.

I think I just found sandroba, and the reaction he created in the game, interesting.

But I can throw down much more concrete reads too, it's just that they're less interesting. Here is one that I feel okay about. I think Xatalos is town. I've thought he was town from the moment he called sandroba out for his opening posts because I just don't think mafia would target posts that almost specifically are made to look good, irrelevant of what I thought of sandroba at the time.

Then I quickly read through his filter in the past 20 minutes, and although it wasn't a deep dive, I believe most of his posts don't look forced or deceptive. I don't trust tonal reads as much as I do more concrete things, but I believe they are a helpful tool, and in this case I sort of confirmed my belief that Xata is unlikely to be mafia this game.

So yeah, I don't see myself supporting a lynch against him today.

On April 27 2015 19:39 Jean Valjean wrote:


It is a play on a common role in mafia games, as well as a reference to the great work from which my name derives.



I understand why you feel this way. But I think it's much more constructive for me to simply progress through the game taking whichever direction I feel like taking, instead of forcing myself to read things I do not believe I'm ready to tackle yet. If nothing else, this townread on Xata, despite not being a lynch candidate, helps people understand my motives. In addition should I not reach any kind of a strong conclusion about someone's alignment being mafia today, I might default back to simply voting alongside the people I think are town, and now that I've explained in short why I trust Xata, I might choose to vote with him.

But we're far away from that part of the day and I have more things I want to read and share before the day is over.

On April 27 2015 20:18 Inspector Javert wrote:
2/3 are mafia probably: SL, marv, xata

I think SL/marv is the most likely pair. LS and sandroba have each said at least 1 thing I thought made them town.

On April 27 2015 20:28 Inspector Javert wrote:


Maybe indignant is mafia too. Mafia likes to ad hom.

On April 27 2015 21:27 Xatalos wrote:


You mean marv told him to backtrack in scumQT? Haha

I somehow doubt marv would approve of the plan in the first place, though. Or that SL would just go at marv without saying anything in advance.

And in any case we should lynch SL first then.

On April 27 2015 21:55 Xatalos wrote:


Well this is going to be an easy game if the scum hate each other :D

On April 27 2015 21:48 Stutters695 wrote:
Can someone explain wtf is going on with Chez? Is that a serious check?

On April 27 2015 21:59 Damdred wrote:
I fell asleep last night before I could get a lot of tillers done haha.

Getting to work now should have something concrete in a bit.

On April 27 2015 22:25 Koshi wrote:

Eden stop being 100% terrible and lynch marv.

On April 27 2015 22:44 Damdred wrote:


That wasn't towards you XD

On April 27 2015 23:02 Holyflare wrote:
sandroba/vivax/yamato/rsoul

would lynch any of these people today

On April 27 2015 23:02 marvellosity wrote:

Are you mafia, Damdred?

On April 27 2015 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
We could p-lynch Koshi to improve the thread skill level by infinity percent?

who knows, maybe he's sneaky mafia playing retarded meta very well

On April 27 2015 23:20 marvellosity wrote:

of course it's possible

i wouldn't say it otherwise

On April 27 2015 23:21 marvellosity wrote:

Let's make sure we hold yamato to this, shall we?

On April 27 2015 23:27 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm down, but why Yamato specifically over the other like 6 people who have said similar things?