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indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 10:05 GMT
#807
On April 27 2015 18:12 marvellosity wrote:
I do wish we'd got a bit more from sand by now.

rsou, all your posts are annoying.

Agreed. Sandro might have contributed more than rsoultin despite the respective filter size btw.

CHEZINU! What is you name? And why do you trust the people that train in you?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 10:12 GMT
#809
On April 27 2015 18:46 Jean Valjean wrote:
However, I do not know, and hence I'm not even sure I should be posting this, whether he intended to follow up today. I just felt like I had to say something if only for my own sake of participating in the game.

My guess.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 10:14 GMT
#811
It seems he doesn't have any.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 10:33 GMT
#816
On April 27 2015 19:29 Jean Valjean wrote:
I don't believe there is ever such a thing as a concrete mafia read. In fact if you allow yourself to remove any hint of doubt or skepticism about your own thoughts, you're setting yourself up to fail.

I believe I had a significant conclusion, and I believe it also helps the rest of the players understand my motives better even if my conclusion isn't any kind of a solid read one direction or the other. It's much more important that everyone understands why I think what I think, rather than just what I think. I tried as best as I can to explain my thought process in forming this read. I think a conclusion like this is just as valuable to town as a strong town lean or strong scum lean.

I think I just found sandroba, and the reaction he created in the game, interesting.

But I can throw down much more concrete reads too, it's just that they're less interesting. Here is one that I feel okay about. I think Xatalos is town. I've thought he was town from the moment he called sandroba out for his opening posts because I just don't think mafia would target posts that almost specifically are made to look good, irrelevant of what I thought of sandroba at the time.

Then I quickly read through his filter in the past 20 minutes, and although it wasn't a deep dive, I believe most of his posts don't look forced or deceptive. I don't trust tonal reads as much as I do more concrete things, but I believe they are a helpful tool, and in this case I sort of confirmed my belief that Xata is unlikely to be mafia this game.

So yeah, I don't see myself supporting a lynch against him today.

That's cool and all. But Xatalos wasn't really a lynch target anyways. Don't get me wrong - every read you give will be appreciated but reads on actual lynch candidates are more important. Like SL or Breshke for example.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 10:35 GMT
#817
I also have no idea why mafia wouldn't call out posts like sandrobas unless sandroba is mafia and you thought that would be irrelevant.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 10:44 GMT
#822
On April 27 2015 19:39 Jean Valjean wrote:
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On April 27 2015 19:27 Breshke wrote:
I don't get why jean started the post with you should listen to me then went onto say that sandroba might probably maybe idk not sure be mafia


It is a play on a common role in mafia games, as well as a reference to the great work from which my name derives.

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On April 27 2015 19:33 indignant wrote:
On April 27 2015 19:29 Jean Valjean wrote:
I don't believe there is ever such a thing as a concrete mafia read. In fact if you allow yourself to remove any hint of doubt or skepticism about your own thoughts, you're setting yourself up to fail.

I believe I had a significant conclusion, and I believe it also helps the rest of the players understand my motives better even if my conclusion isn't any kind of a solid read one direction or the other. It's much more important that everyone understands why I think what I think, rather than just what I think. I tried as best as I can to explain my thought process in forming this read. I think a conclusion like this is just as valuable to town as a strong town lean or strong scum lean.

I think I just found sandroba, and the reaction he created in the game, interesting.

But I can throw down much more concrete reads too, it's just that they're less interesting. Here is one that I feel okay about. I think Xatalos is town. I've thought he was town from the moment he called sandroba out for his opening posts because I just don't think mafia would target posts that almost specifically are made to look good, irrelevant of what I thought of sandroba at the time.

Then I quickly read through his filter in the past 20 minutes, and although it wasn't a deep dive, I believe most of his posts don't look forced or deceptive. I don't trust tonal reads as much as I do more concrete things, but I believe they are a helpful tool, and in this case I sort of confirmed my belief that Xata is unlikely to be mafia this game.

So yeah, I don't see myself supporting a lynch against him today.

That's cool and all. But Xatalos wasn't really a lynch target anyways. Don't get me wrong - every read you give will be appreciated but reads on actual lynch candidates are more important. Like SL or Breshke for example.


I understand why you feel this way. But I think it's much more constructive for me to simply progress through the game taking whichever direction I feel like taking, instead of forcing myself to read things I do not believe I'm ready to tackle yet. If nothing else, this townread on Xata, despite not being a lynch candidate, helps people understand my motives. In addition should I not reach any kind of a strong conclusion about someone's alignment being mafia today, I might default back to simply voting alongside the people I think are town, and now that I've explained in short why I trust Xata, I might choose to vote with him.

But we're far away from that part of the day and I have more things I want to read and share before the day is over.

Fine, play your way. But then make sure the bolded is really true and you don't just give 1 or 2 universal townreads.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 11:26 GMT
#830
On April 27 2015 20:18 Inspector Javert wrote:
2/3 are mafia probably: SL, marv, xata

I think SL/marv is the most likely pair. LS and sandroba have each said at least 1 thing I thought made them town.

lol, what a clown
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 11:30 GMT
#833
On April 27 2015 20:28 Inspector Javert wrote:
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On April 27 2015 20:26 indignant wrote:
On April 27 2015 20:18 Inspector Javert wrote:
2/3 are mafia probably: SL, marv, xata

I think SL/marv is the most likely pair. LS and sandroba have each said at least 1 thing I thought made them town.

lol, what a clown


Maybe indignant is mafia too. Mafia likes to ad hom.

yeah yeah, sure.

Please enligthen me - how did you find out my 2 buddies? They did such a great job at distancing from each other yesterday. You must be some kind of town jesus.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 12:15 GMT
#843
A marv lynch is not happening today.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 12:30 GMT
#847
On April 27 2015 21:27 Xatalos wrote:
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On April 27 2015 21:19 Inspector Javert wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:13 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm.... That'd be quite a meta play. I remember marv saying that it's retarded to bus on D1.


SL started it, marv ended it.


You mean marv told him to backtrack in scumQT? Haha

I somehow doubt marv would approve of the plan in the first place, though. Or that SL would just go at marv without saying anything in advance.

And in any case we should lynch SL first then.

SL would absolutely do that. It is very likely that they would not get along at all if they were on the same scumteam. Still we aren't lynching marv so talking about him is a waste of time.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 13:04 GMT
#857
On April 27 2015 21:55 Xatalos wrote:
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On April 27 2015 21:30 indignant wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:27 Xatalos wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:19 Inspector Javert wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:13 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm.... That'd be quite a meta play. I remember marv saying that it's retarded to bus on D1.


SL started it, marv ended it.


You mean marv told him to backtrack in scumQT? Haha

I somehow doubt marv would approve of the plan in the first place, though. Or that SL would just go at marv without saying anything in advance.

And in any case we should lynch SL first then.

SL would absolutely do that. It is very likely that they would not get along at all if they were on the same scumteam. Still we aren't lynching marv so talking about him is a waste of time.


Well this is going to be an easy game if the scum hate each other :D

I don't think that would make the game any easier.
On April 27 2015 21:48 Stutters695 wrote:
Can someone explain wtf is going on with Chez? Is that a serious check?

Doubt it. Chez might be this gym thing but I guess he only knows who is part of the gym/training there and not their alignment. At least that's what I got out of it.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 13:05 GMT
#858
On April 27 2015 21:59 Damdred wrote:
I fell asleep last night before I could get a lot of tillers done haha.

Getting to work now should have something concrete in a bit.

Yes please. Your contributions so far have been far from inspiring.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 13:47 GMT
#871
On April 27 2015 22:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 21:30 indignant wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:27 Xatalos wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:19 Inspector Javert wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:13 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm.... That'd be quite a meta play. I remember marv saying that it's retarded to bus on D1.


SL started it, marv ended it.


You mean marv told him to backtrack in scumQT? Haha

I somehow doubt marv would approve of the plan in the first place, though. Or that SL would just go at marv without saying anything in advance.

And in any case we should lynch SL first then.

SL would absolutely do that. It is very likely that they would not get along at all if they were on the same scumteam. Still we aren't lynching marv so talking about him is a waste of time.

Eden stop being 100% terrible and lynch marv.

I would rather stay terrible and keep not lynching marv, thanks.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 13:49 GMT
#872
On April 27 2015 22:44 Damdred wrote:
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On April 27 2015 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 27 2015 22:20 Damdred wrote:
I don't think that disproves what I said however LS.

I might not actually put work in at this juncture honestly, when people are BM for no reason towards me I don't have to do jack shit.

Anyway, any direct questions ask away

I wasn't being bm I was just giving my opinion on something that happened in a past game :O


That wasn't towards you XD

Then who? Me? All I did was calling your stuff so far uninspiring which it is. That's a bad excuse for slacking off.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 14:17 GMT
#891
On April 27 2015 23:02 Holyflare wrote:
sandroba/vivax/yamato/rsoul

would lynch any of these people today

Not the worst lynch I ever saw.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 14:19 GMT
#892
On April 27 2015 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 21:58 Damdred wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:13 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm.... That'd be quite a meta play. I remember marv saying that it's retarded to bus on D1.


XD look at imperial mafia. He bussed ritoky from the very start lol

Are you mafia, Damdred?

Starting to think that this is very possible btw. all he did so far is giving out easy townreads with little explanation and now he is getting all emo over nothing. Both things he does as scum.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 14:21 GMT
#895
On April 27 2015 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
We could p-lynch Koshi to improve the thread skill level by infinity percent?

who knows, maybe he's sneaky mafia playing retarded meta very well

You know that he won't be able to keep this up as mafia. He will be painfully obvious later in the game. Not that I even think he looks that scummy. Just very Koshi.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 14:21 GMT
#896
On April 27 2015 23:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 23:19 indignant wrote:
On April 27 2015 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:58 Damdred wrote:
On April 27 2015 21:13 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm.... That'd be quite a meta play. I remember marv saying that it's retarded to bus on D1.


XD look at imperial mafia. He bussed ritoky from the very start lol

Are you mafia, Damdred?

Starting to think that this is very possible btw. all he did so far is giving out easy townreads with little explanation and now he is getting all emo over nothing. Both things he does as scum.

of course it's possible

i wouldn't say it otherwise

tedious
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 14:22 GMT
#899
On April 27 2015 23:21 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 26 2015 15:19 yamato77 wrote:
hello players of the game of mafia

I will invest more time into this game once things actually start rolling

my recent attempts at forcing early action have failed amazingly

the latter half of this cycle will be a better time for me to play anyway

see you all then.

Let's make sure we hold yamato to this, shall we?

I am down.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 27 2015 14:27 GMT
#903
On April 27 2015 23:27 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm down, but why Yamato specifically over the other like 6 people who have said similar things?

Can't kill em all!
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