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indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:40 GMT
#4614
On May 02 2015 23:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
Idk why RS is so defensive about being 3p.

idk what else to say about hf he helped the drive on sandrona and called out ff during the night with me. I guess 3p is possible but no way scum I think


i literally called vivax mafia all day 1 too

hence why all these accusations are so bad

Let's be real here for a second. If you start playing the game on a scumteam with Vivax and Sandroba you know immediately that you can't townread them ever and will probably have to bus them sooner rather than later.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:41 GMT
#4617
On May 02 2015 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 23:36 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
Idk why RS is so defensive about being 3p.

idk what else to say about hf he helped the drive on sandrona and called out ff during the night with me. I guess 3p is possible but no way scum I think


-shrugs-

i guess i don't find that highly compelling with generally lackluster play (for him) given how buss happy scum teams have been here lately. but i do tend to agree that 3p is more likely than scum in his case

i just don't trust him -_-

and it's more irritation than anything, damdy -_- that and if you think about it and you believe there are too many cop claims (which there are) and are trying to find someone fake-claiming through poe of course it's relevant that i'm a town cop -_- it's not being defensive, much as it may seem that way


let's use some logic so you can stop pushing this useless crap

all town cops so far had some kind of mechanic and limitation to use

every single claim has that but yours and yours is pretty op

find the outlier

Well, the limitation would be that she can only check gym members?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:42 GMT
#4621
On May 02 2015 23:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 23:40 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
Idk why RS is so defensive about being 3p.

idk what else to say about hf he helped the drive on sandrona and called out ff during the night with me. I guess 3p is possible but no way scum I think


i literally called vivax mafia all day 1 too

hence why all these accusations are so bad

Let's be real here for a second. If you start playing the game on a scumteam with Vivax and Sandroba you know immediately that you can't townread them ever and will probably have to bus them sooner rather than later.


yeh that's probably true but vivax was at least trying to play day 1? he tried to get a wagon going on me with koshi and sandroba

Koshi was honorary mafiateam member that's for sure.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:43 GMT
#4624
On May 02 2015 23:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 23:40 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
Idk why RS is so defensive about being 3p.

idk what else to say about hf he helped the drive on sandrona and called out ff during the night with me. I guess 3p is possible but no way scum I think


i literally called vivax mafia all day 1 too

hence why all these accusations are so bad

Let's be real here for a second. If you start playing the game on a scumteam with Vivax and Sandroba you know immediately that you can't townread them ever and will probably have to bus them sooner rather than later.


sandroba used to be good though from what I remember. I wonder when his play dropped in quality so much.

Afaik he was never good at playing scum.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:45 GMT
#4633
On May 02 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually that's better than letting Sepu fight.

Nevermind.

At what point will you start reading the game?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:47 GMT
#4637
On May 02 2015 23:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On May 02 2015 23:45 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually that's better than letting Sepu fight.

Nevermind.

At what point will you start reading the game?


I just woke up and I fucking forgot you asshole.

Your insults. They wound me.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:48 GMT
#4640
On May 02 2015 23:47 rsoultin wrote:
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On May 02 2015 23:41 Damdred wrote:
I'd rather keep ls out of the fight today, the likelihood of him and sando having basically the exact same power on the same scum team is unlikely to say the least. 3p maybe but we can sort that out another day


yeah, okay :/

there does seem to be something of a mirror effect or at least a counter to most of the powers we're seeing. not really convinced that's a good enough reason to townread him though, damdy (inb4 you say he could be 3p again)

also, devil's advocate bit, sandy clearly didn't have to steal the vote of someone who had voted with him the previous phase, so they're not completely identical at least in that sense

But still LS did not have to claim it, right? He could have just kept silent about it and used it when it matters. I don't really townread the guy but this should be enough to give you pause.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:50 GMT
#4645
On May 02 2015 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 23:48 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:47 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:41 Damdred wrote:
I'd rather keep ls out of the fight today, the likelihood of him and sando having basically the exact same power on the same scum team is unlikely to say the least. 3p maybe but we can sort that out another day


yeah, okay :/

there does seem to be something of a mirror effect or at least a counter to most of the powers we're seeing. not really convinced that's a good enough reason to townread him though, damdy (inb4 you say he could be 3p again)

also, devil's advocate bit, sandy clearly didn't have to steal the vote of someone who had voted with him the previous phase, so they're not completely identical at least in that sense

But still LS did not have to claim it, right? He could have just kept silent about it and used it when it matters. I don't really townread the guy but this should be enough to give you pause.


^ towny ls loves to claim under no pressure at all

Yes, that only strengthens the point though or are you saying scummy LS would do that too?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:51 GMT
#4646
On May 02 2015 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 02 2015 23:49 Xatalos wrote:
HF what's the reasoning for Chez/OWS over Javert btw?


no particular reason tbh, probably should put javert in

Don't think so. It's like marv said - if we go after Javert then we do it for pure policy reasons.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 14:56 GMT
#4653
On May 02 2015 23:48 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 23:47 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:41 Damdred wrote:
I'd rather keep ls out of the fight today, the likelihood of him and sando having basically the exact same power on the same scum team is unlikely to say the least. 3p maybe but we can sort that out another day


yeah, okay :/

there does seem to be something of a mirror effect or at least a counter to most of the powers we're seeing. not really convinced that's a good enough reason to townread him though, damdy (inb4 you say he could be 3p again)

also, devil's advocate bit, sandy clearly didn't have to steal the vote of someone who had voted with him the previous phase, so they're not completely identical at least in that sense

But still LS did not have to claim it, right? He could have just kept silent about it and used it when it matters. I don't really townread the guy but this should be enough to give you pause.

indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:00 GMT
#4655
Btw. how much damage did Vivax take so far? Does it even make sense to let the amateur fight happen apart from having bats confirm his role?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:01 GMT
#4657
On May 03 2015 00:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:50 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:48 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:47 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:41 Damdred wrote:
I'd rather keep ls out of the fight today, the likelihood of him and sando having basically the exact same power on the same scum team is unlikely to say the least. 3p maybe but we can sort that out another day


yeah, okay :/

there does seem to be something of a mirror effect or at least a counter to most of the powers we're seeing. not really convinced that's a good enough reason to townread him though, damdy (inb4 you say he could be 3p again)

also, devil's advocate bit, sandy clearly didn't have to steal the vote of someone who had voted with him the previous phase, so they're not completely identical at least in that sense

But still LS did not have to claim it, right? He could have just kept silent about it and used it when it matters. I don't really townread the guy but this should be enough to give you pause.


^ towny ls loves to claim under no pressure at all

Yes, that only strengthens the point though or are you saying scummy LS would do that too?


i'm strengthening the point

either way there's a substantial amount of people that are using their powers in an anti town way but claiming them, which is pretty meh because mafia are in dire straights right now with probably 3 mafia lynches straight so they have to actually claim to blend in eventually but the anti town use makes it pretty hard to town read them




like, it's not actually confirmed at all that bats power is making people fight and if it is we don't get to know about it in the thread since it didn't happen on day 2 with xata and marv which seems pretty suspicious, also, if vivax dies by lynch and he's in the amateur fight it's a great excuse to say "oh no my power didn't happen"

i think someone said it happens in the first 24 hours but batsnacks never says that is the case and actually says if they fight in the main fight they can't fight in amateurs which means they occur at the same time

Batsnacks was the one who said this silly. And the other fight didn't happen because marv was in the big fight according to his explanation.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:03 GMT
#4660
On May 03 2015 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
it's sepu that said he gets cop checks from fights right? tempted to do something around that

That's what I am thinking about. If Vivax doesn't die we are potentially wasting this.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:04 GMT
#4661
On May 03 2015 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 00:01 indignant wrote:
On May 03 2015 00:00 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:50 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:48 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:47 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:41 Damdred wrote:
I'd rather keep ls out of the fight today, the likelihood of him and sando having basically the exact same power on the same scum team is unlikely to say the least. 3p maybe but we can sort that out another day


yeah, okay :/

there does seem to be something of a mirror effect or at least a counter to most of the powers we're seeing. not really convinced that's a good enough reason to townread him though, damdy (inb4 you say he could be 3p again)

also, devil's advocate bit, sandy clearly didn't have to steal the vote of someone who had voted with him the previous phase, so they're not completely identical at least in that sense

But still LS did not have to claim it, right? He could have just kept silent about it and used it when it matters. I don't really townread the guy but this should be enough to give you pause.


^ towny ls loves to claim under no pressure at all

Yes, that only strengthens the point though or are you saying scummy LS would do that too?


i'm strengthening the point

either way there's a substantial amount of people that are using their powers in an anti town way but claiming them, which is pretty meh because mafia are in dire straights right now with probably 3 mafia lynches straight so they have to actually claim to blend in eventually but the anti town use makes it pretty hard to town read them




like, it's not actually confirmed at all that bats power is making people fight and if it is we don't get to know about it in the thread since it didn't happen on day 2 with xata and marv which seems pretty suspicious, also, if vivax dies by lynch and he's in the amateur fight it's a great excuse to say "oh no my power didn't happen"

i think someone said it happens in the first 24 hours but batsnacks never says that is the case and actually says if they fight in the main fight they can't fight in amateurs which means they occur at the same time

Batsnacks was the one who said this silly. And the other fight didn't happen because marv was in the big fight according to his explanation.


i just read his filter and don't see him ever saying this at all, it's impossible too since if it happens in the first 24 hours of the day then it's irrelevant if they are in the main fight since that is the last 24 hours of the day

Why? This is more a flavor thing than a mechanical thing I think.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:05 GMT
#4664
Btw.
On May 02 2015 07:36 Inspector Javert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 07:35 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 07:33 Inspector Javert wrote:
I just got clarification. If either one of my fighters is chosen for the main event (d2 it was marv) then the amateur fight does not happen.

So if vivax and/or sepu fight in the main event then they will NOT fight in the amateur fight.

Either way we will be lynching Vivax so putting him in a fight is a waste anyways.


sepu might KO him at the 24 hour mark so maybe we can save a cycle.

On May 02 2015 23:14 Inspector Javert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 23:14 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 22:59 indignant wrote:
The way we should do things in my opinion:

We let the amateur fight (Vivax vs. Sepulchre) happen and see what comes out of it.

If Vivax survives we just keep lynching him.

HF puts 2 different scummy people into the main fight. Like Chezinu and Obi or something. Maybe stutters but I am not so sold on him.


but what if it doesn't happen because we lynch vivax? :S seems like a good cover for obi tbh


the fight happens 24 hours before the lynch

indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:06 GMT
#4666
On May 03 2015 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 00:04 indignant wrote:
On May 03 2015 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
On May 03 2015 00:01 indignant wrote:
On May 03 2015 00:00 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:50 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:48 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 23:47 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

yeah, okay :/

there does seem to be something of a mirror effect or at least a counter to most of the powers we're seeing. not really convinced that's a good enough reason to townread him though, damdy (inb4 you say he could be 3p again)

also, devil's advocate bit, sandy clearly didn't have to steal the vote of someone who had voted with him the previous phase, so they're not completely identical at least in that sense

But still LS did not have to claim it, right? He could have just kept silent about it and used it when it matters. I don't really townread the guy but this should be enough to give you pause.


^ towny ls loves to claim under no pressure at all

Yes, that only strengthens the point though or are you saying scummy LS would do that too?


i'm strengthening the point

either way there's a substantial amount of people that are using their powers in an anti town way but claiming them, which is pretty meh because mafia are in dire straights right now with probably 3 mafia lynches straight so they have to actually claim to blend in eventually but the anti town use makes it pretty hard to town read them




like, it's not actually confirmed at all that bats power is making people fight and if it is we don't get to know about it in the thread since it didn't happen on day 2 with xata and marv which seems pretty suspicious, also, if vivax dies by lynch and he's in the amateur fight it's a great excuse to say "oh no my power didn't happen"

i think someone said it happens in the first 24 hours but batsnacks never says that is the case and actually says if they fight in the main fight they can't fight in amateurs which means they occur at the same time

Batsnacks was the one who said this silly. And the other fight didn't happen because marv was in the big fight according to his explanation.


i just read his filter and don't see him ever saying this at all, it's impossible too since if it happens in the first 24 hours of the day then it's irrelevant if they are in the main fight since that is the last 24 hours of the day

Why? This is more a flavor thing than a mechanical thing I think.


if his mechanic is "the amateur fight is in the first 24 hours of the day since i pick it at night" then how can hosts possibly know if people are in the main fight if i submit those names 24 hours into the day phase?

Because you have to submit until the 24 hours are over and the fight does not happen before that?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:08 GMT
#4671
On May 03 2015 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
but regardless it's scummy as shit that he's just doing his own thing and ignoring everything we say and trying to bypass all the mechanics we're trying to use

It is also batsnacks as shit though. He is the guy that just stubbornly votes whoever he feels like in LYLO and doesn't give a fuck about having to vote with the rest of town.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:10 GMT
#4676
On May 03 2015 00:09 Damdred wrote:
Btw still never answered why batsnacks had to visit xata n1.

Because apparently putting people into the amateur fight is a nightaction that comes with a visit.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:12 GMT
#4680
On May 03 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 00:08 indignant wrote:
On May 03 2015 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
but regardless it's scummy as shit that he's just doing his own thing and ignoring everything we say and trying to bypass all the mechanics we're trying to use

It is also batsnacks as shit though. He is the guy that just stubbornly votes whoever he feels like in LYLO and doesn't give a fuck about having to vote with the rest of town.


yeh but it's one thing to have his own opinion and stick to it stubbornly but it's an entirely another to know that there is a potential cop and ignore everything about it and put it in with the person we're lynching??

Not if stubbornly sticking to your opinion loses you the game 100 % of the time.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 15:15 GMT
#4683
On May 03 2015 00:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't want to fight Sepu. :<

Why? Scared of the 1 extra damage? OR scared of the check?
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