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indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:25 GMT
#4218
On May 02 2015 08:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 08:22 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 08:21 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
On May 02 2015 00:23 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 00:22 marvellosity wrote:
I think that brings me up to 2/3 winrate total

so can we not lose this game please

Hubris. Go. :p

Running out of people
On April 28 2015 07:09 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

sandroba (10): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, Jean Valjean, Damdred, indignant
yamato77 (8): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba (x2), Inspector Javert, Sepulchre
Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast
Breshke (1): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean
Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandroba
rsoultin (0): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre
Sepulchre (0): rsoultin
LightningStrike (0): Breshke
Vivax (0): Inspector Javert
marvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, Koshi
Koshi (0): Holyflare
sicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
Xatalos (0): Koshi

Not voted (1): rygart

Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:



updated the above (which already showed his checks) with more info

basically if anyone has good reasons for:

chezinu
batsnacks
sepulchre
obi

to be town then that should narrow things down quite a bit

That's basically the list I posted earlier without LS. Batsnacks might be town or at least I wouldn't kill him right now.
If you are looking for fighting people I would recommend obi and chez.


oh right yeh i forgot ls

Hello did you see a extra vote during the EoN vote count?

Yes, you also made damdred vote with you I think. This however confirms your role and not your alignment. For now I would put you in the same category as batsnacks though I guess.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:28 GMT
#4222
On May 02 2015 08:27 sicklucker wrote:
obis role specifly seems kind of fake esp since it might have been marv that moved the playerlist.

Also you expect to have a mafia that can move the playerlist and fuck with marv

Marvs role cannot change the playerlist.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:29 GMT
#4224
On May 02 2015 08:29 sicklucker wrote:
Like honestly we should have auto fuck this game. concede plz

They can't. There is confirmed 3p in this game.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:30 GMT
#4229
On May 02 2015 08:30 sicklucker wrote:
oh ok the roles were posted in the wrong ordder... What I said still adds up just replace the other dude with marv

No, it doesn't add up. The other dude just moved himself.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#4232
On May 02 2015 08:31 sicklucker wrote:
The point is 1 list changing ability for mafia and town

We know of at least 4 people that can change the list. Shining, Sep, Jean, Obi.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:35 GMT
#4236
On May 02 2015 08:34 sicklucker wrote:
im too bored to follow this game.

So Jean Valjean should have two checks and we should know who their on. If someone didnt go and look at his reads on the player below him on the list you probably should.

Jean had exactly 1 check and it was on Breshke. Read the thread if you want to post stuff.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:37 GMT
#4239
On May 02 2015 08:36 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 17:51 Jean Valjean wrote:
On April 29 2015 13:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Jean Valjean aka Bats: Even thoguh I agreed with him on Breshke early on he been pretty meh and normally a bad player I remember him lynching himself in Student IV and it was funny as hell watching it happen :O


I may be overreacting here so I'm hoping someone actually gives enough shits to step in and comment. This single read erodes whatever town lean I had on LS based off of Holyflare's point regarding Lightningstrike's reaction to rsoultin giving up.

I'm going to break it down.

On April 29 2015 13:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Jean Valjean aka Bats:

I'm not Bats.

On April 29 2015 13:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Even thoguh I agreed with him on Breshke early on

Good, my case on Breshke was a strong one.

On April 29 2015 13:32 LightningStrike wrote:
he been pretty meh

No I haven't. Unless meh means something entirely different where LS comes from. I have been open to challenges about my reads, I have actively presented information and ideas to the thread, including multiple opinions about players backed up by analysis or explanation of why I think what I think. At best it's insulting that he thinks my game has been meh, at worst it simply means he has no idea and "meh" is an easy word to throw in there when talking about a no name player.

On April 29 2015 13:32 LightningStrike wrote:
and normally a bad player

No I haven't been bad. Yes we don't know if my #1 scumread backed by a strong case is mafia, but we do know that my #2 scumread, also backed by a very strong and factually correct case was mafia. I ended up voting on the correct wagon because of precisely this, I am willing to compromise and my intentions were clear through my posts all throughout day 1. Again, at best this is insulting, and at worst he's just throwing it out there because he hasn't read a single word I've said.

On April 29 2015 13:32 LightningStrike wrote:
I remember him lynching himself in Student IV and it was funny as hell watching it happen :O

If we ignore the fact that I am not batsnacks, even if I was what the hell would this sentence have to do with his read on me? Why does this matter? Let's pretend LS hadn't written anything about bats because obviously anything written about bats is both irrelevant to the case at hand and doesn't apply to me, being not bats.

So what's left of LS's read on me? I'll post it again.

On April 29 2015 13:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Even thoguh I agreed with him on Breshke early on he been pretty meh and normally a bad player


Why not just straight up admit he hasn't read me instead of posting that is clearly lying on his part. Both of the statement (meh and bad) can be proven to be false by reading my filter, yet he posts them anyway. The following are the possible reasons for posting what he posted in his list:

#1: He wants to antagonize me to try to get me to respond and get a read on me.

#2: He wants to antagonize me because he's a massive dick

#3: He hasn't read anything I've said but felt like he needed to have an opinion on me.

I see no indication that #1 is true because he threw out a bunch of other "meh" reads in his list. I cannot comment on all of those simply because I don't have the in-depth analysis of everyone involved to be qualified to speak about it. Maybe LS is just an asshole of a player, but I haven't gotten that feeling from his posting so that leaves me to conclude the correct conclusion is #3.

In which case he is mafia because he is making up reads.

I'm voting LS.



he might have a red check on Ls does the list match up?

On May 02 2015 08:35 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 08:34 sicklucker wrote:
im too bored to follow this game.

So Jean Valjean should have two checks and we should know who their on. If someone didnt go and look at his reads on the player below him on the list you probably should.

Jean had exactly 1 check and it was on Breshke. Read the thread if you want to post stuff.

indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:42 GMT
#4241
On May 02 2015 08:38 The Shining wrote:
Oh the Jean thing. K I won't post again until I revisit Jean's filter.

Wasn't directed at you. I am pretty sure he did not get a redcheck on Breshke since he was really adamant about him being mafia day1 and night1 but did not push him at all afterwards.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:56 GMT
#4246
On May 02 2015 08:49 The Shining wrote:
I know but it still pertains to me, as I was literally just thinking about how Breshkes role, like LS/Obi/Chez/IJ's roles, don't necessarily give me anything alignment indicative.

GP though. And to answer you about my joke earlier, let's just hope it is Vivax so I can stalk someone tonight. Good thing is, they can't rb both RSo and myself tonight so something good should come out of next night phase.

It is probably not Vivax because Vivax was supposedly rbed night1. If I had to guess -> Chezinu. Most suspicious people have either claimed a verified role or were rbed themselves by now. Chezinu on the other hand is still a total mystery.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 01 2015 23:59 GMT
#4248
On May 02 2015 08:56 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 08:49 The Shining wrote:
I know but it still pertains to me, as I was literally just thinking about how Breshkes role, like LS/Obi/Chez/IJ's roles, don't necessarily give me anything alignment indicative.

GP though. And to answer you about my joke earlier, let's just hope it is Vivax so I can stalk someone tonight. Good thing is, they can't rb both RSo and myself tonight so something good should come out of next night phase.

It is probably not Vivax because Vivax was supposedly rbed night1. If I had to guess -> Chezinu. Most suspicious people have either claimed a verified role or were rbed themselves by now. Chezinu on the other hand is still a total mystery.

I mean who else could it even be? Yamato or HF maybe. But that should be less likely for obvious reasons.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 00:29 GMT
#4265
On May 02 2015 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
this game seems a bit weird to me

3 cops + watcher/tracker + w/e else we have vs a vote stealer/rber/fight rigger/cop/???/??? it's not like anything particularly op is happening from mafia afaik

1 guy has died all game lol

Yes, but the longer the game goes the more people will die from KP/fights/random damage. It is not surprising that there aren't many kills in the first nights.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 00:53 GMT
#4269
On May 02 2015 09:47 Holyflare wrote:
my little thing on stutters is pretty good btw, he's very likely mafia

It's possible. Could you explain the whole thing in more detail?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 01:22 GMT
#4276
On May 02 2015 10:13 Stutters695 wrote:
Now I'm wondering why you don't have any opinions on who hit you earlier if they should have taken damage from your pgo.

Why would he? Mafia won't claim this.
On May 02 2015 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
do you really think someone would "test" someones power when they have pushed 2 very likely mafia instead of just dealing dmg to the shitty afk people?

This seems like a very good question. You claim having used the strongest KP ability we know of besides scum KP to test the claim of a universal townread who alluded to having very few HP when he was put in a fight instead of just going for a kill on someone scummy.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 12:53 GMT
#4549
Wow, you guys sure went into spamming mode.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 12:55 GMT
#4550
On May 02 2015 20:05 Breshke wrote:
Jat has taken a large amount of damage.

So?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 13:00 GMT
#4554
On May 02 2015 21:56 rsoultin wrote:
xP another smart person seemingly not understand the obvious. what do you think he's implying, jat? or would you just rather he say it directly?

No, I would rather he just says it directly.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 13:05 GMT
#4558
On May 02 2015 22:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 22:00 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 21:56 rsoultin wrote:
xP another smart person seemingly not understand the obvious. what do you think he's implying, jat? or would you just rather he say it directly?

No, I would rather he just says it directly.


fair enough ^^

how sure are you about holyflare?

Why even bother thinking about him? It is clear who we lynch today and it is clear that he has been severely damaged regardless of alignment. Scum will kill him very soon if he is town.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 13:17 GMT
#4560
On May 02 2015 22:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 22:05 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 22:02 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 22:00 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 21:56 rsoultin wrote:
xP another smart person seemingly not understand the obvious. what do you think he's implying, jat? or would you just rather he say it directly?

No, I would rather he just says it directly.


fair enough ^^

how sure are you about holyflare?

Why even bother thinking about him? It is clear who we lynch today and it is clear that he has been severely damaged regardless of alignment. Scum will kill him very soon if he is town.


honestly? cause he's bugging me and i want people to comment ^^ that's not difficult. otherwise we can all just sit here with our thumbs up our asses voting vivax and doing nothing

lightningstrike you're missing the point. i don't care if you moved your vote. that doesn't clear up your alignment

I am still catching up which is more interesting than talking about HF. If you want me to comment on him tell me what your problem is. If it is that he called you 3p then I can't help you. That's not alignment indicative.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 13:20 GMT
#4562
On May 02 2015 22:19 LightningStrike wrote:
HF put me in the main fight please? <3

Why?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 02 2015 13:26 GMT
#4564
On May 02 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 22:17 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 22:13 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 22:05 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 22:02 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 22:00 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 21:56 rsoultin wrote:
xP another smart person seemingly not understand the obvious. what do you think he's implying, jat? or would you just rather he say it directly?

No, I would rather he just says it directly.


fair enough ^^

how sure are you about holyflare?

Why even bother thinking about him? It is clear who we lynch today and it is clear that he has been severely damaged regardless of alignment. Scum will kill him very soon if he is town.


honestly? cause he's bugging me and i want people to comment ^^ that's not difficult. otherwise we can all just sit here with our thumbs up our asses voting vivax and doing nothing

lightningstrike you're missing the point. i don't care if you moved your vote. that doesn't clear up your alignment

I am still catching up which is more interesting than talking about HF. If you want me to comment on him tell me what your problem is. If it is that he called you 3p then I can't help you. That's not alignment indicative.


if you're catching up you should see the things bugging me about him. i'll wait

if it's still not obvious then i'll put it all in one place. i recognize it's not relevant to the lynch but it's obviously relevant if people are still adamant about making him fight promoter every night :/

You mean people like you? I told you if you don't trust HF vote me. Did you do that? No.
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