[T] Hajime no Ippo Maifa - Page 23

On May 05 2015 14:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yamato has more going for him than I do at this juncture tbh.

On May 05 2015 13:07 LightningStrike wrote:

Well if Yamato is town Xata is likely town since he got hit by a shit ton of kp early on stutters would be my only real scumread I had listed my reasons why he was scum in my filter. Also the roleblock stuff still kinda confusing regarding rsoultin Night 2 but it's possible that there is a jailkeeper like role for town and used it on rsoultin Night 2.

On May 05 2015 10:49 Damdred wrote:
Ignore my posts about dmg. I'm just trying to think outloud just going to read filters.

Damdred
Jat
Breshke
Xata
Obi
Sl/LS
Bats
Yamato

Chez(?)

Is where I'm at now, going to try to reread the game a bit to see anything. Or at least d1.

On May 05 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw Damdred, I think I know what you're talking about in regards to Xatalos being a deep mafia.

You were referencing the post where he told yamato to look at way too many people, yes?

On April 28 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant
yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert
Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean
Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast
Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandroba
rsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre
Sepulchre (0): rsoultin
LightningStrike (0): Breshke
Vivax (0): Inspector Javert
marvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, Koshi
Koshi (0): Holyflare
sicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
Xatalos (0): Koshi

Not voted (2): rygart, Damdred,

Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:

On May 06 2015 00:15 Damdred wrote:
I think someone asked me why breshke is so high up, I think its very likely Jean checked him. And his play while uninspiring I don't see a lot of scum motivation in it at this point

On May 05 2015 22:59 indignant wrote:

I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore.
So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw.

Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know.
So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro.
So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred.

sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant
yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert
Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean
Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast
Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandroba
rsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre
Sepulchre (0): rsoultin
LightningStrike (0): Breshke
Vivax (0): Inspector Javert
marvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, Koshi
Koshi (0): Holyflare
sicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
Xatalos (0): Koshi

Not voted (2): rygart, Damdred


That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way.

Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game.
Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort.
Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though.
LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him.

So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon?

Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum.
SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me.
Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too.
Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops.
Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke.

So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF.
The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today.