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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 12:58 GMT
#2689
Sepu vs Shining gogogo
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 13:19 GMT
#2706
Agreeing with marv on everything = the ultimate skill level
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 13:20 GMT
#2709
:D:D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 13:20 GMT
#2710
Yeah the association between FF and sl didn't really make much sense.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 13:28 GMT
#2713
indignant is never going to forget the 3P interrogation is he?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 13:30 GMT
#2719
Hahahaha
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 13:35 GMT
#2723
Jean: rsoul does have a point though in the fact that "clean" doesn't generally mean that your posts are perfect, but rather that they're overly constructed and careful instead of genuine.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 15:25 GMT
#2743
On April 30 2015 00:11 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 22:30 marvellosity wrote:
On April 29 2015 22:29 Jean Valjean wrote:
On April 29 2015 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
On April 29 2015 22:09 Breshke wrote:
On April 29 2015 18:25 Breshke wrote:
Jean do you think im town now or something?

I only chose the correct lynch on mafia as my #2 option for the lynch and not #1. Until Breshke flips it can be argued that I made a mistake, which is not something characterized by mafia who are trying to be holier than thou to gain town credit. So with the correctness thing out of the picture there is very little left in Vivax' scumread on me. At best his accusation is some sort of a tone read I suppose?


This paragraph doesn't really make sense. So you are saying vivax is wrong about your posts being clean (meaning they were right?) because I'm town? You seem to have also dropped interest in pushing me is there a reason I don't really think I have improved my play at all.


Rso did you see this is this paragraph from jean read as weird to you as it dos to me. If you need context i can post the entirety of the post it was posted in if you can't find it.



jean in general seems weird to me?

thus the smurf/newbie? question

as for this read kinda agree with marv lol >< i don't think he actually got what vivax was saying about "clean"

still...the read lacks any comprehension that if someone is already suspicious of you, pushing another case against a player you'd already cased who is getting lynched, and then flips scum, that wouldn't make you look better

so, yeah -_- at best this guy isn't the most logical person?

he even thinks ls saying he's a "bad player" is separate from ls thinking he's bats lol ><


I genuinely dislike you. I don't know if that makes you mafia, but you treat people like shit to try to gain some sort of an intellectual high ground on them when everything you say is at best unsupported and at worst dumb.

why even respond to this instead of the #4 option i presented about your case earlier?

i don't get it


At the time I wasn't around to post anything that was of much value and I just got annoyed at that post by rsoultin.

Regarding your suggestion that maybe he's just bad, I still don't quite get why he would in that case say something that's wrong. Even bad players are capable of just pointing out things that are factually correct. I just think it's weird that he wouldn't simply admit to not having a clue if he didn't. Why is he trying to make it look like he has put more effort into the game than he has? That's what is bothering me.

Maybe I was overreacting and I should just stick to Vivax. There really does exist a reason for Vivax being mafia as I explained in my post about his read against me.

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On April 29 2015 22:35 Xatalos wrote:
Jean: rsoul does have a point though in the fact that "clean" doesn't generally mean that your posts are perfect, but rather that they're overly constructed and careful instead of genuine.


Sure but why wouldn't I post in a constructed manner? I think my posts are extremely easy to read and help people process my thoughts in a straightforward manner. Why would I immediately post every thought that comes to me like a blathering monkey instead of presenting the things I have to say in a pleasant and constructed manner?

It's not like using paragraphs makes me mafia, is it?



I hope the "blathering monkey" doesn't refer to me

In any case, I was mostly pointing out that your response to being called "clean" was based on a false assumption. With that out of the way, yeah, it doesn't really make you scum. Each has their own playstyle. Generally though it's not a good sign if someone makes huge posts with lots of text and little conclusions... You do at least have conclusions, it's just that your style is somewhat detached from the thread and as such can give the impression of not caring too much. Personally I have a hard time townreading you and if you're town, you could maybe focus on A) giving your input on relevant discussion topics B) finding genuinely new / useful stuff that nobody else noticed yet. You've been kind of doing B, but it's been... more like explaining why you'd think some way, not pushing your opinion to make others change their mind or to get feedback.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 15:27 GMT
#2744
Damdred hasn't really done much that I can remember. What's going for him is his vote on sandroba but I hope he does something else too.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 16:20 GMT
#2767
On April 30 2015 00:35 indignant wrote:
I swear I did not read Xatalos post before I answered.


Such a parrot
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 16:21 GMT
#2768
I hope HF at least submits the fight thing.

It's a bit sad since he promised to promote the fight but we'll see.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 17:57 GMT
#2861
You'll hang for punching me

##Unvote
##Vote FecalFeast
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 18:08 GMT
#2865
Hm yeah he did look like he thought he had catched The Shining or something.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 20:37 GMT
#2978
Honestly it's just too unlikely for FF to be town IMO. And if he was, we'd still have to explain the actions through some other means. Occam's razor.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 29 2015 20:40 GMT
#2983
Nah, lynch FF. Everything just fits if he's scum. Something like a wandering miller also sounds exactly like a scum fakeclaim IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 30 2015 11:45 GMT
#3308
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 30 2015 11:48 GMT
#3309
Votestealing roles are indeed more Mafia-oriented so that's not looking so good... It's a bit baffling why he would claim here though.

I'd like to hear the "specific reason" he mentioned to me before he gets lynched or something though It might even clear him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 30 2015 11:49 GMT
#3310
On April 30 2015 17:53 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 17:51 marvellosity wrote:
LYNCH ALL THE PEOPLE


3p survivor claim


Surprised indignant didn't jump on this :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 30 2015 11:50 GMT
#3311
On April 30 2015 17:54 marvellosity wrote:
I would say, given sand flipped with vote-altering powers, if LS were mafia, that's a lot of vote-altering powers mafia has its disposal


This is true too... Then again, it's probably not OP considering that there are a ton of town roles.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 30 2015 11:54 GMT
#3315
Oh, didn't notice that one. Maybe it's related to the "restricted" thing he was talking about earlier.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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