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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 04:20 GMT
#1360
On March 29 2015 13:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 13:15 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not saying any differently. I'm saying he was your only scum read and now he isn't so who else do you think is mafia that should be lynched that isn't you.

I kinda forgot about Hapa because he not posted much and what he posted was pretty meh. I never played with him before but apparently if he is shit he's Mafia I heard?


Aren't you the one that checks the database for these things? :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 04:25 GMT
#1369
On March 29 2015 13:23 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 13:17 Holyflare wrote:
On March 29 2015 13:15 Crossfire99 wrote:
On March 29 2015 13:13 Holyflare wrote:
Ls unfortunately i still need to lynch you unless you can steer me in a better direction that isn't koshi.

Is there a reason you want LS over hapa?


Well hapa is just flat out afk and i don't play with him at all so don't know if flat out afk is normally scummy for him (well it is scummy in comparison to his town game) or an anomaly but would still probably lynch him regardless. It doesn't give much info compared to ls who is active though and people have stances on.

He got the benefit of the doubt for AFK'ing after the first 20 minutes of the game. But there's no reality where a town Hapa is in the thread reading/replying to people but not making reads and pushing them.

He's probably one of the top 10 strongest town players I've ever played with. Does his filter look like it to you?


Where am i disagreeing with you??..
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 04:28 GMT
#1372
"i want to lynch hapa because it's not like his town game and he's scummy regardless of whether it's like his normal scum game or not!"

"hapa is scummy bro! Lynch him!"

Seems rather an odd direction after i said i already want to lynch him. Why not just talk about ls instead because you know.... Information that isn't just someone afking.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 04:34 GMT
#1378
Well I'm not gonna trust anything he says so there's that too :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 04:35 GMT
#1380
Going to sleep... Maybe. Do some stuffz.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 04:45 GMT
#1394
I thought he was honestly just going to bust out a massive post and then we lynch ls. I'm still dreaming.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 04:49 GMT
#1398
Red
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 09:57 GMT
#1439
On March 29 2015 16:15 yamato77 wrote:
I'd rather HF not get in power

his reads seem... shallow.


Considering that you don't even know the reasons that i want to lynch ls I'm just going to go ahead and say that's bs.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 11:09 GMT
#1440
likely towny

rsoul
koshi
batsnacks (plz do more just in case?)

probably towny


Trfel
ExO_
obi
kita
vayneauthority

uhhh i guess maybe towny?

yamato (totally based on some bs calling me out and nothing more, plz don't be underwhelming)
ritoky (seriously just trolling -.- want to put further down but trolling probably town - has 2 scummy people and a claimed 3p in his list of towns lol)
Onegu (ehhh isn't actually being that awful and tempted to move him up potentially, he has reads but i'm not feeling conclusive)
alakaslam (probably should be up, peach4life, seems pretty happyish and although he's changing meta he seems pretty genuinely lost so re-evaluate up)
jat (lol, tell me some scum reads and i'll move you up for free ^^)
sepulcher (ehhhhhhhh he's not actually that bad now that i look at filter (his onegu/bh stuff), would like to see him talk a lot more otherwise down you gooo)
visceraeyes (might move him up, like his reads quite a lot actually (keirathi underwhelming etc) wait for next list veee, i got your back)


null


keirathi (weird defence on accused (exo etc), looks a bit tmiish, hard on for hapa and won't discuss anyone else, null null plz change (i did like you at the time but you fallen off completely and it looks worse now))
crossfire99 (honestly have no idea, he can write wall of texts as mafia from what i've seen and also be lurkyish, lack of defensiveness i'd probably equate to being town but would like some more)
snarfs (not much to go on, his plan wasn't too bad but anyone can make that, his town list isn't that awful either, bit of a weird read on chez though but not sure i hate it so far, maybe up a bit later)
chezitwo (meeeeeh?)

scummy tier but not actually full blown scum

WaveofShadow (plz don't be mafia :'( play with meeee and put some effort in when you're back, I wanna hear reasoned out reads plz)


like wtf are you even doing scum tier


hts
bh

damdred (very very underwhelming, probably down to mafia level, his town reads were on odd people who hadn't really done anything much (me, jat etc) it just looked really weird)


genuinely scummy


hapa (why................?)
ls (said reasons quite a few times now, read game plz (his post was very very wishy washy and forced much like his last scum game, obi outlined that his rsoul push looked forced because he was using reads (associative) that he doesn't normally use, he tried to defend himself with meta that he already knew about (not pushing), the forced push for lame reasons combined with his post and then like total shut down and puppy spamming probably makes him mafia)

3p
sl

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 12:52 GMT
#1459
-.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:07 GMT
#1475
On March 29 2015 22:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Also fyi I was trying Palmar's meta since I high regard him as one of the best town players I had played with :O


palmar is a pile of wank
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:11 GMT
#1478
On March 29 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
dude seriously all i asked for was something original

-facedesks-

this is almost pissing me off how you've approached this game, especially if you're town

meh

yo, hf, you comfortable with truffle's "you're a good scum player i don't know how to read you" turning into a vote on you xP while saying y'all have the same scumreads but pushing a lynch of a player he believes to be a third party?


well I simply chalked it up to me trolling around and not doing much to me actually starting to play and thus his read changed


not sure I like this though

On March 29 2015 21:57 Sepulchre wrote:
@Holyflare's listpost: I disagree heavily with batsnacks, I'd put him next to WaveofShadow personally. I'm somewhat okay with the rest of the list to varying degrees.

The two people who said Hapahauli is a Jester-type role I read as very town. It fits perfectly the kind of wtf play he has been doing and I think no mafia would say that in this situation - Hapahauli was (and is I suppose) the prime lynch target and as mafia they wouldn't care one bit about that, so long as it's not a mafia member getting lynched.

Between rsoultin and VayneAuthority I think VayneAuthority seems like the smarter guy. So I'll vote him now since I can't fully guarantee being back before the deadline.


likes my list to varying degrees (fine i get the batsnacks thing but he's town so w/e) and likes the jester ppl and then... votes va who he knows not much about at all? i don't really think he's even said much about va at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:13 GMT
#1479
On March 29 2015 22:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
dude seriously all i asked for was something original

-facedesks-

this is almost pissing me off how you've approached this game, especially if you're town

meh

yo, hf, you comfortable with truffle's "you're a good scum player i don't know how to read you" turning into a vote on you xP while saying y'all have the same scumreads but pushing a lynch of a player he believes to be a third party?


well I simply chalked it up to me trolling around and not doing much to me actually starting to play and thus his read changed


not sure I like this though

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 21:57 Sepulchre wrote:
@Holyflare's listpost: I disagree heavily with batsnacks, I'd put him next to WaveofShadow personally. I'm somewhat okay with the rest of the list to varying degrees.

The two people who said Hapahauli is a Jester-type role I read as very town. It fits perfectly the kind of wtf play he has been doing and I think no mafia would say that in this situation - Hapahauli was (and is I suppose) the prime lynch target and as mafia they wouldn't care one bit about that, so long as it's not a mafia member getting lynched.

Between rsoultin and VayneAuthority I think VayneAuthority seems like the smarter guy. So I'll vote him now since I can't fully guarantee being back before the deadline.


likes my list to varying degrees (fine i get the batsnacks thing but he's town so w/e) and likes the jester ppl and then... votes va who he knows not much about at all? i don't really think he's even said much about va at all



yeh he's said absolutely 0 things about VA and VA wasn't even one of the people that talked about the jester thing so this just magically appears
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:25 GMT
#1484
On March 29 2015 22:15 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 22:13 Holyflare wrote:
On March 29 2015 22:11 Holyflare wrote:
On March 29 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
dude seriously all i asked for was something original

-facedesks-

this is almost pissing me off how you've approached this game, especially if you're town

meh

yo, hf, you comfortable with truffle's "you're a good scum player i don't know how to read you" turning into a vote on you xP while saying y'all have the same scumreads but pushing a lynch of a player he believes to be a third party?


well I simply chalked it up to me trolling around and not doing much to me actually starting to play and thus his read changed


not sure I like this though

On March 29 2015 21:57 Sepulchre wrote:
@Holyflare's listpost: I disagree heavily with batsnacks, I'd put him next to WaveofShadow personally. I'm somewhat okay with the rest of the list to varying degrees.

The two people who said Hapahauli is a Jester-type role I read as very town. It fits perfectly the kind of wtf play he has been doing and I think no mafia would say that in this situation - Hapahauli was (and is I suppose) the prime lynch target and as mafia they wouldn't care one bit about that, so long as it's not a mafia member getting lynched.

Between rsoultin and VayneAuthority I think VayneAuthority seems like the smarter guy. So I'll vote him now since I can't fully guarantee being back before the deadline.


likes my list to varying degrees (fine i get the batsnacks thing but he's town so w/e) and likes the jester ppl and then... votes va who he knows not much about at all? i don't really think he's even said much about va at all



yeh he's said absolutely 0 things about VA and VA wasn't even one of the people that talked about the jester thing so this just magically appears

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 13:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
my personal opinion is that hapa has a role that wants to be lynched or something. Whether that is town or mafia remains to be seen lol.



do you think that's enough to vote him into power lol :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:27 GMT
#1485
let's killlll bh for blatantly antagonising koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:38 GMT
#1490
On March 29 2015 22:35 Damdred wrote:
It takes awhile to catch up, for instance chez Scum reads med or some factually incorrect reasons such as me town reading him which isn't true at all. And called me out for not being here exactly or something to the effect however he then let's off other people who are guilty of the same which is weird t me.

Give me one sec on snarls there was one post I really disliked I'd like to quote and talk about

On March 29 2015 20:53 Chezitwo wrote:
Ironically given BH's posting, BH would make a great policy lynch. I'm fairly sure he'd happily play this way as mafia, but he could easily play like this as town too. Hence a good policy lynch.

I think we're more likely to make headway looking for mafia in HtS and Damdred who are more straightforward with their play. Both of what they've done suggests scum, but it's almost too obvious, so I'd like to see a lot more between now and the end of the day.


he doesn't?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:40 GMT
#1493
On March 29 2015 22:39 Damdred wrote:
Hrm I thought it was you who said I was town reading you? If not names could of ran together


I did in my list:

damdred (very very underwhelming, probably down to mafia level, his town reads were on odd people who hadn't really done anything much (me, jat etc) it just looked really weird)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:49 GMT
#1499
On March 29 2015 22:46 Onegu wrote:
@ HF

Why are you giving JAT a free up with reads? Doesnt the fact he doesn't have many concerns you. Plus am I off on the TMI thing?


because if he's mafia he can't do it and he'll drop down, what tmi thing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 13:59 GMT
#1502
On March 29 2015 22:50 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 03:34 Onegu wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:14 Sepulchre wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:10 Sepulchre wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:06 Onegu wrote:
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!

Well I do understand it now, however that doesn't change the fact that we don't need to waste our vote on a probable modkill.

From what I'm gathering his actions also don't really have anything to do with his alignment (considering people saw this coming beforehand), so I think we could probably do better.

How did you gather this?

Because Blazinghand/Onegu motioned to policy lynch him before his latest bunch of posts that made everybody (me admittedly included) want to get rid of him.

Ok. But BH and Onegu want to policy lynch him for being an annoyingly aggressive and aggressively wrong lunatic in his last games as town. As you can see he is the opposite this game which indicates that he is scum. He isn't able to emulate his townplay as scum at all.



Btw I really don't like this post feels like he knows I'm town. Like if I was scum I would want a josh I who I know can't read me for shit in this game. This stinks of TMI to me



don't see it at all?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 15:00 GMT
#1510
sepul returns to cause maximum confusion and leaves again I seeeeee, where you go dude?
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