On April 02 2015 01:13 Half the Sky wrote: [quote]
I don't like Crossfire's returning either, seems like it could be a scum buff, and I wasn't happy with his play at all prior to his death. I think his play was incongruent with what he claimed to be.
Also unless I'm misunderstanding you, his role exists, just scum, BH mentioned a "Strongbad" check from one of the cops, so the role definitely exists.
I believe most of his claim, I just don't believe it comes from town. His explanation for why he appeared as mafia sounds like bullshit. I do believe a mafia role could exist that makes you reveal your alignment on your fake death to avoid a lynch.
um, common sense?
he could be mafia, but if it's to avoid a lynch why would he choose to use it then?
BECUASE THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL.
lol in lemon juice? i don't recall him being a prime lynch target but perhaps i'm missing something
You apparently are, considering what I and others were discussing N1.
quotes please
Go read. HtS, me, others.
okay, you can be a stubborn ass or realize that if you really believe crossfire is scum and did this to avoid being lynched, presenting your evidence with your accusation generally bears more weight and will strengthen your push ^^
i am reading filters right now and will get to it when i get to it
can you turn down the aggression long enough to actually discuss things like a rational human being, or should i ignore you? honest question. cause this is wasting my time currently
You're the one acting like I'm not worth listening to and getting butthurt that I called you mafia.
I'm sick of the direction this game has taken and I will do something about it.
You can find HtS' initial post about crossfire N1 and go from there.
reread the posts we've exchanged and come back when you grow up please and thank you ^^
On April 02 2015 01:39 kitaman27 wrote: Proposed plan:
Trfel claims 3p with the ability to enact a 1:1 bonus lynch dual for the following day cycle. Town should agree on a target and request Trfel to use said lynch on target player. If he refuses to cooperate with town, we kill him off. Worst case, mafia has to waste a roleblock on a claimed 3p.
Thoughts?
Like why are you focusing on this instead of deciding who the best lynches are?
I'm informing town that this is an option and they should share their preference.
I'm working on a night post....so I'll probably decide one as my preference and reveal the rest at the deadline once I finish.
On April 02 2015 02:06 Koshi wrote: Rsoultin I said WoS is 100% mafia
i know koshi <3 he's on my list to look closely at, though him admitting to the kill, while it could be a mafia play for towncred as has been suggested, makes me doubt that at least a little
there's just this thing where players sit there and openly align themselves with players everyone wants to kill that makes me think they're probably not scum...the WoS and slam thing is another point against WoS being scum
On April 02 2015 01:39 kitaman27 wrote: Proposed plan:
Trfel claims 3p with the ability to enact a 1:1 bonus lynch dual for the following day cycle. Town should agree on a target and request Trfel to use said lynch on target player. If he refuses to cooperate with town, we kill him off. Worst case, mafia has to waste a roleblock on a claimed 3p.
Thoughts?
Like why are you focusing on this instead of deciding who the best lynches are?
I'm informing town that this is an option and they should share their preference.
I'm working on a night post....so I'll probably decide one as my preference and reveal the rest at the deadline once I finish.
I generally like the plan.
an extra lynch is always a good plan xD
Didn't realize it was a bonus lynch when I first read. It's a bonus lynch with a confirmed 3p in one of the slots. I can't see that losing, but I can't see Trfel going for it either >.>
i can't see him being happy about it no, but he can be forced to go for it
On April 02 2015 02:10 Holyflare wrote: Like i have no reason to think that xfire plan comes from a mafia at all. Seemed very genuine to me.
+1
we were discussing it together. i could admittedly be insanely gullible lol >< but he phrased it like he could kill himself and present himself as any alignment or role
the alternative is blazinghand is scum working with both crossfire and moriarty (or town!moriarty is too much of a pussy to say he never got back a strongbad check)
that's a little too conspiracy theory for me, even if it's technically possible
although i guess if we're going to go the conspiracy theory route a scum!moriarty could check scum!strongbad just so scum!strongbad could kill himself in a suspicious way and be cleared by scum!moriarty's check
On April 02 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote: Trfel is probably working with mafia right now. Damdred is lying about items and not playing. Wave shot hapa who is confirmed to give us a double lynch and he didn't discuss it in thread at all and this was at the point where we only just started really getting to the bottom of it and complains about pm's but only kept his talk to pm's. I have absolutely no reason to trust kita who is just trying to learn everyone's roles and not finding mafia and kept trying to discredit me the entire game for no reason. He also didn't like a sicklucker lynch even though the towny players saw the meta and it was pretty convincing and that dude flipped town.
Probably at least mafia in the above. Exo/rsoul is a bit dodgy tbh but I'm not sure if it's dodgy enough to not be a silly mistake (+rsoul town read slam so no reason to out he had power). Slam probably just 3p and va seems cool but I'm not sure about him.
wait how was hapa confirmed holyflare?
and you were one of the main people pushing VA...what changed?
On April 02 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote: Trfel is probably working with mafia right now. Damdred is lying about items and not playing. Wave shot hapa who is confirmed to give us a double lynch and he didn't discuss it in thread at all and this was at the point where we only just started really getting to the bottom of it and complains about pm's but only kept his talk to pm's. I have absolutely no reason to trust kita who is just trying to learn everyone's roles and not finding mafia and kept trying to discredit me the entire game for no reason. He also didn't like a sicklucker lynch even though the towny players saw the meta and it was pretty convincing and that dude flipped town.
Probably at least mafia in the above. Exo/rsoul is a bit dodgy tbh but I'm not sure if it's dodgy enough to not be a silly mistake (+rsoul town read slam so no reason to out he had power). Slam probably just 3p and va seems cool but I'm not sure about him.
wait how was hapa confirmed holyflare?
and you were one of the main people pushing VA...what changed?
because if wave is mafia then he knows hapa isn't lying so it's a good shot to push......? i pushed va because of marv but so much bussing so it's redundant
well i mean yeah shooting hapa could come from town or scum but i guess i'm not sure why it makes wave scum. it's kinda null for me. if we want to get real pants-on-head wifomy hapa was probably better left as a mislynch given how suspicious people were of him
was there someone else being discussed for the shot that i'm not aware of?
On April 02 2015 02:46 Holyflare wrote: because wave has 0 town credit and wanted to look like he was doing something obviously
this is a story -_- you're better than this hf
have fun doing whatever lol
I fail to see how this is so farfetched to warrant your reaction, it seems entirely basic to me??? has wave even claimed his role to anyone?
i'm not saying it's far-fetched
i'm saying there are two stories that are equally likely and for whatever reason you're pushing this one. it wasn't a "well if he's scum this is why he'd do this" it's a "he is scum. he did this for this reason"
On April 02 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote: Trfel is probably working with mafia right now. Damdred is lying about items and not playing.
Could you into a little more detail about the damdred thing?
If LS is indeed town cop and Damdred does not have a win condition where he is removed from the game when LS dies, do you think a mafia Damdred claims that role knowing he will need a new excuse in a day or two?
if a mafia damdred claims a role contingent on ls living...then the mafia is unlikely to kill ls. that's kind of elementary. ls' role is more dangerous if he's dead as i understand the way it functions
On April 02 2015 02:46 Holyflare wrote: because wave has 0 town credit and wanted to look like he was doing something obviously
this is a story -_- you're better than this hf
have fun doing whatever lol
I fail to see how this is so farfetched to warrant your reaction, it seems entirely basic to me??? has wave even claimed his role to anyone?
i'm not saying it's far-fetched
i'm saying there are two stories that are equally likely and for whatever reason you're pushing this one. it wasn't a "well if he's scum this is why he'd do this" it's a "he is scum. he did this for this reason"
how do you not understand the difference?
i detest narratives, because that's all they are
because he didn't discuss it at all in the thread while whining about the pm's it's increasingly more likely he did it to suck up to jat/x/y/z, especially as he asked ME the claimed 3p who to shoot first
so because of this you've decided he's scum therefore the narrative you latch onto is a scum narrative
okay
lol
i dunnae i can see playing things close to the chest to be town-motivated as well, tbh, however the asking you point is probably the strongest. you definitely shouldn't be trusted despite your whining about people leaving you out of things xP
On April 02 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote: Trfel is probably working with mafia right now. Damdred is lying about items and not playing.
Could you into a little more detail about the damdred thing?
If LS is indeed town cop and Damdred does not have a win condition where he is removed from the game when LS dies, do you think a mafia Damdred claims that role knowing he will need a new excuse in a day or two?
if a mafia damdred claims a role contingent on ls living...then the mafia is unlikely to kill ls. that's kind of elementary. ls' role is more dangerous if he's dead as i understand the way it functions
I haven't ever come across a group of mafia that leave a claimed cop alive and unroleblocked for the sake of a single player's excuse.
On April 02 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote: Trfel is probably working with mafia right now. Damdred is lying about items and not playing.
Could you into a little more detail about the damdred thing?
If LS is indeed town cop and Damdred does not have a win condition where he is removed from the game when LS dies, do you think a mafia Damdred claims that role knowing he will need a new excuse in a day or two?
if a mafia damdred claims a role contingent on ls living...then the mafia is unlikely to kill ls. that's kind of elementary. ls' role is more dangerous if he's dead as i understand the way it functions
I haven't ever come across a group of mafia that leave a claimed cop alive and unroleblocked for the sake of a single player's excuse.
kita all his checks get revealed when ls dies
Well then the faster he dies the better?!
if he's not roleblocked?
-shrugs-
damdred may not be mafia i guess :/ i'm just saying it's possible
On April 02 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote: Trfel is probably working with mafia right now. Damdred is lying about items and not playing.
Could you into a little more detail about the damdred thing?
If LS is indeed town cop and Damdred does not have a win condition where he is removed from the game when LS dies, do you think a mafia Damdred claims that role knowing he will need a new excuse in a day or two?
if a mafia damdred claims a role contingent on ls living...then the mafia is unlikely to kill ls. that's kind of elementary. ls' role is more dangerous if he's dead as i understand the way it functions
I haven't ever come across a group of mafia that leave a claimed cop alive and unroleblocked for the sake of a single player's excuse.
kita all his checks get revealed when ls dies
This wasn't very smart to say.
lightningstrike claimed his ENTIRE role in thread day 1; not exactly rocket science
On April 02 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote: Trfel is probably working with mafia right now. Damdred is lying about items and not playing.
Could you into a little more detail about the damdred thing?
If LS is indeed town cop and Damdred does not have a win condition where he is removed from the game when LS dies, do you think a mafia Damdred claims that role knowing he will need a new excuse in a day or two?
if a mafia damdred claims a role contingent on ls living...then the mafia is unlikely to kill ls. that's kind of elementary. ls' role is more dangerous if he's dead as i understand the way it functions
I haven't ever come across a group of mafia that leave a claimed cop alive and unroleblocked for the sake of a single player's excuse.
kita all his checks get revealed when ls dies
Well then the faster he dies the better?!
if he's not roleblocked?
-shrugs-
damdred may not be mafia i guess :/ i'm just saying it's possible
Ok. Who IS mafia?
working on it. i've already stated a few people i'm suspicious of but i'm not going to just throw names out simply because you ask
EPT
