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On January 17 2015 00:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 00:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 17 2015 00:18 Vivax wrote:
Artanis, give me one reason or more to not lynch Kelsier today instead of marv. Kelsier is defending himself. Marv has gone afk. Yes cause if he's town he wants us to lose right now to make me look like a shitter. Or he's busy and will come back in full fighting mode. But for now, I want reasons that aren't related to activity, Why not lynch Kelsier?
What happened to following the flow chart? What happened to your desire to lynch marv? Why are you suddenly having second doubts?
Marv has pushed nothing strongly. He's on the lynching pole and he's not here. That's all the evidence you need.
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It seems like you've just gotten a crazy idea in your head and you're looking for ways to prove it rather than actually looking at it objectively. You want to be right so badly you see clues in everything when they can just as easily if not more so explained from a town perspective.
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On January 17 2015 00:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It seems like you've just gotten a crazy idea in your head and you're looking for ways to prove it rather than actually looking at it objectively. You want to be right so badly you see clues in everything when they can just as easily if not more so explained from a town perspective. What was Kelsier's point of asking you for a read on DrH and ritoky when you already gave it before? What was the point of him being suspicious of you when you were already voting the same target?
He probably asked it to me because he saw me, figured there had been talk about ritoky and Dr.H before without checking my filter first. Spur of the moment thing.
I'm voting the same target as you are yet you're suspicious of me. What gives?
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On January 17 2015 00:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 17 2015 00:26 Vivax wrote:On January 17 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It seems like you've just gotten a crazy idea in your head and you're looking for ways to prove it rather than actually looking at it objectively. You want to be right so badly you see clues in everything when they can just as easily if not more so explained from a town perspective. What was Kelsier's point of asking you for a read on DrH and ritoky when you already gave it before? What was the point of him being suspicious of you when you were already voting the same target? He probably asked it to me because he saw me, figured there had been talk about ritoky and Dr.H before without checking my filter first. Spur of the moment thing. I'm voting the same target as you are yet you're suspicious of me. What gives? There is no point in asking you that question without reading your filter first if his purpose was to get a better read on you like he claimed lately. It gives that I noticed all this stuff rereading D1, Kelsier is scummy as hell, and you didn't further inquire on him when I pointed out that he asked for your read on DrH and ritoky.
Or he asked that question, then checks my filter to see if it makes sense. Or if he's scum he's just saying it to look good. I'm not saying Kelsier is not scum, I'm saying that connecting him to me makes fuck all sense.
I did further inquire on it. I asked him a bunch of questions on it. I just didn't go back to that specific time before asking him those questions.
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On January 17 2015 00:33 Vivax wrote:
And Kelsier asked you for a read on ritoky while calling DrH supertown but not giving any statement on ritoky.
So if Kelsier asked anyone else for a read on someone he hadn't given a read on himself yet they're scum too?
Let's see how many people I can get into your scumteam.
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On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 16:10 sicklucker wrote:
Its weird because its either
a. scummy because of why I just said
b. A way to find a town for people who have played with him alot and know he does this.
Can we kill ritoky so far hes attacked doctor and missed the sarcasm and now this. sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor? you have a huge town read on doctor at that point?
Guess SL's scum since he hadn't given a statement on those two yet.
On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game?
I guess Lazer is scum because he hadn't given reads on most of the "other players in the game" yet.
Wait, that means we have 4 scum left because I'm scum with Kelsier, SL and Lazermonkey. Guess Slam must've messed up in the role PM's.
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On January 17 2015 00:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 00:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:First post by Kelsier: On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote:On December 31 2014 16:10 sicklucker wrote:
Its weird because its either
a. scummy because of why I just said
b. A way to find a town for people who have played with him alot and know he does this.
Can we kill ritoky so far hes attacked doctor and missed the sarcasm and now this. sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor? you have a huge town read on doctor at that point? Guess SL's scum since he hadn't given a statement on those two yet. On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game? I guess Lazer is scum because he hadn't given reads on most of the "other players in the game" yet. Wait, that means we have 4 scum left because I'm scum with Kelsier, SL and Lazermonkey. Guess Slam must've messed up in the role PM's. Are you kidding me? SL was calling ritoky scum at that point and Kels focuses on the DrH townread. While Kelsier doesn't ask Lazer about ritoky in specific.
The point I'm trying to make is that making an association based on a question on someone he hadn't made a statement about yet himself is absolutely idiotic. How does Kelsier being lazy on checking my filter make ME scum? It's tin foil hatesque.
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Are you seriously lynching KSC over Marv even if Marv doesn't make a single post today?
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Why would I vote a 95% scum over a 100% scum?
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There is no way Marv is town if he doesn't come back. Absolutely no way.
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You seem to have forgotten that he listed me as Town there too.
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Vivax I don't know why you're scumreading me for Kelsier commenting on my townread but not ritoky when I literally softdefended ritoky in that post. It's like your reasons for scumreading me are purposefully bad.
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Like I think I could do a better job making a scumcase on myself than you and I know I'm town.
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On January 17 2015 01:02 Vivax wrote:
Yes but Artanis, you should have to agree on Kelsier being scum here and yet don't want to lynch him for the pure reason that marv isn't playing, in spite of all the evidence posted.
I want to lynch Kelsier! Why don't you?
Marv isn't playing means he's 100% scum.
Kelsier playing very scummily means he's 95% scum.
Why would I lynch 95% scum over 100% scum? If you can convince me of that I might vote for Kelsier.
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So who should we be lynching today and why?
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That's a very convincing argument.
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About 15 pages are about Kelsier and why he's mafia, 1 page about why Vivax is mafia, and ~4 Tin Foil Hat Vivax pages.
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You've decided I'm not scum after all Vivax?
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If you can find even one mafia and make a better case on him than there is on yourself that'd be most helpful.
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If for some bizarre reason we decide to spare you today and lynch Kelsier instead can we expect a better effort the next day or are you just going to afk again?
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