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Artanis[Xp]
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Take a picture of yourself wearing two glasses. | ||
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That's actually not too farfetched tbh. Maybe we should lynch him just in case Slam did. | ||
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On January 14 2015 10:35 Palmar wrote: okay, Jesus told me to lynch LM This is final. good night ## vote Lazermonkey It actually worries me how many people are suddenly willing to vote LM. | ||
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Chart is irrelevant. Vivax is town. I wish it were different. | ||
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35 page filter and he has reads you just can't make up as scum. You just can't. | ||
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On January 14 2015 10:38 KelsierSC wrote: So what is your town and mafia artanis? I know you are confused but I want to know who you feel good/bad about This is the list of people we're not lynching this game: Me Vivax Chezinu SL Damdred if one of GB/LM flips scum. LM if Damdred flips scum This is the list of people I'm questioning: Damdred if GB/LM don't flip scum (but at that point we've lost so probably before that) Palmar Marvellosity KelsierSC LM GB I think I want to lynch GB the most out of the list right now just because of how easily the bandwagon on LM formed as soon as he went offline. | ||
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On January 14 2015 10:51 sicklucker wrote: You know we can just lynch both (and I probably will) if we hit on both gb and Lm. If you think vivax is town how are gb and lm ever town in this game? One could be town if two of Kelsier/Palmar/Marv are scum. | ||
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On January 14 2015 10:56 KelsierSC wrote: Artanis what does your heart tell you right now I think out of the suspects I've named you're the least likely to be scum as the main reason for scumreading you is your disappearance and a few minor things throughout the game. It's also a bit of PoE. I know I don't want to lynch Marv today because 36 page filter and he cares about not getting lynched which he hasn't in his last few games. I know I don't want to lynch Damdred today because he doesn't make sense to be scum with two of my other suspects and there's things I've pointed out before. He was also quite persistent in our argument about his LM read changing in strength. It was an annoying but ultimately acceptable defense. Reasons I want to lynch Palmar have been scattered throughout the thread. Main reasons are I can think of a fair scum narrative for his play and the town narrative is more difficult to understand. His play has been erratic; not good and not bad, which exactly fits his scum meta. He's also been busy with lists rather than making keen observations, which he's only done a few times (and occasionally rescinded). Palmar also made this case on GB that smelled like someone whom had an initial idea for a case but couldn't find enough evidence to support what he wanted to, so he modified it over something that was actually quite trivial. What makes me doubt is that somewhere there's a feel of genuineness in his play and all the mentions about postgame give me the feeling he would actually laugh at me in the postgame and that would make me sad. However, post-game mockery shouldn't be an argument. Reasons I want to lynch GB are, amongst other things that I feel his reasoning has been mostly shallow. Does lots of things on feelings which are easy to fake as they don't require an explanation. He didn't have opinions on the biggest wagons on D2, plus he defended Superbia. Then there was the thing where he claimed if SL was town everyone on Batsnacks was probably town when he still suspected me, which brings me to the point that it feels like he's had too much information. He seemed to know Geript was town when no one did. He seemed to know I was town despite suspecting me. It's troubling. Point in his favour is the case Palmar made on him which also felt like a case of TMI. Should Palmar flip scum, I'd expect GB to be town. Doubly so now that GB has voted for him. LM, well, there's plenty to go around. I'm just going to go and quote Damdred's case. On January 09 2015 02:49 Damdred wrote: I think Lazer is scum, here is my case repeated on him Day 1 he is guilty of the same things he goes hard after chy because of thread sentiment. He moves his target around using thread sentimen He misrepresents things constantly in the thread and back tracks constantly D2 he hard defends a push to lynch Superbia (known mafia now) He states d3 that he thinks ritoky is the cop and won't lycn an un cc'd cop but his vote is on him anyway He states during the day that Super looks bad but shouldn't be the lynch. Right before he leaves he parks his vote on Superbia, with his main scum read whos been vocal about wanting a super bia lynch. I think his vote looks more like a bus and hes mafia to me. He has stepped it up in the past two days, but then instead of voting for his main scumread, GB, he parked his vote on Marv. Problem with his lynch is that lots of unconfirmeds are voting him. So out of all this, I think my preferred lynch is still Palmar. Feel free to debate it though. | ||
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Throughout the game he's been waffling hardcore on Marvellosity. It wasn't until he was on the lynching block, and then even only on the second day that he truly went after Marv after a series of weird interactions. Suddenly, he decided Marv was scum when he was still undecided the day before and nothing had happened in between. His cases on both GB and Damdred fit into the lazy 5-7 score play that Mafia Palmar usually goes for. He figured he made his point, decided upon an alignment and called it a day without looking further. I think it's likely that a town Palmar would put in more effort to discern people's alignments than that. | ||
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On January 14 2015 11:22 GlowingBear wrote: Art, I can understand him parking his vote on marv as I've already explained. His wagon was easily formed and from that wagon, I HATED how KSC easily jumped on it. I can't see why Palmar, who said he would lynch damdred, refuses to do so, and parks his vote on LM, WITH MARV, HIS MAIN SCUMREAD, AGAIN (he voted with marv day3). Does it make sense to you? Like, in the risk of being lynched, he decides to NOT VOTE ONE OF HIS SCUMREADS (Damdred) but votes someone he didn't even had a read (LM) with his MAIN SCUMREAD? I can see a scum Palmar and Damdred team for sure. Their relationship has been odd at best. Palmar's had a lot of odd relationships this game. | ||
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On January 14 2015 11:27 Damdred wrote: But would mafia!Palmar sit back when hes up for lynch and can get Damdred out and go ok, maybe we can work together. And ask me for reads, and decide not to go for me? Would he re-evaluate like that? If you're scum with him, yes. If you're town, it seems the lynch on you never really took off. Even if he jumped on you, there were a few other people reading him town. If Palmar is scum and you're town the people who called you town are probably town too as that would motivate him not to try and risk exposing his team. | ||
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On January 14 2015 11:30 Vivax wrote: Artanis, I'd lynch GB before I lynch Palmar at this point. Although the information argument would be tempting, but I prefer to sheep DP than lynch a guy for information. I think Palmar is a better case than GB. I also don't think Palmar and GB can be scum together. What don't you like about my case? What do you disagree with? | ||
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On January 14 2015 11:35 Vivax wrote: That Palmar actually tried this hard and sacrificed two or three hours of his sleep to get his points across. A scum just posts his wifomy shit and goes to be thinking "W/e I still got two teammates". Unless he really needed 3 hours to plant a lot of wifom, but I doubt it. Also that his reads coincided with mine for a good part. I think that's a good point, but the flip scum side to it is that this game has clearly been at least a decent game for scum with lots of effort put into it. I don't think anyone is under 15 pages at this point. Even a scum Palmar would feel some obligation to try his damnest, and he was feeling the heat when he was going to bed. | ||
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