EPTOn November 02 2014 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
You really can't understand what is scummy about him lying?
You really can't understand what is scummy about him lying?
I don't understand why scum would tell such an easily verifiable lie.
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ObiWanShinobi
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I don't understand why scum would tell such an easily verifiable lie. | ||
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On November 02 2014 03:59 GlowingBear wrote: But do you understand why a town would lie about having notes instead of just saying he was answering a question? He slipped. He wasn't invested into finding scum. That's all. I don't know how you jump from "lying about notes" to "not scumhunting." That is a fairly remarkable leap. | ||
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On November 02 2014 04:06 GlowingBear wrote: ... 2 separate things. 1) he is lying, BOOM 2) he post an analysis why someone is town but couldn't analyse why someone is scum, so... Not scum hunting BOOM 1) It doesn't matter because it's not indicative. 2) So how does that make him scum in this circumstance? I don't understand how having a strong townread makes him scum if he doesn't have a strong scumread. I just don't see the point you're trying to make. | ||
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I don't want to have to go on another posting spree that ends with me posting 22 pages of shit and getting pissed off at everyone. | ||
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This game is going to be really fucking annoying. | ||
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On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote: I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? | ||
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I will be back in some time to see if I've completely lost my mind or not. | ||
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On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote: Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough. I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad. And it was. | ||
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On November 02 2014 11:53 ritoky wrote: I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me". And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing? You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1. I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia." It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome. | ||
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Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum." So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess. | ||
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On November 02 2014 13:49 Holyflare wrote: You have given absolutely no reason why they are bad in the slightest so don't act like you have Yes I have. You even quoted them. @JB: I'm not sure. Still BH probably, just for calling me mafia for generic stuff and not backing it up well enough I guess. I haven't really looked at his posts in depth yet, so I'll probably do that in the morning or something. | ||
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The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428 The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either. I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/ | ||
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On November 02 2014 14:43 Holyflare wrote: You literally are giving 0 reasons why lying about notes is a towny thing and instead only giving an example that a cop did it one time when presumably he had a red check which is impossible here. Nothing you said makes any sense on why you gave that read when a guy had lied at that present time and extended time to quantify his lie. I never gave a read on him. I said the case was bad. | ||
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I just don't feel like his notes are relevant and I feel like you're making a mountain out of a molehill. | ||
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On November 02 2014 14:51 Holyflare wrote: You can't come up with any reason whatsoever why it's town motivated. At all. There's no reason to call it bad unless you have a distinct reason why he witheld his notes was towny. You don't. You're scum. I'm not saying it's town motivated. I'm saying it's not relevant. I don't know how you can discern the motivation behind something that convoluted, and I feel like drawing any kind of conclusion from it is somewhat far fetched. I don't see how batsnacks not posting his notes and being a cop with a red check is so different from this game, either. | ||
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