EPTOn October 11 2014 21:41 Palmar wrote:
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You still claiming not 3p?
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Holyflare
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You still claiming not 3p? | ||
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Palmar
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yes, and for the love of god please just check me tonight. | ||
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Alakaslam
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I am back and all I have to say is if I am incoherent, too bad as I am not trying to be I basically have very weak reads. People always think this is scummy but that is bs; you saw that when I was in thread with folks I could see and point and do like anyone else. But retrospective, I am notoriously wrong. Always. I can't successfully filter dive, so I dont. At the moment I have been anti HF most of the game but he and BH got this, it could be a perfect towngame at this point. Do as they say. If they disagree, I would have to side with HF. | ||
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StorrZerg
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@liam you should write a will. cause you might die kthx | ||
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Damdred
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StorrZerg
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like it kinda depends on what happens tonight. ill write up a quick list post to re evaluate where im at. | ||
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Damdred
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On October 11 2014 14:15 Damdred wrote: Would mafia say this when their is a legit chance to get a lynch on someone else at the eod? I am seriously considering a world where lian is not the mafia righ tnow look at this, it gives me pause there was still a decent chance that people could of gotten off hopeless and he didn't jump on hopeless.... thats why I think we should start thinking elsewhere or at least talking about it elsewhere | ||
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StorrZerg
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3. Palmer 5. Alakaslam would lynch because not doing anything. He was also on obi which is - points for him. 6. Grackaroni wouldn't consider tomorrow as a claimed vig. 7. liancourt #lynchwithfire 8. KelsierSC agree with a lot of the comments lately about him. I think the most recent lynch makes him look worse. Before this i felt he seemed reasonable with how he interjected in the game. Glancing at his filter and looking at when he mentions the 2 lynches and how often, his lack of discussion on h1 is kinda odd, while he keeps tons of focus on obi. (and pushing obi). probably need to reread closer but early in the game he had a town read on obi, and then it changed. 9. batsnacks would lynch. don't think he is actually doing anything. i did town read him for his "trap bait" what not. him going back to h1 matters a bit near the end. he still is probably town, just not worth trying to talk to. 10. Holyflare town 11. BlazingHand I think bh looks worse atm, not bad enough to be lynched day 3, the whole deal with him trying to convince me to vote obi based off day 1, and not evolving his read is a bit disturbing. specially since he said obi hadn't done anything that scummy n1/d2. 13. ObiWanShinobi still think he is town, pushed on him being town. was ready to insure he wasn't lynched over h1. | ||
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Holyflare
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palmar, slam, snacks to an extent (maybe) im rbing kelsier, check him, shoot liam maybe, look at what i said about kelsier but also remember the funky oo thing from lian and the not being on hopeless or obi despite wanting the convo to end about 2 of them (probably didn't want to vote a team mate), don't count damd out because of hopeless they needed to do crazy stuff after being down a player day 1 so a bus is really plausible and he could have made a case on his team mate thinking that it was easy to push scummy things on someone who is actually scum but i think damd is after kelsier/lian tbh | ||
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Alakaslam
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On October 12 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote: stupid thing about 3p's is more often than not they look towny Truth; day 1 and n1 I decided to assume I was poisoner to see what would happen and BOOM! Townreads In fact I think that little experiment just made my townplay. But ultimately I do need to make decisions and look for scum. Heigh-ho. My best bet for scum would have to be batsnacks or Liancourt. Not particularly scummy on either though. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On October 08 2014 06:36 KelsierSC wrote: Alright I have work early tomorrow so going to give my reads in brief form as they stand and post my vote. Town Grak - happy entry to the thread, gave insightful comments on BH, was paying close attention to obi enough to catch him in a "slip" Storr - Seemed town early with his lian pressure, seems very focused on him, excellent post damning lian which I pretty much 100% agreed with. Ala - I like how he pointed out how HF just stepped in and started flinging at oats, had a null on obi at a time when that was correct . Early town read but that is how my D1 works. Dam - Seems to be like his D1 last game when he was town, could be more active though BH - RNG was dumb but it worked out and mentioning how OO responded to it felt towny, Grak thinks he is town. BS - Liked the early Bats trap Oats - seemed genuinely frustrated with bats in a town way Obi - good entry and asked good questions to formulate reads, seemed genuinely pissed off with HF attacking him. Not happy with his reads of grak, HF and hope but I think he is just pissed off with grak and HF so OMGUS Null Hope - Didn't like his early play but seemed to have a good early read of lian. HF - Think some of my town called him town, don't like that he has pushed on people I called town. Could be eager beaver, misguided town. Could be scum Scum OO - got caught with the RNG, awkward posted and fucked off Lian - everyone is null, wanted to lynch dama/storr over OO. Palmar - inactive, lazy, think his reads are false. Day1 you seemed to feel Hopeless was pretty scummy and you gave a town read to obi because he questioned dam/lian On October 08 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote: Alright caught up with the thread, I thought OO would have put up more of a vote than that. First thing I am changing Palmar to town for now. To me everyone who voted on obi is town, I don't think mafia had any chance of getting a counter wagon started so it made more sense to just stick on OO and try and gain credibility. I thought Obi was scummy around the voting stage, he left his weird vote on HF, yeh we get it you are annoyed with him but like that amount of omgus is just bad for town. He then tried to get something going on palmar but was then instantly like "oh only joking, lol lol" Also seemed depressed after we lynched mafia but that may have been because it turns out HF is vig. I know where I want to focus tomorrow but I think I will leave that till the day phase begins. Your reasoning here doesn't make much sense to me and doesn't really seem good enough to warrant a full flip-flop on your reads. You argue mafia didn't have much of a chance to start a counter wagon so they would probably vote Obi for towncred, thus you town read me/Palmar/Batsnacks for being on a counter wagon. However, in your mind Obi also tried to start a counter wagon on Palmar rather than just sit back and say nothing but that makes him scummy? Leaving a vote on HF was understandable in your earlier read of Obi because he was annoyed at HF but now you think that Obi leaving his vote on HF is scummy. It really feels like you were just taking advantage of the thread sentiment against obi started by Blazinghand rather than making your own read. Throughout all of day 2 even though Hopeless was the main wagon for the day you didn't give an opinion on anything in his filter and just said that he's town because obi is pushing him, which I think was an incredibly scummy way to avoid addressing Hopeless. You even said you would be scum reading Hopeless if it wasn't for Obi pushing him. I would have expected some sort of attempt to interact with Hopeless. | ||
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KelsierSC
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On October 12 2014 03:54 Grackaroni wrote: Ok thoughts on KSC Day1 you seemed to feel Hopeless was pretty scummy and you gave a town read to obi because he questioned dam/lian Your reasoning here doesn't make much sense to me and doesn't really seem good enough to warrant a full flip-flop on your reads. You argue mafia didn't have much of a chance to start a counter wagon so they would probably vote Obi for towncred, thus you town read me/Palmar/Batsnacks for being on a counter wagon. However, in your mind Obi also tried to start a counter wagon on Palmar rather than just sit back and say nothing but that makes him scummy? Leaving a vote on HF was understandable in your earlier read of Obi because he was annoyed at HF but now you think that Obi leaving his vote on HF is scummy. It really feels like you were just taking advantage of the thread sentiment against obi started by Blazinghand rather than making your own read. Throughout all of day 2 even though Hopeless was the main wagon for the day you didn't give an opinion on anything in his filter and just said that he's town because obi is pushing him, which I think was an incredibly scummy way to avoid addressing Hopeless. You even said you would be scum reading Hopeless if it wasn't for Obi pushing him. I would have expected some sort of attempt to interact with Hopeless. Yep initially I had a town read of obi early d1. But if you look at why I read him as scum it is for reasons around the votes on d1 and his actions d2. So that isn't a contradiction. I gave good reasons why I thought obi was scum. My point is that everyone who voted on obi d1 was probably town or not mafia because there was never going to be a counter wagon. So people who voted obi did it because they are town and because they legitimately found him scummy. I thought mafia just voted OO to gain cred. They knew he would flip scum. If you ask why do I want to lynch obi as he didn't vote on OO, I explained this before. The situation didn't apply to him because there was a lot of pressure on him. It looks really fucking scummy to just vote OO and switch off hf as soon as people start pressuring him. In that case not voting OO didn't clear him, he could either vote OO and look scummy for the late switch or just keep his vote on hf. I don't think at any stage I just agreed with someone's read on obi. I was leading the lynch on obi d2 , I examined him carefully and provided an excellent case against him Like I said the only reason I didn't vote hope is because I was convinced obi was scum and he did nothing to convince me otherwise. | ||
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