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On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:33 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:32 Holyflare wrote:
I really want to lynch obi so show me you're town hope /s get fcked  Y u do dis? because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town. So if we're not lynching damd who else is there? I dont even know anymore. storr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw. why you no help to lynch liam if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty.
what changed regarding liam.
I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam?
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On October 11 2014 11:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.) Obi why did you write this day 1 but then day 2 say hopeless' filter looks like classic mafia?
Because early on in day 1, he was questioning you with me so he looked okay at the time.
Later on, I went back and looked at his filter after everything that had happened. Lots of filler and instigating. Classic mafia. And then I proved he made up reasons to townread people.
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On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:33 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:32 Holyflare wrote:
I really want to lynch obi so show me you're town hope /s get fcked Y u do dis? because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town. So if we're not lynching damd who else is there? I dont even know anymore. storr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw. why you no help to lynch liam if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty. what changed regarding liam. I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam?
unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch.
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On October 11 2014 11:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:48 Holyflare wrote:Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.) Obi why did you write this day 1 but then day 2 say hopeless' filter looks like classic mafia? Because early on in day 1, he was questioning you with me so he looked okay at the time. Later on, I went back and looked at his filter after everything that had happened. Lots of filler and instigating. Classic mafia. And then I proved he made up reasons to townread people.
What are your townreads and why?
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On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:33 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:32 Holyflare wrote:
I really want to lynch obi so show me you're town hope /s get fcked Y u do dis? because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town. So if we're not lynching damd who else is there? I dont even know anymore. storr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw. why you no help to lynch liam if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty. what changed regarding liam. I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam? unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch.
could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth?
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On October 11 2014 11:53 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 11 2014 11:48 Holyflare wrote:Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.) Obi why did you write this day 1 but then day 2 say hopeless' filter looks like classic mafia? Because early on in day 1, he was questioning you with me so he looked okay at the time. Later on, I went back and looked at his filter after everything that had happened. Lots of filler and instigating. Classic mafia. And then I proved he made up reasons to townread people. What are your townreads and why?
I don't negotiate with terrorists.
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On October 11 2014 11:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:53 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 11 2014 11:48 Holyflare wrote:Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.) Obi why did you write this day 1 but then day 2 say hopeless' filter looks like classic mafia? Because early on in day 1, he was questioning you with me so he looked okay at the time. Later on, I went back and looked at his filter after everything that had happened. Lots of filler and instigating. Classic mafia. And then I proved he made up reasons to townread people. What are your townreads and why? I don't negotiate with terrorists.
hey obi can i get a quick run down, spark notes of your town reads kthx
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Obi seriously fucking do it or i will lynch you, there's no time for your playing coy and withholding reads because of no reason, explain your shit.
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There could be 3kp tomorrow btw
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I hope ypu claim blue hopeless :/
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if you're town leave something like a gravestone so we can look at it when you're dead. having reads from confirmed town is more credible than any of the fluff people alive post. If obi isn't pressured enough to make his gravestone I'm willing to vote to add that pressure so he has motivation to make a last town read.
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On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
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/s get fcked Y u do dis? because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town. So if we're not lynching damd who else is there? I dont even know anymore. s,torr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw. why you no help to lynch liam if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty. what changed regarding liam. I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam? unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch. could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth?
You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy.
Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him.
Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me.
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On October 11 2014 11:59 Holyflare wrote:
I hope ypu claim blue hopeless :/
i wont bc im not. you wouldnt believe me if i did anyways.
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Where's obi gone, where is slam? Where is damd?
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On October 11 2014 12:06 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote:[quote] Y u do dis? because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town. So if we're not lynching damd who else is there? I dont even know anymore. s,torr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw. why you no help to lynch liam if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty. what changed regarding liam. I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam? unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch. could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth? You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy. Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him. Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me.
i think my vote on damdred is far sufficient on pushing him, What else can I do when the big debate of today is between you and obi. And me pushing obi now will mean a tie but i want this debate over so I can move on to lynching damdred.
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Lian how can you say you want the debate over but then vote for the tie....?
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On October 11 2014 12:06 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote:[quote] Y u do dis? because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town. So if we're not lynching damd who else is there? I dont even know anymore. s,torr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw. why you no help to lynch liam if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty. what changed regarding liam. I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam? unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch. could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth? You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy. Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him. Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me.
ok sure.
but don't see see liam as an actual option to be lynched over damd today? i mean i know we only have 45 mins left... but yeah...
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Fucks sake, this is the most annoying game ever. I hate having to explain everything 50 times.
Palmar: Null. I explained why I thought he could be mafia earlier with Damdred, because I'm still pretty sure Hopeless is scum and the only person at the time trying to derail the lynch on him was BH/Kelsier. He hasn't really put a whole lot of effort into the game and it makes him really annoying to read, but he isn't voting me and fucking off. Idk. I'm tempted to call him town just for voting with me and not jumping down my throat but that's it.
And no, I'm not actually going to CFD him today.
Holyflare: Town. I explained this before. He was townreading me when it would've been really easy to jump down my throat before and his reads are evolving in tangent with the thread as a whole. I have no reason to believe this guy is scum this game.
Kelsier: Null. On one hand, it would be really hard for him to fabricate this kind of tunnel for this long without slipping or whatnot, and he's being really bullheaded about it in spite of all evidence to the contrary. On the other hand...He refuses to read the Hopeless case and keeps calling it bad for bad reasons.
BH: Town. He actually read Hopeless and still considers lynching him, proving that he's actually reading the thread and shows that he's capable of picking out problem posts from other players. Still wants to lynch me, but I'm still sure this is in part due to jubbery.
Storr: Town. Saying a lot of smart stuff, IE "I know where Obi is coming from when he says this stuff and I refuse to believe some storyline about derailing a lynch because of whatever the fuck BH is saying."
Damdred: Town. Everything he says is well-explained and I don't see any discrepancies in his play whatsoever. I don't see a single reason to read this guy as scum.
Grackaroni: Town lean. Voted Hopeless and sees the problem with BH's case. I don't really know much about him aside from voting with me; it doesn't seem like he's had a whole lot of impact on what's going on at the moment, but I see him around poking fun at stuff. At least he's voting correctly.
Lian/Slam: Null. Really have no idea what to make of these two. None. I already talked about Lian before and I really don't want to take him out soon because I don't particularly like the case on him in the sense that I think it makes him mafia. I'd like to call Slam town because of his energy but that's it.
Batsnacks: Town. Seems pretty carefree at times but he's serious when he wants to figure something out. He's had a series of posts where he tries to reason stuff out, which I've always considered to be a strong indication of someone being town.
Hopeless: Scum. I've explained why. Funny part? Instead of defending himself against my accusation, he tries to stall for time by forcing me to give my townreads, and this is after he spent all game calling people town for no reason.
I'm not sure if I forgot anybody but I'm in a hurry, seeing as how we asked me for this shit right next to deadline.
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On October 11 2014 12:12 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 12:06 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
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because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town. So if we're not lynching damd who else is there? I dont even know anymore. s,torr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw. why you no help to lynch liam if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty. what changed regarding liam. I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam? unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch. could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth? You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy. Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him. Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me. i think my vote on damdred is far sufficient on pushing him, What else can I do when the big debate of today is between you and obi. And me pushing obi now will mean a tie but i want this debate over so I can move on to lynching damdred.
Doing the far more important part when it comes to lynching mafia.
step 1, find scum suspect (check)
step 2, convince people to lynch scum suspect. (which you have not done all game regarding any of your scum suspects)
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