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Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 04 2014 15:47 GMT
#23
/in
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 14:42:37
August 07 2014 14:26 GMT
#45
On August 07 2014 09:43 Amiko wrote:
You know the balance of this game better than me (I haven't even played it) but although mafia won the last two games won't this game be even more difficult for town since mafia can kill one of the four people in the cell?
Feel free to not talk about this until after the game though, I'll play it either way ^^ and I don't want to put you as a host in a position where you need to talk about strategy before the game begins. And I have only lightly skimmed prior games so I'm sure we can even things out with smart town play :D

Having a given 2v1 seems pretty good for town to me.
On top of that Mafia has the massive disadvantage to just be given 3 names they have to work with. Yes in the end they can get rid of one but that still leaves two townies they have to adress and mafia can no longer focus on a handful of people their players want to go after. That's a lot easier than having to make up something about every single player in the game.
At the same time it does give the game a structure that benefits town in that it reduces chaos but at the same time limits town as they have to lynch within those 3 and can't lynch someone else who's super scummy.

In the end I'd say it's a buff for town. Not sure how big of a buff.

But it's obviously my first game and I've only come to that conclusion by comparing things to the guide I read. So take it with a grain of salt.
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 11 2014 19:30 GMT
#89
On August 12 2014 01:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't even remember which smurf is who anymore.

Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 13 2014 12:57 GMT
#133
now to figure out which of those smurfs that just recently signed up for this game belongs to what player that just recently went ahead to quit because of some convoluted reason.
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 13 2014 14:54 GMT
#135
On August 13 2014 22:16 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 21:57 Professor Apathy wrote:
now to figure out which of those smurfs that just recently signed up for this game belongs to what player that just recently went ahead to quit because of some convoluted reason.


It's a break. Not quitting. I am still going to form some insane games with amiko and glowingbear that will make you guys shed tears. But just that my schedule now is shit and I cant really afford to play mafia games. You don't want an afk townie for 15 hours a day, ya?

I just used the word quit to refrain from using another certain 3 letter word that might have shown up on any ctrl+f from hosts to not be confusing for them. There was no misunderstanding to begin with.
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 14 2014 15:57 GMT
#144
On August 07 2014 03:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh, and game isn't starting until the 18th at the earliest but that probably shouldn't be an issue given the signup speed.

you're welcome
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 16:33 GMT
#200
using that site has made me smarter, I have lynched more mafias on d1 and people just sheep me whenever I open my mouth. It really is that amazing. It even helped me getting into Marvs pants.
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#212
so what's group of Death?

A looks entertaining. B looks tough.
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 22:03 GMT
#221
Fear not for I am town an will murder all of mafia.
Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed!

##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 22:26 GMT
#229
On August 28 2014 07:17 batsnacks wrote:
*bats campaign*


but Mr Bat. I'm already running around the Kindergarten square 3 hours a day. People are starting to give me weird looks. Won't all your three mainpoints
  • Boost your strength training
  • Increase your sex drive
  • Maximize your sexual performance
only make it worse for people like me?
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 22:31 GMT
#238
On August 28 2014 07:27 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 07:26 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:17 batsnacks wrote:
*bats campaign*


but Mr Bat. I'm already running around the Kindergarten square 3 hours a day. People are starting to give me weird looks. Won't all your three mainpoints
  • Boost your strength training
  • Increase your sex drive
  • Maximize your sexual performance
only make it worse for people like me?


Voting BAT is only recommended for adults age 18+. Please check with your doctor before you begin voting BAT.

But I AM 18+... that's my point
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 22:45 GMT
#242
On August 28 2014 07:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 07:33 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:29 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Ritoky.... fuck your Freedom.

[image loading]


Just putting that out there boys


Everybody please welcome out first communist scum to the thread.

A slight against freedom, is a slight against the founding fathers, is a slight against democracy, meaning you're a commie scummer.


Nah, I just hate unorigianality.

you used it before, your freedom thing. Use something new. I'm bored.


You know what, for you. I will do just that. I realized that meapak has withdrawn from the game; so I don't have a murrica buddy anymore

new campaign coming shortly to a theater near you.


Insta mafia tactic! Please the town.

Immediate lynch coming.

if you vote for me instead of bat or ritoky I'll make sure group E will be the last group, meaning we don't actually have to do shit and laugh at all the other people who tryhard so much to survive this cruel game!
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 22:56 GMT
#245
On August 28 2014 07:52 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 07:45 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:33 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:29 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Ritoky.... fuck your Freedom.

[image loading]


Just putting that out there boys


Everybody please welcome out first communist scum to the thread.

A slight against freedom, is a slight against the founding fathers, is a slight against democracy, meaning you're a commie scummer.


Nah, I just hate unorigianality.

you used it before, your freedom thing. Use something new. I'm bored.


You know what, for you. I will do just that. I realized that meapak has withdrawn from the game; so I don't have a murrica buddy anymore

new campaign coming shortly to a theater near you.


Insta mafia tactic! Please the town.

Immediate lynch coming.

if you vote for me instead of bat or ritoky I'll make sure group E will be the last group, meaning we don't actually have to do shit and laugh at all the other people who tryhard so much to survive this cruel game!


you scared you gonna give yourself away as mafia early? a brave woman would never put herself last, such hiding types as yourself are women of the past. that mindset needs to go so that we can have proper treatment of women.

wouldn't I be more likely to give myself away somewhere along the lines when placed at the end if I were to be mafia?
Or does being placed at the end somehow give me the power to play better early on assuming I am mafia?
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 23:12 GMT
#251
On August 28 2014 07:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 07:45 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:33 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:29 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Ritoky.... fuck your Freedom.

[image loading]


Just putting that out there boys


Everybody please welcome out first communist scum to the thread.

A slight against freedom, is a slight against the founding fathers, is a slight against democracy, meaning you're a commie scummer.


Nah, I just hate unorigianality.

you used it before, your freedom thing. Use something new. I'm bored.


You know what, for you. I will do just that. I realized that meapak has withdrawn from the game; so I don't have a murrica buddy anymore

new campaign coming shortly to a theater near you.


Insta mafia tactic! Please the town.

Immediate lynch coming.

if you vote for me instead of bat or ritoky I'll make sure group E will be the last group, meaning we don't actually have to do shit and laugh at all the other people who tryhard so much to survive this cruel game!


I like you

But what about me being mayor?
I'm a cute little bunny!


fine with me. All I care about is group E being the last one... well and maybe Marvs group not being the first, I want him around either way so something like spot #4 for his group would be nice. If you can agree on that I will rally people behind me to ensure our next mayor is a cute, fluffy bunny despite the fact that you're actually more likely to be mafia than the other people (let's face it, I know my alignment thus you're 50/50 mafia and not 1/3).
But since mayor doesn't actually do anything might as well just yolo for personal entertainment

On August 28 2014 08:02 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 07:56 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:52 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:45 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:33 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:29 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Ritoky.... fuck your Freedom.

[image loading]


Just putting that out there boys


Everybody please welcome out first communist scum to the thread.

A slight against freedom, is a slight against the founding fathers, is a slight against democracy, meaning you're a commie scummer.


Nah, I just hate unorigianality.

you used it before, your freedom thing. Use something new. I'm bored.


You know what, for you. I will do just that. I realized that meapak has withdrawn from the game; so I don't have a murrica buddy anymore

new campaign coming shortly to a theater near you.


Insta mafia tactic! Please the town.

Immediate lynch coming.

if you vote for me instead of bat or ritoky I'll make sure group E will be the last group, meaning we don't actually have to do shit and laugh at all the other people who tryhard so much to survive this cruel game!


you scared you gonna give yourself away as mafia early? a brave woman would never put herself last, such hiding types as yourself are women of the past. that mindset needs to go so that we can have proper treatment of women.

wouldn't I be more likely to give myself away somewhere along the lines when placed at the end if I were to be mafia?
Or does being placed at the end somehow give me the power to play better early on assuming I am mafia?


why are you content with being a selfish coward? why wouldn't you do what is in the best interest of all women? these traits you are displaying are neither healthy for a mayor nor healthy for the future of women's rights.

actively stating you intend to place yourself at the end with 0 information in the thread is a selfish act of cowardice that i cannot get behind in any way shape or form. a mayor should do what is right and best for all women, not just herself. your lack of concern for other women makes me believe that you are a misogynist.

I don't care about what's best for you. I care about what's funny for me and thus keeps me playing because I know I'm town, point in case:

On August 28 2014 07:03 Professor Apathy wrote:
Fear not for I am town an will murder all of mafia.
Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed!

##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers

you can tell your democracy and "what's best for everyone" crap to other people. I don't intend to hide behind some majority that voted for me because "well but people thought that would be best, can't blame me!".

I intend to do what I consider to be good and won't hide behind some wall of majority driven whatever-it-is
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 23:20 GMT
#254
On August 28 2014 08:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 08:12 Professor Apathy wrote:
I don't care about what's best for you. I care about what's funny for me


Never vote for this person.

why not? I have not seen you bring up a better plan for how to arrange the groups. Mine at the very least promises that Marv is alive until 4th cycle and I can't shitstorm the thread because I don't have to defend myself. Everyone wins, I get to have fun and yet you don't seem to trash my idea without bringing something up yourself?
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 23:22 GMT
#255
On August 28 2014 08:20 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 08:15 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 08:12 Professor Apathy wrote:
I don't care about what's best for you. I care about what's funny for me


Never vote for this person.

why not? I have not seen you bring up a better plan for how to arrange the groups. Mine at the very least promises that Marv is alive until 4th cycle and I can't shitstorm the thread because I don't have to defend myself. Everyone wins, I get to have fun and yet you seem to trash my idea without bringing something up yourself?

EBWOP
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 23:45 GMT
#268
On August 28 2014 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 08:37 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
On August 28 2014 08:35 ritoky wrote:
On August 28 2014 08:33 Holyflare wrote:
Never vote ritoky after last cell where he made the worst cell order in existence. I'm not going to make a big mayor run post but artanis is a troll and made me town again so vote for me if you want. I'm just going to put the group with the most obvious mafia's first and if marv is town leave him or me 3/4/5 or something. Depends how fooked it looks.


my cell order was fine, the town just donkeyd it up and didn't listen to me when i called 4 of 5 mafia zzzzz they listened to you instead, and that got em to derptown.


No they didn't listen to me at all because they almost lynched me.


they listened to you when you stopped them from lynching the confirmed mafia in the first cell that we found about 25 seconds into the game


Excuse me while i ignore all your freedom shit all over again. You didn't push anything to stop mz getting lynched other than "he liked my freedom stuff". If you want to use that to really persuade everyone to vote for a non mafia go right ahead. I'm just not going to listen to you regardless and there are many other much more viable people that I'd rather vote over you.

you heard it here first. Holyflare supports my campaign. Support Professor Apathy/cutebunnies-whatever-her-name-was (sorry)

And no I'm not vivax. I'd be happy if you can leave me smurfing though, I already dropped more than enough info for people to figure out who I am if they only cared to look at it
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 23:54 GMT
#273
holyflare gets half a towniepoint. Only half a towniepoint because he's a thief
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 27 2014 23:58 GMT
#276
On August 28 2014 08:55 Amiko wrote:
initial thoughts from prior games-

I'd prefer to put Cell C (my cell) on Day 3 since Marv and Oats are experienced and hopefully will be active enough to have good filters to work with. Day 3 seems ideal to me because it means that there is more accountability for what they post (since one of us is flipped) and I am hoping you'll all see I'm town by then.
Day 4/5 is alright I guess because I think I make more use of filters/prior quotes than other players, so if I'm around longer it means more filter to use. But, 3 would be my pick.

I wouldn't mind Cell E going earlier because in the games I've read/played with her, ninjabunnies tends to be more active early game and less active on later days. lilwade has been lower-activity regardless of the game day. Dunno Apathy.

I'm not voting you, so much I am sure already. Maybe not quite on the level of how-much-I'm-not-voting-ritoky but go figure.
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 28 2014 00:11 GMT
#283
On August 28 2014 09:02 Amiko wrote:
@Apathy: Let's talk about which cell should go first. What player characteristics do you think are good to have in a first cell?

I'd put group D first, group A second, group B third, group C fourth, group E last.

There's 3 underlying principles here
1) Groups I don't mind having early, that would be group D and A. Nothing is lost if those are screwed up early
2) Groups I would like to have around later on, that's group B and C
3) Group E, I want to be last

So here's the reasoning:
I want D before A because A might end up in a shitstorm, so having D first gives us a more sensible start I think.
That leaves A for second.
Group B and C don't really have much all that much difference to them but I agree that C looks a bit more easy to judge and as such I want it on spot #4 to have marv around longer if he happens to be town. If he's not we ignore him just like we did in the invite game. Thus group C comes in spot #3
And Group E comes in spot #5 to have me in the last spot.

I highly doubt that reads are going to influence the order at all as I'm not willing to bet anything based on a 24hour read so I'd rather make it by things that are true and beneficial no matter of the alignments of any of the guys in there, like the fact that group A is going to be bloody horrible.
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