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On August 29 2014 14:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 14:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2014 14:29 Holyflare wrote:On August 29 2014 14:25 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2014 14:22 Holyflare wrote:
I don't even know how you can say "i don't know what on earth my town read is doing but he's town" but then not say he's misguided that's just silly. misguided adjective 1. misled; mistaken: Their naive actions were a misguided attempt to help the poor.Would you say BS is in some way mistaken in something he is doing? Dumb/weird/wtf is not misguided. Misguided is pushing a massive scum case on a towny as town. BS is not misguided. "you have no idea what I'm doing! " Super ultra secret batsnacks plan that only he knows about which will apparently help us win somehow if he's town which hasn't come into fruition at all. Seems like a naive action that is a misguided attempt to help the town to me. Seems like he's completely bullshitting to me. He's no rayn. And who uses bull shit.....? Mafia and misguided townies
Just not true at all.
You overcomplicate things so much.
Put simply, if you had to choose between batsnacks and BH (which is what your problem seems to be, dunno where ritoky fits in for you exactly) which is more likely scum?
The one who apparently slipped and has been spouting nothing but useless almost irrelevant mayoral strategy shit? The one trying to appear useful but isn't? Or the one spouting complete and utter nonsense and not appearing to be useful in the slightest (despite trying to tell everyone he is)?
Seems really fucking simple to me.
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On August 29 2014 14:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Therefore he has fun with it and is nowhere serious about getting votes.
How can you even call that a push to be mayor Wave?
I never did call it a push to be mayor...?
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On August 29 2014 14:39 Holyflare wrote:
But if you read the thread you already know what i think wave??
I saw that you maybe think ritoky is town but you never quite say so. By insinutating and process of elimiation, yes, but you don't ever explicitly say so.
CAN YOU STOP PHRASING EVERYTHING LIKE YOURE TRYING TO FUCKING TRAP ME
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On August 29 2014 14:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Yes you did wave dont lie.
The fuck are you even talking about?
You said you thought batsnacks is distracting people from doing stuff.
The only thing to do (aside from some preliminary scumhunting) D0/1 is do elect a mayor.
Therefore if you thought BS was distracting people you thought he was distracting town from the mayoral election, therefore being gung-ho about the mayoral spot.
I never once said I think batsnacks cared about getting mayor.
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On August 29 2014 14:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wave, why is BH 'slipping' scummy?
Please enlighten me so I can have a good chuckle.
Because pregame when not under pressure or under any sort of restriction he expresses exactly what he thinks and now for some reason it's magically the opposite?
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Is there something not scummy about it, Oats?
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On August 29 2014 14:46 Holyflare wrote:
I pretty clearly state why i ordered the groups like i did and ritoky was first because i thought he was towny and the other 2 weren't??
On August 29 2014 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
1) i guessed you were toad and you said you weren't so honestly don't know if it is or isn't and if it is i have no idea how you play town because I've played 1? Game with you and you were mafia with me.
2) i cared about the order of the first 3 groups hence why i set them out with you second. I thought ritoky group would be easy because ritoky was asking questions in right places (in regards to you talking about marv) and bh did weird entrance/bs being more weird. Your group i thought you were pretty towny so the group would be between bunnies and wade and one of those is not playing this game while playing another. Group D was smurfs and tambo and they were all mysteries bar not me. What tambo said rings true to me that nrhf could appear town day 1 to get a win for his cell so leaving him 3rd was better than first or second because he is most likely to fall off whereas the other reads are based more on facts. That left me to choose between marvs group and mine and like i said, my group is 50/50 from my mayor pov and one of the other people in my group stated correctly that his pm was town. Apparently though mm1 can be this non useful as town so maybe wave got told pm's by artanis in which case it doesn't matter. I'm also not very good at reading oats and amiko looked ok to me for a while which made marv a question mark but he's started to look more towny soooo here we are
This is the only post where you talk about that at all and you don't really talk about ritoky being towny, though by PoE like I said the way you talk about BS/BH I have to assume as such.
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HF I just thought of something.
What is your read on amiko?
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Actually that question goes for Oats and marv too when they get back.
Want to know what they think of amiko right now as well.
Mebbe rest of thread too but not as important.
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On August 29 2014 14:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +2) i cared about the order of the first 3 groups hence why i set them out with you second. I thought ritoky group would be easy because ritoky was asking questions in right places (in regards to you talking about marv) and bh did weird entrance/bs being more weird. I think that it's pretty evident that the guy asking the right questions in a cell i put first because it should be easy would be my town read?? :s I know Amiko is a very good player and i haven't seen him play mafia but his style so far has looked like I've seen him play previously (although i think i said when i was coaching him his style would be easy to replicate as mafia i think?) I'm not too bothered seeing as he's last cell and has ample time to show his alignment
I didn't ask what his mafia game looks like or what his style is.
If you had to give a read on amiko right now what would it be?
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On August 29 2014 15:09 Holyflare wrote:
I mean what i said was a good read anyway so i don't know why you aren't happy with just that. I don't know.
lol in what world is what you said about amiko a good read?
What are you afraid of HF?
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On August 29 2014 14:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wave, why is BH 'slipping' scummy?
Please enlighten me so I can have a good chuckle.
And Oats I don't see you laughing.
Going to bed.
Wouldn't mind answers to those outstanding questions for when I get back.
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Marv why did you ever think amiko was scum?
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And you thought it possible for him to be bussing BH until recently?
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Because aside from amiko's posting actually being good, I don't see him completely nailing BH to the wall with a slip. He's not me.
Like even were BH to come back and fight, you don't come back from hard evidence like that. Just seems really weird to me that you could be reading amiko as scum at all despite that.
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On August 30 2014 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
it doesn't nail him to the wall (although obviously it doesn't look good), and I could see that.
shrug. What you find weird about me Wave, I don't really care :>
No doubt.
Especially since you're last.
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And amiko I'll get to your stuff in a sec
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On August 30 2014 01:58 Holyflare wrote:
Is this the famous oats with too much information? Looks like it is to me.
I'm not following this.
You think Oats has TMI and is scum, and so is saying BH is town?
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On August 30 2014 00:33 Amiko wrote:@WaveofShadow: Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 13:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Do you think apathy or marv are scum? Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 14:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
If marv's was a defence then it's purely chainsaw because he barely makes mention of MM1 at all. So yes, intriguing I suppose especially since he took back the 'bolded' comment after.
As far as amiko I read him pretty strongly as town so far, though I should ask (if you're still here amiko)---you seem to have more to say regarding MM1 than anyone else so far especially since you're not even in his cell. What's the deal with that?
I don't actually feel like I have said (or have much) to say on MM1 yet - basically, I just feel like he'd be the easiest target in your group because he doesn't scream town when he's town. Since there was sentiment that your cell was solved, I wanted to point out that it may not be so easy. I haven't actually reviewed MM's games though, so what Holyflare was saying regarding his posting style may be correct, I probably won't look at MM's history until later in the game though. I mention this because I figure that among marv & oats, I'd think they'd be more likely to try to mislynch me than each other since I have less experience in the game. And, if they remember any experience with me, the only game we played together, Catastrophe, I did not appear towny at all (to be fair, it wasn't in my interest to appear towny). That said, oats' post on me feels more scummy since he seems to be misconstruing my comments in a way to present me as mafia. If I had to pick right now, I'd say oats is the scum in our cell. As for apathy, I'm really not sure but I had a pretty good feeling on him D1 despite some posts that I disagreed with (putting Cell E at the end, for example). For Cell E, I think I need to talk to bunnies more to get a good sense of her.
To be fair, I think anyone is an easy target when up against me/HF. Doesn't change things if he actually is scum though, and right now I lean town on HF (not that that ever seems to mean much).
I think most of your reads are the same as mine, though I put less stock in the shit Oats has been spewing 'cuz Oats, and I absolutely can't trust marv until some switch flips at some point in the game.
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On August 30 2014 02:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 30 2014 00:33 Amiko wrote:@WaveofShadow: On August 29 2014 13:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Do you think apathy or marv are scum? On August 29 2014 14:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
If marv's was a defence then it's purely chainsaw because he barely makes mention of MM1 at all. So yes, intriguing I suppose especially since he took back the 'bolded' comment after.
As far as amiko I read him pretty strongly as town so far, though I should ask (if you're still here amiko)---you seem to have more to say regarding MM1 than anyone else so far especially since you're not even in his cell. What's the deal with that?
I don't actually feel like I have said (or have much) to say on MM1 yet - basically, I just feel like he'd be the easiest target in your group because he doesn't scream town when he's town. Since there was sentiment that your cell was solved, I wanted to point out that it may not be so easy. I haven't actually reviewed MM's games though, so what Holyflare was saying regarding his posting style may be correct, I probably won't look at MM's history until later in the game though. I mention this because I figure that among marv & oats, I'd think they'd be more likely to try to mislynch me than each other since I have less experience in the game. And, if they remember any experience with me, the only game we played together, Catastrophe, I did not appear towny at all (to be fair, it wasn't in my interest to appear towny). That said, oats' post on me feels more scummy since he seems to be misconstruing my comments in a way to present me as mafia. If I had to pick right now, I'd say oats is the scum in our cell. As for apathy, I'm really not sure but I had a pretty good feeling on him D1 despite some posts that I disagreed with (putting Cell E at the end, for example). For Cell E, I think I need to talk to bunnies more to get a good sense of her. To be fair, I think anyone is an easy target when up against me/HF. Doesn't change things if he actually is scum though, and right now I lean town on HF (not that that ever seems to mean much). I think most of your reads are the same as mine, though I put less stock in the shit Oats has been spewing 'cuz Oats, and I absolutely can't trust marv until some switch flips at some point in the game. Here, drink this drink I'm giving you that I made without you watching. Nothing can go wrong, it'll be delicious. Cmon babe, all the way down.
Mmm, fruity with just a hint of arsenic.
On August 30 2014 02:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 01:58 Holyflare wrote:
Is this the famous oats with too much information? Looks like it is to me. btw i thought this too, but then i also thought of oats hard-defending scumbuddies in pyp:lol
Again, explain this?
You're saying that Oats could be scum who knows BH is town?
Like if it weren't Cell I'd lynch BH before Oats any day.
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