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On August 30 2014 05:13 Blazinghand wrote:
Lol, are you serious amiko? If you are going all the way back to cop idiot mafia, you're cherrypicking hardcore. You're the scum in your group.
I always fight as scum. I do everything to win regardless of alignment. Your attempts to falsify the truth are ridiculous. Cop You Idiot Mafia I was literally modconfirmed scum starting D1.
Like, literally mod confirmed.
god, how are you so incompetent
I didn't see that - I only read your filter from games where you were lynched d1 (as town or mafia) - from your filter I thought you and another player had both cc'd cop in that game. If it's improper context then I'm fine disregarding that game. Are there other games you can point to on whether you give up as mafia?
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@Holyflare: I think I understand your explanation of why you saw batsnacks' day 1 as misguided; I can understand the idea that ABCDE is a safer order than others even if it's wrong. But how do you feel he is still misguided and trying to help today? I don't feel like he's really doing anything productive or helpful
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On August 30 2014 05:19 Amiko wrote:
@Holyflare: I think I understand your explanation of why you saw batsnacks' day 1 as misguided; I can understand the idea that ABCDE is a safer order than others even if it's wrong. But how do you feel he is still misguided and trying to help today? I don't feel like he's really doing anything productive or helpful
marv can you comment on this also?
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@Blazinghand
Yuma -Mafia: This feels along the lines of giving up when you are being lynched as mafia.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 17 2014 07:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Look ok so we're gonna lynch me, I get it. I'll read up on the thread since it's pretty short, and let's strike a deal: between now and the lynch, you keep your vote on me, but treat me as confirmed town. We can bounce reads off each other, etc. Then I die. Sounds good guys? On May 17 2014 07:13 Blazinghand wrote:
you have nothing to lose and everything to gain On May 17 2014 08:32 Blazinghand wrote:
there's no harm in listening. i won't even contest my lynch. On May 17 2014 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
well, given that there were 2 fake blueclaims besides mine, I think we can pretty easily find scum amongst those. just lynch them after me and we win, right?
For You Only Shoot Once I dunno, you sort of defended (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/448443-you-only-shoot-once-mafia?page=60#1199) and sort of posted random stuff
On May 04 2014 09:23 Blazinghand wrote:
I held a snake once as a child. Someone in class brought him to school as a show and tell. During elementary school I had a turtle named "Rough". He was green. I held him several times.
I think you were Eccleston in smurf mafia but it's not entirely clear to me so I didn't give it much of a read? It looked like you had one or two defensive posts on the date but the style is so unlike yours (tons of ellipsis and more rambling) that it's hard to say. Anyway Yuma seems like a good enough example anyways...
Looking at those I don't feel strongly persuaded one way or the other, but it does make me feel that as mafia you may accept a lynch on you.
disclaimer: I didn't check to see ifyou were modconfirmed scum in any of those games.
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Btw Palo Alto is a nice area, I have some friends who have moved in and out of there 
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@marvellosity:
Do you still feel batsnacks is misguided today?
Do you feel like he's really doing anything productive or helpful?
Do you feel that he thinks he is doing something productive or helpful?
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On August 30 2014 05:58 Blazinghand wrote:in yuma mafia i wasn't literally modconfirmed scum but I repalced in for a dude who everyone thought was 100% scum. also all that was trying to convince people not to lynch me anyways also read the damn post you linked from yoso, you call that giving up?? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/448443-you-only-shoot-once-mafia?page=60#1199as a final note, this is normally where the player defending himself swears on his honor that he's town and not making his IRL excuse up. I have no honor, so such a promise from me is meaningless. I can swear this though: on my honor as a dude who's willing to lie and make up IRL excuses, there's no way in hell I'd make this up as scum when I could make up something much better on my honor as an unscrupulous player, I would never go with such an inconvenient story as scum. this story is the truth
On YOSO, I don't call that post giving up, but it's hard to consider it a serious defense when you start talking about pets in your next few posts.
Anyway I don't particularly disbelieve that you are moving... but I still feel like you probably should be able to play the game more than you have.
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On August 30 2014 06:09 ritoky wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.gyazo.com/3484a046b00303869de8c3ce7bc0a705.png) oh, while i read here's this breakdown of current votes by cell.
marv voted for BH, Oats voted for batsnacks
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@ritoky
I don't think I've actually used those phrases, but I understand the question.
When I look at batsnacks' posts I feel I probably cannot read him or get much from talking to him. I feel like you probably are not scum, so I'd rather just try to figure out if Blazinghand is scum.
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Now it says that Blazinghand is voting for blazinghand and batsnacks is voting for batsnacks, so swap those and you should be ok
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@ritoky:
It's an indicator but it's not much for me to work with. Batsnacks' posts feel like they can be trolling or silly as easily as it could be mafia.
Anyway, I mean for me I understand that there is value in engaging in a thread as town - it helps people see your thought process and hopefully townread you. But I've seen plenty of players lurk but not be mafia, and plenty of players who post random stuff and not be mafia. I get what you are saying (batsnacks isn't making it easier for me) but eh it's not enough to persuade me that much one way or the other.
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@Batsnacks:
On August 30 2014 11:09 batsnacks wrote:I'm going to do a ritoky, only mine is right the first time: Here is where I'm at: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/alBvQCz.png) Here is why I am at where I'm at: BH: He -actually- posted an entire photo album of him moving. ...
Why does this make you think Blazinghand is scum? I don't understand this read.
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On August 30 2014 19:13 Not really holyflare wrote:
##Vote: batsnacks
FYI this is not in the vote post
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@Batsnacks on ninjabunnies:
On August 30 2014 11:09 batsnacks wrote:I'm going to do a ritoky, only mine is right the first time: Here is where I'm at: . . . 27bunny: This isn't her scum meta. . . .
What about bunnies' play do you feel is not her scum meta?
I don't feel her play this game is consistent with the town games I've seen from her. As town, I remember her pressuring other players D1 pretty early. This game she seems to have been joking for long after most players has started getting more active into the game, her posts all seem responsive rather than scumhunting.
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@batsnacks: Your BH vote needs more explanation and your read on your mom seems inconsistent
On August 30 2014 12:24 batsnacks wrote:
Admittedly, I don't even understand my reads most of the time I make them. They are right more often than I understand them. But BH is mafia. Did you see the photo album he posted instead of "proving" I'm mafia, like he said he would?
This suggest that one reason you scumread BH is because he has not proved you are mafia today.
However, that obviously was not your reason to vote him, because you voted him at the beginning of the day. So why did you vote him?
Also,
On August 30 2014 11:09 batsnacks wrote:
your mom: First, smurf. Second, has voted BlazingHand two days in a row for reasons I am not sold on.
Your mom didn't really provide any reasons when he voted for Blazinghand + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2014 00:59 your mom wrote: ##Vote: Blazinghand
When he did provide reasons, it seemed to be that Blazinghand is not trying to solve the game.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 30 2014 01:07 your mom wrote:
oats you feel like bh is trying to solve the game or find the scum in his cell?
i only see him complaining about him getting lynched and how he found a perfect strategy, and nothing is lft of his D1 tryhardness On August 30 2014 03:52 your mom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 03:43 Blazinghand wrote:
you gotta admit though, the order I came up with after the game started was objectively better and more pro-town than the ideas I had before the game start, even if it was contradictory
admit that and I will die in silence your ideas were good but your followup this day was shite. I don't put that much weight into you having a different plan than pre game rather than above argument. starting tryhard and then going ranty/silent is scummy, enthusiasm for discussing your plans but no real attempts to find scum in your cell yet...
If you scumread Blazinghand for not trying to solve the game (see above) then why would you disagree with your mom's reasons?
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Yeah I probably should vote now. Right now I suspect batsnacks more than Blazinghand - I'm still open to moving and will be around on and off until deadline.
##vote: batsnacks
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@27ninjabunnies:
What do you think of batsnacks' comments on you?
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@marvellosity: Is your vote still based on townreading batsnacks, or more on scumreading Blazinghand?
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