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On July 31 2014 15:51 JennyHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 15:50 Teemursu wrote:
Phoneposting is so annoying but this reminds me of when I went apeshit with Koshi and Viv after you went hard on Koshi, GB, which it's kinda why I'm doing this lol Don't get this. Wasn't in that game. Don't care if you're on phone or not. All I wanted to say for now
It's fine it www. As mostly directed at GB.
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On July 31 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Meat you need to make a concise point why you and roman numeral aren't mafia. You or him are both on the block and could die.
You have to do loads of work to have this not happen. So tell us why it shouldnt' happen.
I like that there is just an awkward silence after this post.
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On July 31 2014 16:16 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 16:09 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Meat you need to make a concise point why you and roman numeral aren't mafia. You or him are both on the block and could die.
You have to do loads of work to have this not happen. So tell us why it shouldnt' happen. I like that there is just an awkward silence after this post. Your conversation was useless and not getting us anywhere. IT was like not doing anything to progress things. We need to hit a mafia today this isnt a good way to do it.
No shit, but meat isn't giving me anything to work with either.
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On July 31 2014 16:23 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 16:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 31 2014 16:13 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Meat you need to make a concise point why you and roman numeral aren't mafia. You or him are both on the block and could die.
You have to do loads of work to have this not happen. So tell us why it shouldnt' happen. Why don't you elaborate why you think he's scum? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22709181 You say he's not pushing when in fact he is. Like yeah he hasn't posted much but I do not get scum from that. I happen to think he is going in the right direction (except voting me) and I think he's town. Would you reevaluate roman when you were once "75% sure" tea was scum? I made the 75% number up. I just know he hadnt been playing it was for reactions I never thought he was that mafia tbh. I didn't even get votes on him. But see the thing is that RomanNumeralGuy isn't even trying to get who he thinks is scum lynched (teemu) hes not trying to convince others hes mafia hes not asking for votes. Hes happy with how things go. He just went to sleep thinking you would die. He doesn't care to push any further. HE is being apathetic about scum hunting=mafia. This still isn't enough to swing my vote. I think apathetic scum hunting could be applied more than one way. At least he put minimal effort in. Maybe I agree with you but do you put top scum based on that alone?
Ok, you agree that 666 doesn't really care if I get lynched or not. Assume you're wrong on me, why is 666 town now?
If you really really really think I'm mafia and still want to tunnel on me, I want YOU to make a case and not a) repeat that everyone apparently thinks I'm scum/on the fence with me and b) say that you're sheeping 666 and that he's right.
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On July 31 2014 16:31 JennyHell wrote:
Not long til the end of d1 and I'm just feeling so frustrated about it all.
I feel that meatpudding is just grasping at straws and maybe it wouldn't have been like that had he actually been here and done more to start with.
This is what happens when people are lurky or not making sense.
Please, for the love of anything, learn from this and improve.
I'm really frustrated as well but tbh this isn't a very helpful post either. :p
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On July 31 2014 16:37 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 16:23 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 16:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 31 2014 16:13 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Meat you need to make a concise point why you and roman numeral aren't mafia. You or him are both on the block and could die.
You have to do loads of work to have this not happen. So tell us why it shouldnt' happen. Why don't you elaborate why you think he's scum? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22709181 You say he's not pushing when in fact he is. Like yeah he hasn't posted much but I do not get scum from that. I happen to think he is going in the right direction (except voting me) and I think he's town. Would you reevaluate roman when you were once "75% sure" tea was scum? I made the 75% number up. I just know he hadnt been playing it was for reactions I never thought he was that mafia tbh. I didn't even get votes on him. But see the thing is that RomanNumeralGuy isn't even trying to get who he thinks is scum lynched (teemu) hes not trying to convince others hes mafia hes not asking for votes. Hes happy with how things go. He just went to sleep thinking you would die. He doesn't care to push any further. HE is being apathetic about scum hunting=mafia. This still isn't enough to swing my vote. I think apathetic scum hunting could be applied more than one way. At least he put minimal effort in. Maybe I agree with you but do you put top scum based on that alone? So you think you're more mafia than him..... Look at votes bro. Btw I forgot to say this earlier but I'm town. I wasn't in my reads and I Wanted people who need someone to trust to know thats the case.
Banks which one of 666 and meat do you think is more likely to be mafia?
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On July 31 2014 16:42 Seeyalater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 12:56 Teemursu wrote:
I read his case and it was mostly about me switching my read on Seeyalater. First, he's like, "why aren't YOU using your vote to kill mafia" and that I'm scummy for not trying to get Seeyalater lynched, but the problem is that I don't know who the mafia aye,lol.
Me not being sure about Seeyalater and then using my vote to pressure you doesn't really make me mafia. Neither can I really defend myself about not voting until pinged to do so, like, big deal?
Idk feels like he it's trying to make up stuff to get me misslynched, but I would rather see mp dead today I'll get to other posts in a little bit(was busy for a few hours practicing DaS2 speedruns), but I have also noticed that both of us are getting pushed for not voting for each other when it was still early in the day.
Do you not think I'm mafia anymore? Who do you think is mafia, if that's the case?
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On July 31 2014 16:44 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 16:37 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 31 2014 16:23 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 16:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 31 2014 16:13 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Meat you need to make a concise point why you and roman numeral aren't mafia. You or him are both on the block and could die.
You have to do loads of work to have this not happen. So tell us why it shouldnt' happen. Why don't you elaborate why you think he's scum? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22709181 You say he's not pushing when in fact he is. Like yeah he hasn't posted much but I do not get scum from that. I happen to think he is going in the right direction (except voting me) and I think he's town. Would you reevaluate roman when you were once "75% sure" tea was scum? I made the 75% number up. I just know he hadnt been playing it was for reactions I never thought he was that mafia tbh. I didn't even get votes on him. But see the thing is that RomanNumeralGuy isn't even trying to get who he thinks is scum lynched (teemu) hes not trying to convince others hes mafia hes not asking for votes. Hes happy with how things go. He just went to sleep thinking you would die. He doesn't care to push any further. HE is being apathetic about scum hunting=mafia. This still isn't enough to swing my vote. I think apathetic scum hunting could be applied more than one way. At least he put minimal effort in. Maybe I agree with you but do you put top scum based on that alone? So you think you're more mafia than him..... Look at votes bro. Btw I forgot to say this earlier but I'm town. I wasn't in my reads and I Wanted people who need someone to trust to know thats the case. I'm really starting to lose faith in you bro. We are going to wagon on 666 when you have so little to claim on him? And Teemu is just sheeping you. This reasoning does not stand with me, and if you can't name another scum I would consider switching my vote from tea to you. Make more sense before leading a potential mislynch.
Wtfbbqlol.
Make a case on Banks as to why he is mafia. A case. Don't just say that 666 is like confirmed town in your eyes and that everyone pushing on that person is mafia trying to push a misslynch.
It actually is pretty interesting how strongly you think 666 is town, to the point of thinking the above. You JUST said that you agree with Banks that 666 isn't being adamant about his push on me, but it doesn't sway you yet, yet from my PoV it's difficult to read you as town, since I know I'm town and you've been reading 666 as town for mostly just agreeing about his push on me.
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On July 31 2014 16:45 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 16:42 Seeyalater wrote:On July 31 2014 12:56 Teemursu wrote:
I read his case and it was mostly about me switching my read on Seeyalater. First, he's like, "why aren't YOU using your vote to kill mafia" and that I'm scummy for not trying to get Seeyalater lynched, but the problem is that I don't know who the mafia aye,lol.
Me not being sure about Seeyalater and then using my vote to pressure you doesn't really make me mafia. Neither can I really defend myself about not voting until pinged to do so, like, big deal?
Idk feels like he it's trying to make up stuff to get me misslynched, but I would rather see mp dead today I'll get to other posts in a little bit(was busy for a few hours practicing DaS2 speedruns), but I have also noticed that both of us are getting pushed for not voting for each other when it was still early in the day. Do you not think I'm mafia anymore? Who do you think is mafia, if that's the case?
Because I have no fucking clue.
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Woops, wrong post quoted, meant to quote the one where I asked Banks who the mafia is.
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On July 31 2014 17:01 Seeyalater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 15:50 Teemursu wrote:
Phoneposting is so annoying but this reminds me of when I went apeshit with Koshi and Viv after you went hard on Koshi, GB, which it's kinda why I'm doing this lol Why do you keep bringing up previous games, when a few of us get bad vibes whenever you bring them up! Stop that if you want my read on you to completely change >_<
Because I felt like GB might know where I'm coming from, since I feel like I'm in a same kind of spot than I was in that game. If he gets it, he knows where I'm coming from. Frustrated, confused, and possibly wrong (in hindsight, lol).
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On July 31 2014 17:04 Seeyalater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 16:33 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 16:31 JennyHell wrote:
Not long til the end of d1 and I'm just feeling so frustrated about it all.
I feel that meatpudding is just grasping at straws and maybe it wouldn't have been like that had he actually been here and done more to start with.
This is what happens when people are lurky or not making sense.
Please, for the love of anything, learn from this and improve. I'm really frustrated as well but tbh this isn't a very helpful post either. :p It's a helpful post IMO because it shows that A. Jenny has been keeping up, and B. tells us how she feels about recent developments.
Yes, but think to yourself how easy it is for mafia to make a post like this..
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W/e, it doesn't really matter. She's town otherwise in her posting and that post isn't going to make her mafia in any world.
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On July 31 2014 17:11 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 17:09 Teemursu wrote:
W/e, it doesn't really matter. She's town otherwise in her posting and that post isn't going to make her mafia in any world. Who do you think is scum then? You can't really be voting me cause I'm inactive and roman to sheep Banks...
If you and 666 are both town, I honestly don't know.
I'm not voting on you because you're inactive, I'm voting on you because:
On July 31 2014 15:45 Teemursu wrote:
Meat, I think it's pretty scummy that you're not as strong with your opinion as you are with repeating that everyone else thinks what you're trying to make others think right now.
I think it was really scummy to make the list, ask a couple of questions and disappear without following them up with anything.
You're not really doing anything to defend yourself, while from my perspective it's impossible to read you as town when most of what you've done is
Saying I'm mafia for reasons that I would have to find the evidence for. For example, saying that my text:content ratio isn't something you can just quote and refer to, I would have to go ahead and point to my filter as to where my reads, pushes and content is and I'm not doing that extra work to prove to you that I'm "playing townie", since almost everyone here agrees that I shouldn't be the lynch today, and you're not giving me an alternative, really.
Your push on GB isn't strong or good. You were basically saying he's mafia for using good and well-thought logic. Ok? I think you also mentioned that he was "too careful" about it, that's where YOU need to prove it and provide EVIDENCE and EXAMPLES. You're doing none of these things and instead, you're just hard defending 666 because of his push on me, while I know I'm town and while even you agree with Banks that he hasn't been adamant about getting me lynched, so why read him as town?
You being so stubborn and tunneled on me is how you played the other game as well (you were town), but do you really think there is a way for me to read you as town, IF IF IF, just assume IF I'm town?
IF you think there is, you still haven't done anything to prove or show it to us, even after Banks and I are trying to give you the opportunity to defend yourself.
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On July 31 2014 17:45 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 17:43 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 17:11 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 17:09 Teemursu wrote:
W/e, it doesn't really matter. She's town otherwise in her posting and that post isn't going to make her mafia in any world. Who do you think is scum then? You can't really be voting me cause I'm inactive and roman to sheep Banks... If you and 666 are both town, I honestly don't know. I'm not voting on you because you're inactive, I'm voting on you because: On July 31 2014 15:45 Teemursu wrote:
Meat, I think it's pretty scummy that you're not as strong with your opinion as you are with repeating that everyone else thinks what you're trying to make others think right now. I think it was really scummy to make the list, ask a couple of questions and disappear without following them up with anything. You're not really doing anything to defend yourself, while from my perspective it's impossible to read you as town when most of what you've done is Saying I'm mafia for reasons that I would have to find the evidence for. For example, saying that my text:content ratio isn't something you can just quote and refer to, I would have to go ahead and point to my filter as to where my reads, pushes and content is and I'm not doing that extra work to prove to you that I'm "playing townie", since almost everyone here agrees that I shouldn't be the lynch today, and you're not giving me an alternative, really. Your push on GB isn't strong or good. You were basically saying he's mafia for using good and well-thought logic. Ok? I think you also mentioned that he was "too careful" about it, that's where YOU need to prove it and provide EVIDENCE and EXAMPLES. You're doing none of these things and instead, you're just hard defending 666 because of his push on me, while I know I'm town and while even you agree with Banks that he hasn't been adamant about getting me lynched, so why read him as town? You being so stubborn and tunneled on me is how you played the other game as well (you were town), but do you really think there is a way for me to read you as town, IF IF IF, just assume IF I'm town? IF you think there is, you still haven't done anything to prove or show it to us, even after Banks and I are trying to give you the opportunity to defend yourself. analyze jenny's bMK
Can you tell me something specific to analyze? I don't really see what I need to, since I'm mostly on the same page as she is (more paranoid about you and less suspicious on lilwayne) and I'm not really too interested in going filter diving her to find the reasons for her names.
I'm also getting really paranoid that Meat might be town, as shit as his defense still is.
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On July 31 2014 17:48 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 17:43 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 17:11 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 17:09 Teemursu wrote:
W/e, it doesn't really matter. She's town otherwise in her posting and that post isn't going to make her mafia in any world. Who do you think is scum then? You can't really be voting me cause I'm inactive and roman to sheep Banks... If you and 666 are both town, I honestly don't know. I'm not voting on you because you're inactive, I'm voting on you because: On July 31 2014 15:45 Teemursu wrote:
Meat, I think it's pretty scummy that you're not as strong with your opinion as you are with repeating that everyone else thinks what you're trying to make others think right now. I think it was really scummy to make the list, ask a couple of questions and disappear without following them up with anything. You're not really doing anything to defend yourself, while from my perspective it's impossible to read you as town when most of what you've done is Saying I'm mafia for reasons that I would have to find the evidence for. For example, saying that my text:content ratio isn't something you can just quote and refer to, I would have to go ahead and point to my filter as to where my reads, pushes and content is and I'm not doing that extra work to prove to you that I'm "playing townie", since almost everyone here agrees that I shouldn't be the lynch today, and you're not giving me an alternative, really. Your push on GB isn't strong or good. You were basically saying he's mafia for using good and well-thought logic. Ok? I think you also mentioned that he was "too careful" about it, that's where YOU need to prove it and provide EVIDENCE and EXAMPLES. You're doing none of these things and instead, you're just hard defending 666 because of his push on me, while I know I'm town and while even you agree with Banks that he hasn't been adamant about getting me lynched, so why read him as town? You being so stubborn and tunneled on me is how you played the other game as well (you were town), but do you really think there is a way for me to read you as town, IF IF IF, just assume IF I'm town? IF you think there is, you still haven't done anything to prove or show it to us, even after Banks and I are trying to give you the opportunity to defend yourself. Banks thinks I'm too defensive. You say I'm not defensive enough. I think it's time to throw up some reasonable cases all round. Everyone can point out each others apathy and errors and post limits but I'm only going on each case that I can follow. I would like to present some thoughts that are more organised but I'd like to see some too!
Then DO so and help us read you as town. The difference is that you're getting lynched, and Banks or I aren't, so prove to us, or the rest of town that you're town.
On July 31 2014 17:39 lilwade wrote:
I got excited to see a bunch of posts when I got back, I am sincerely disappointed that the game had to go this direction, Meatpudding. What are your goals right now, you look like the kid in kindergarten pointing the finger and the other kid spitting gibberish because he took your toy. We are almost at the point where it would be better for you to role claim than anything else, not saying you have a role. Please put up a solid defense backed by what you think is solid leads and maybe we can get somewhere. For a bit you were leaning town but did not follow up on just about anything you have said. I am not sure if you just can not handle the pressure but if you are town hang in there and throw a few more punches.
I think this is kind of what Banks means about you being defensive.
What I mean by not being defensive enough, is that you're STILL not proving that you're town, you're not fighting this lynch tooth and nail by giving us solid reads and substantiating them and thus proving you're town.
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On July 31 2014 18:02 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 17:50 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 17:45 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 31 2014 17:43 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 17:11 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 17:09 Teemursu wrote:
W/e, it doesn't really matter. She's town otherwise in her posting and that post isn't going to make her mafia in any world. Who do you think is scum then? You can't really be voting me cause I'm inactive and roman to sheep Banks... If you and 666 are both town, I honestly don't know. I'm not voting on you because you're inactive, I'm voting on you because: On July 31 2014 15:45 Teemursu wrote:
Meat, I think it's pretty scummy that you're not as strong with your opinion as you are with repeating that everyone else thinks what you're trying to make others think right now. I think it was really scummy to make the list, ask a couple of questions and disappear without following them up with anything. You're not really doing anything to defend yourself, while from my perspective it's impossible to read you as town when most of what you've done is Saying I'm mafia for reasons that I would have to find the evidence for. For example, saying that my text:content ratio isn't something you can just quote and refer to, I would have to go ahead and point to my filter as to where my reads, pushes and content is and I'm not doing that extra work to prove to you that I'm "playing townie", since almost everyone here agrees that I shouldn't be the lynch today, and you're not giving me an alternative, really. Your push on GB isn't strong or good. You were basically saying he's mafia for using good and well-thought logic. Ok? I think you also mentioned that he was "too careful" about it, that's where YOU need to prove it and provide EVIDENCE and EXAMPLES. You're doing none of these things and instead, you're just hard defending 666 because of his push on me, while I know I'm town and while even you agree with Banks that he hasn't been adamant about getting me lynched, so why read him as town? You being so stubborn and tunneled on me is how you played the other game as well (you were town), but do you really think there is a way for me to read you as town, IF IF IF, just assume IF I'm town? IF you think there is, you still haven't done anything to prove or show it to us, even after Banks and I are trying to give you the opportunity to defend yourself. analyze jenny's bMK Can you tell me something specific to analyze? I don't really see what I need to, since I'm mostly on the same page as she is (more paranoid about you and less suspicious on lilwayne) and I'm not really too interested in going filter diving her to find the reasons for her names. I'm also getting really paranoid that Meat might be town, as shit as his defense still is. If you read him more town kill RomanNumeralGuy thats who my vote has been on. I'm thinking the opposite I want to kill meat more and more tbh.
You remember the game I was mafia trying to lynch meat, right? You don't think meat is acting very similarly? That's why I'm starting to lean more on 666 but I kind of am not convinced he's mafia either. Like what you said was good, but usually I have stronger vibes on mafia than that.
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How much time do we have until EOD? Like four hours?
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On July 31 2014 18:30 Seeyalater wrote:
If meat was to change his own vote to Clockwork and vote is tied 4-4, what would happen in that case? Asking in case I need to change my vote to stop a tie from happening.
Otherwise I think I'm going to stick with my gut and keep my vote on Meat.
The person who gets the amount of votes that ties him with someone first gets lynched.
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On July 31 2014 18:12 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 18:07 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 18:02 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 31 2014 17:50 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 17:45 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 31 2014 17:43 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 17:11 meatpudding wrote:On July 31 2014 17:09 Teemursu wrote:
W/e, it doesn't really matter. She's town otherwise in her posting and that post isn't going to make her mafia in any world. Who do you think is scum then? You can't really be voting me cause I'm inactive and roman to sheep Banks... If you and 666 are both town, I honestly don't know. I'm not voting on you because you're inactive, I'm voting on you because: On July 31 2014 15:45 Teemursu wrote:
Meat, I think it's pretty scummy that you're not as strong with your opinion as you are with repeating that everyone else thinks what you're trying to make others think right now. I think it was really scummy to make the list, ask a couple of questions and disappear without following them up with anything. You're not really doing anything to defend yourself, while from my perspective it's impossible to read you as town when most of what you've done is Saying I'm mafia for reasons that I would have to find the evidence for. For example, saying that my text:content ratio isn't something you can just quote and refer to, I would have to go ahead and point to my filter as to where my reads, pushes and content is and I'm not doing that extra work to prove to you that I'm "playing townie", since almost everyone here agrees that I shouldn't be the lynch today, and you're not giving me an alternative, really. Your push on GB isn't strong or good. You were basically saying he's mafia for using good and well-thought logic. Ok? I think you also mentioned that he was "too careful" about it, that's where YOU need to prove it and provide EVIDENCE and EXAMPLES. You're doing none of these things and instead, you're just hard defending 666 because of his push on me, while I know I'm town and while even you agree with Banks that he hasn't been adamant about getting me lynched, so why read him as town? You being so stubborn and tunneled on me is how you played the other game as well (you were town), but do you really think there is a way for me to read you as town, IF IF IF, just assume IF I'm town? IF you think there is, you still haven't done anything to prove or show it to us, even after Banks and I are trying to give you the opportunity to defend yourself. analyze jenny's bMK Can you tell me something specific to analyze? I don't really see what I need to, since I'm mostly on the same page as she is (more paranoid about you and less suspicious on lilwayne) and I'm not really too interested in going filter diving her to find the reasons for her names. I'm also getting really paranoid that Meat might be town, as shit as his defense still is. If you read him more town kill RomanNumeralGuy thats who my vote has been on. I'm thinking the opposite I want to kill meat more and more tbh. You remember the game I was mafia trying to lynch meat, right? You don't think meat is acting very similarly? That's why I'm starting to lean more on 666 but I kind of am not convinced he's mafia either. Like what you said was good, but usually I have stronger vibes on mafia than that. I didn't read day 1 tbh. So I don't know about that game and how he defended. Do you really think its the same? I'm already on RomanNumeralGuy/
It is kind of the same, yeah. He's being really stubborn and kind of null to the accusations thrown at him. There's a little more of what lilwayne expressed when he talked about him being like a little kid in the garden, that I kind of agree with. That is making me a little more comfortable with the lynch, but I'm just not sure if he's mafia or not.
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