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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 24 2014 11:27 GMT
#1101
may I ask a vote count here, please?
I'm adorable.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 24 2014 11:28 GMT
#1102
On July 24 2014 20:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:15 Teemursu wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't like koshi's post at all. They are all rubbish.
CR's case on Xatalos is full of fluff. Who was the guy that just said "oh what a good case!"? Remember reading it somewhere but don't remember who.
Haru that's not a scum slip and you know that <3
Teemu, your posts were ok when skimming through your filter. I'm just cautious with you because they were also okay when you were mafia.

If Xatalos isn't mafia I'd totally focus koshi and CR

What do you think of Haru, then?


I actually think this is his town play. But I'm considering his meta, though.
And you? What's your opinion?

Gb understands me :D

I would actually do nothing d1 and be very useless, but first day of d1 was my birthday so I put in 100% more effort than before and did something meaningful. I'm still proud of past|harum I'm just snowballing and buildung off his case now.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
July 24 2014 11:28 GMT
#1103
On July 24 2014 20:27 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:19 Vivax wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:17 batsnacks wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:14 Vivax wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:13 batsnacks wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:12 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't like koshi's post at all. They are all rubbish.
CR's case on Xatalos is full of fluff. Who was the guy that just said "oh what a good case!"? Remember reading it somewhere but don't remember who.
Haru that's not a scum slip and you know that <3
Teemu, your posts were ok when skimming through your filter. I'm just cautious with you because they were also okay when you were mafia.

If Xatalos isn't mafia I'd totally focus koshi and CR


It was batsnacks who simply sheeped the case.


Who should I vote if not you? Maybe I'll listen to you.


Discuss the alternatives and pro and cons of lynching Xatalos if you got the brain matter to make an insightful, complete post.


Be nice when you ask or I'll ignore you.


You can also simply post in a way that makes you more readable and prove you got the brain matter.
Pleaaaase?


Yeah I'm more than a little tired of playing with people who just call each other idiots all game. It makes me want to troll those people, but I'm trying to behave. You can try again day 2 assuming you get the chance.


Assuming you get the chance, might be the vig gets tired of your whine. Maybe I'm the vig and I get pissed at people who play the victim, take your chances if you so wish.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 11:29 GMT
#1104
On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Teemu and GB, care to give your opinion on the Damdred wagon and the chances of it hitting scum?


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?


The argument is that he set up for voting me without any kind of commitment, didn't pursue that line of thought and has generally stayed almost invisible in the discussion while making a somehow passable amount of posts.

I think Koshi is acting stupid but it's not reason enough lynch him. He should be easier to read on D2+.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
July 24 2014 11:31 GMT
#1105
On July 24 2014 20:29 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Teemu and GB, care to give your opinion on the Damdred wagon and the chances of it hitting scum?


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?


The argument is that he set up for voting me without any kind of commitment, didn't pursue that line of thought and has generally stayed almost invisible in the discussion while making a somehow passable amount of posts.

I think Koshi is acting stupid but it's not reason enough lynch him. He should be easier to read on D2+.


What would be an acceptable reason for you to scumread Koshi then, acting stupid not D1, but D2?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 11:34 GMT
#1106
On July 24 2014 20:26 Vivax wrote:
Xata how can you feel CR's push seems genuine it gives me a different impression.
If it were a push on me based on his reasons I wouldn't be as chill as you are.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Teemu and GB, care to give your opinion on the Damdred wagon and the chances of it hitting scum?


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?


The reason is simple. His posts read like he cares, he posted a case on Xatalos without according followup, he promised stuff he didn't deilver, he doesn't post much at all.

People like him are more likely to be scum over people like VA who openly look bad instead of hiding behind townie sounding posts.


I think it was the way he responded to my questions or something. It felt like he genuinely had a thought process behind his push and it wasn't just a fake push.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 24 2014 11:34 GMT
#1107
How the fuck am I acting stupid?

Is literally everybody reading scumVivax as town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 24 2014 11:37 GMT
#1108
##unvote
##vote Chopin Listzs


I got to have my vote on this guy as well. Also highhh chance on scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
July 24 2014 11:37 GMT
#1109
On July 24 2014 20:34 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:26 Vivax wrote:
Xata how can you feel CR's push seems genuine it gives me a different impression.
If it were a push on me based on his reasons I wouldn't be as chill as you are.

On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Teemu and GB, care to give your opinion on the Damdred wagon and the chances of it hitting scum?


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?


The reason is simple. His posts read like he cares, he posted a case on Xatalos without according followup, he promised stuff he didn't deilver, he doesn't post much at all.

People like him are more likely to be scum over people like VA who openly look bad instead of hiding behind townie sounding posts.


I think it was the way he responded to my questions or something. It felt like he genuinely had a thought process behind his push and it wasn't just a fake push.


Go into detail if you can. Show us your thought process while you quote one of the posts that made you get that idea. It's your head on the line so it's in your best interest, and also in mine to find out what you are.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 11:37 GMT
#1110
On July 24 2014 20:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 18:26 Xatalos wrote:
I think most of the people on my wagon look pretty good. The most scummy vote is definitely batsnacks, since it was just an opportunistic bandwagon vote. If I had to bet on someone being scum on the wagon, it would be batsnacks (in big part thanks to that pretty apathetic&opportunistic vote). He's also not really paying attention to what he's reading since he pretty much started the issue of me "scumreading" VA >.>

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:23 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:17 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos,

another question:

Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks

Out of all these people you only have issues with Batsnacks? I am looking at those names and I am pretty sure I don't have a clue on 4 of them.

And you are the one claiming having no grip on this game. While I already found 1 scum and 7 townreads.


Chairman Ray - his push on me isn't very good, but it seems reasonably genuine

GlowingBear - dunno, not particularly leaning in any direction atm

HaruRH - I think he's genuine enough, from looking at his filter earlier

rayn - dunno why his vote is (still) on me, but he's felt reasonably towny this time around

Navillus - dunno, I don't think I had any real issues with his vote earlier


Why do they look good if you have 0 clues on them.


Not looking that good or bad is better than just looking bad. I didn't have any real issues with any of those votes besides the vote from batsnacks.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 11:40 GMT
#1111
On July 24 2014 20:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:29 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Teemu and GB, care to give your opinion on the Damdred wagon and the chances of it hitting scum?


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?


The argument is that he set up for voting me without any kind of commitment, didn't pursue that line of thought and has generally stayed almost invisible in the discussion while making a somehow passable amount of posts.

I think Koshi is acting stupid but it's not reason enough lynch him. He should be easier to read on D2+.


What would be an acceptable reason for you to scumread Koshi then, acting stupid not D1, but D2?


I have a terrible history of reading Koshi so I'll just quote a guideline I received from a player with better success reading him:

"Koshi I think is really easy to read, he becomes really obvious town some time on Night 1 or Day 2 if he is town. e.g. in ## mafia I thought he was suspicious on day 1 but mid day 2 he was easily my strongest townread. he bleeds his thought process into the thread. it's really transparent, you just gotta read and put yourself in his shoes."
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 24 2014 11:40 GMT
#1112
On July 24 2014 20:29 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Teemu and GB, care to give your opinion on the Damdred wagon and the chances of it hitting scum?


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?


The argument is that he set up for voting me without any kind of commitment, didn't pursue that line of thought and has generally stayed almost invisible in the discussion while making a somehow passable amount of posts.

I think Koshi is acting stupid but it's not reason enough lynch him. He should be easier to read on D2+.


Going to look damdred's filter. Tbh I haven't seem anything really wrong with him. I remember observing a game where he was town and got mislynched by acting like that. But I'll check what you're saying.

What about Rayn? He is voting you and went to full lurking. Do you think he is a better lynch?

I'm reaching my university and 3G here doesn't work well
I'm adorable.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
July 24 2014 11:41 GMT
#1113
On July 24 2014 20:40 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:31 Vivax wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:29 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Teemu and GB, care to give your opinion on the Damdred wagon and the chances of it hitting scum?


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?


The argument is that he set up for voting me without any kind of commitment, didn't pursue that line of thought and has generally stayed almost invisible in the discussion while making a somehow passable amount of posts.

I think Koshi is acting stupid but it's not reason enough lynch him. He should be easier to read on D2+.


What would be an acceptable reason for you to scumread Koshi then, acting stupid not D1, but D2?


I have a terrible history of reading Koshi so I'll just quote a guideline I received from a player with better success reading him:

"Koshi I think is really easy to read, he becomes really obvious town some time on Night 1 or Day 2 if he is town. e.g. in ## mafia I thought he was suspicious on day 1 but mid day 2 he was easily my strongest townread. he bleeds his thought process into the thread. it's really transparent, you just gotta read and put yourself in his shoes."


If he bleeds his thought process in this game I'm sure you can tell me why exactly he's reading me as scum cause all I saw him doing was yelling and not explaining.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 24 2014 11:43 GMT
#1114
On July 24 2014 20:37 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:27 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2014 18:26 Xatalos wrote:
I think most of the people on my wagon look pretty good. The most scummy vote is definitely batsnacks, since it was just an opportunistic bandwagon vote. If I had to bet on someone being scum on the wagon, it would be batsnacks (in big part thanks to that pretty apathetic&opportunistic vote). He's also not really paying attention to what he's reading since he pretty much started the issue of me "scumreading" VA >.>

On July 24 2014 20:23 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:17 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos,

another question:

Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks

Out of all these people you only have issues with Batsnacks? I am looking at those names and I am pretty sure I don't have a clue on 4 of them.

And you are the one claiming having no grip on this game. While I already found 1 scum and 7 townreads.


Chairman Ray - his push on me isn't very good, but it seems reasonably genuine

GlowingBear - dunno, not particularly leaning in any direction atm

HaruRH - I think he's genuine enough, from looking at his filter earlier

rayn - dunno why his vote is (still) on me, but he's felt reasonably towny this time around

Navillus - dunno, I don't think I had any real issues with his vote earlier


Why do they look good if you have 0 clues on them.


Not looking that good or bad is better than just looking bad. I didn't have any real issues with any of those votes besides the vote from batsnacks.

On July 24 2014 09:57 batsnacks wrote:
I'm going to sheep CR because I liked the case. Better than any case I could have made.

##Vote: xatalos

Someone ask me questions I feel scummy. But make sure they're nice questions or I'll probably just ignore them.

You say the case from CR is pretty genuine, why can't batsnacks not believe in the case?

and tbh, that CR case on you looked pretty good. I mean, the joke in the start was enough to vote you if Vivax wasn't so damn scummy the entire game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 11:44 GMT
#1115
On July 24 2014 20:37 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Chopin Listzs


I got to have my vote on this guy as well. Also highhh chance on scum.

Composers have an extra sign of madness. They hear sounds in their head, which is surely not so different from the “voices” saints and madmen hear. You could say being slightly unhinged just goes with the territory. But some creative artists actually go over the edge and become what we might call clinically insane.
Bach to the basics.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
July 24 2014 11:47 GMT
#1116
On July 24 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:37 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:27 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2014 18:26 Xatalos wrote:
I think most of the people on my wagon look pretty good. The most scummy vote is definitely batsnacks, since it was just an opportunistic bandwagon vote. If I had to bet on someone being scum on the wagon, it would be batsnacks (in big part thanks to that pretty apathetic&opportunistic vote). He's also not really paying attention to what he's reading since he pretty much started the issue of me "scumreading" VA >.>

On July 24 2014 20:23 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:17 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos,

another question:

Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks

Out of all these people you only have issues with Batsnacks? I am looking at those names and I am pretty sure I don't have a clue on 4 of them.

And you are the one claiming having no grip on this game. While I already found 1 scum and 7 townreads.


Chairman Ray - his push on me isn't very good, but it seems reasonably genuine

GlowingBear - dunno, not particularly leaning in any direction atm

HaruRH - I think he's genuine enough, from looking at his filter earlier

rayn - dunno why his vote is (still) on me, but he's felt reasonably towny this time around

Navillus - dunno, I don't think I had any real issues with his vote earlier


Why do they look good if you have 0 clues on them.


Not looking that good or bad is better than just looking bad. I didn't have any real issues with any of those votes besides the vote from batsnacks.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 09:57 batsnacks wrote:
I'm going to sheep CR because I liked the case. Better than any case I could have made.

##Vote: xatalos

Someone ask me questions I feel scummy. But make sure they're nice questions or I'll probably just ignore them.

You say the case from CR is pretty genuine, why can't batsnacks not believe in the case?

and tbh, that CR case on you looked pretty good. I mean, the joke in the start was enough to vote you if Vivax wasn't so damn scummy the entire game.


Waitwaitwait, what joke.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
July 24 2014 11:48 GMT
#1117
On July 23 2014 17:23 Koshi wrote:
I wonder if people really think that Xatalos made that post and was serious about it. Silly guys.

Anyhoezels. Only 3 scummers. If you think scum makes a entrance post like Xatalos in this game as scum I don't know what to say... Unless you can proof he is going for the too scummy to be scum tactic. And I think Xatalos can't do that.


So Xatalos confirmed town.


I mean, the joke in the start was enough to vote you
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 11:52 GMT
#1118
On July 24 2014 20:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 20:34 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:26 Vivax wrote:
Xata how can you feel CR's push seems genuine it gives me a different impression.
If it were a push on me based on his reasons I wouldn't be as chill as you are.

On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 24 2014 20:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Teemu and GB, care to give your opinion on the Damdred wagon and the chances of it hitting scum?


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?


The reason is simple. His posts read like he cares, he posted a case on Xatalos without according followup, he promised stuff he didn't deilver, he doesn't post much at all.

People like him are more likely to be scum over people like VA who openly look bad instead of hiding behind townie sounding posts.


I think it was the way he responded to my questions or something. It felt like he genuinely had a thought process behind his push and it wasn't just a fake push.


Go into detail if you can. Show us your thought process while you quote one of the posts that made you get that idea. It's your head on the line so it's in your best interest, and also in mine to find out what you are.


I think this post felt genuine for example:

On July 24 2014 09:00 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 08:51 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 08:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
On July 24 2014 08:43 Xatalos wrote:
CR, what do you think of Koshi more recently? Do you have something else to share besides your misguided case on me?


Why are you curious about Koshi?


It's just that you wanted to lynch him early on but never mentioned him again. What is he now to you? Scum? Null? Town? What happened?

Reads on other players would be nice as well.


I already said this before, but there's an associative tell between you and Koshi which I can't ignore. Doesn't do much good before you flip.


Looking back at it, it's not really anything like a huge reason to think he's town.

Still there's the fact that he's been pushing me, bringing additional arguments etc. even when the lynch was already swinging into my direction. It feels more like a townie attitude. Scum would more likely watch from the sidelines or even distance themselves from a mislynch wagon.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 24 2014 11:53 GMT
#1119
timer Vivax trying to push me because he can't read: 2
I had a good night of sleep.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 11:53 GMT
#1120
I want to know if Palmar's case is going to be amazing and sheepable.
Bach to the basics.
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