EPTTL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2
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slOosh
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I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this? On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote: My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town. prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads. I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting. Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die. ##Vote: Koshi He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads. Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads? You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here. Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place. On July 08 2014 03:40 Forumite wrote: I think I did this in an earlier game, stating that I have a townread on prplhz for the exact same reason. It ended up disrupting town discussion for most of D1. I should probably stop doing this. Anyway I know I'm shitty at reading anything prplhz does so to make it simple for myself I just won´t vote for him without a VERY good reason. On Toades, I don´t know. It´s OMGUS for voting me and the opposite for (nearly) dropping the case a few hours later. Him pushing for me makes it hard for me to be objective about his play. Others seem to think it makes him slightly townie, whatever. Koshi, I still think he´s scummy, even more than the usual OMGUS for pushing me. His case on me felt like he waited to hitch on to Toades case, adding his own complex reasonings to explain why scum would do what I did, basically WIFOM. He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did. I´m leaving my vote on Koshi. Toades, did you have any questions for me? Both Koshi and Toads have had a little back and forth on why they find Forumite suspicious. He says of Toads that his pushing on himself makes objective reading difficult, so he defers to other's opinions on Toad (slightly townie). Stop. Think. Who else has pushed Forumite and is generally considered townie (or at least not scum)? Koshi has also been pushing Forumite but he doesn't bring that hesitation with Toads to Koshi. He dismisses what Koshi says as WIFOM (it's not). Conclusion: Another inconsistency in his play. Let's crank up the heat. ##Vote: Forumite | ||
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slOosh
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Let's focus y'all. | ||
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Forumite asked you basically the same question. I argue that it is a terrible question more likely to come from scum than town. Do you agree / disagree? | ||
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slOosh
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On July 08 2014 07:41 prplhz wrote: so what? people ask stuff early game, i asked koshi if he was happy he couldn't vote me for the rest of the game, that's kind of like asking for a read too. vivax asks me in post 6 what i feel about iamp people ask each other stuff it's absolutely not a big deal and certainly nothing to call anybody scum for I'm not arguing that my case is ironclad and he must be scum. I'm saying that in the context that he asked the question, in that he already believed you to be town, that it seems off that he would ask you for a general read (opposed to someone specific) given the posts that have happened. To me, it looks more like mafia trying to look like they are active etc, than a town who is actually trying to figure stuff out. Do you see what I am trying to say? | ||
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On July 08 2014 07:49 Vivax wrote: Your entrance on prp was shitty, your bitching about somebody cause he takes too many things into consideration at the same time is shitty. Prp scum cause he's sounding down and whatnot. Cora scum cause he doesn't sound sure enough of himself and puts caveats into his reads. This is shitty cause you use it in the reasoning to townread Forum: If you look at his post and think a bit about it you'll figure that chainsaw is what he thinks means calling out as scummy. When the real meaning is that you attack a guy who is attacking your scumbuddy. Just cause he used that word didn't mean that he meant the same thing you know as chainsawing. But despite suspecting him earlier, you immediately took it that way. Overall I find some of your reasoning weak for jumping on or off these guys. | ||
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slOosh
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On July 08 2014 08:13 Toadesstern wrote: 1) he posted that AFTER I asked him. Why do we, me of all people if the guy is talking about me, have to get that out of him instead of him just outright posting it. 2) There's actually any explanation in there. He calls my entrace on prplhz shitty, that's it. That's not a basis for anything. Same with the rest although a little more volumesque. On top of that he doesn't even have to balls to say I'm mafia, he just calls me wrong in a very annoying manner... Eh I can see where both of you are coming from. Looks like conflict due to different playstyles more than different alignments. | ||
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On July 08 2014 08:17 IAmRobik wrote: After how much time does VE claiming to go play League and him not logging in does it become unacceptable for him to have left thread for no reason other than to leave the thread? Please explain more about how I'm scum. I want to clear this out. | ||
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On July 08 2014 08:25 IAmRobik wrote: I don't like your first post. It makes it seem like you were fully caught up with the thread, without having posted AT ALL previously, and you were ready to bury the shit out of someone with something that was "perfectly prepared". You didn't talk about anything else besides for forumite in the post. Read my posts, read your posts. I'm town. You're mafia. Also, VE STILL hasn't logged into League, a game he claims he was going to play instead of participating in this game of mafia I did read the whole thread, and then chose to start with a case on Forumite. How is that mafia? Am I avoiding talking about something relevant? | ||
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slOosh
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Vivax, this is how I approach big games, I'm sure it will improve as numbers shrink. Unless there is something I want to really hop into and talk about, I probably won't. | ||
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On July 09 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote: Here for 15ish minutes. Vivax, this is how I approach big games, I'm sure it will improve as numbers shrink. Unless there is something I want to really hop into and talk about, I probably won't. And uhh yes I can see how my second point was weaker. I agree with that possibility. | ||
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On July 08 2014 20:44 sinani206 wrote: wow best bus in history. i'll explain why koshi is scum after lunch. Wouldn't a bus mean that forumite, who you read green, is scum? | ||
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On July 08 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote: omg omg omg omg omg !!! The game started  REading up whats going on? Or this. Super excited but doesn't post anything. Ok I'm out for a while. If you guys have specific questions, go ahead and ask me them. If you just want me to be more open with my thoughts, I could do that too but like ... choose the scummiest lurker is bleh. | ||
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slOosh
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But seriously the case on iamp is quite solid. If you actually look at his filter it can be summarized as "Why aren't you doing anything?" when his filter itself is lacking in meaningful contribution and pushing the thread forward. He has posted many posts but it's still not entirely clear what he thinks. He claims to be a leader in this game but nothing of his posts felt like he was trying to lead people to a lynch. Forumite looks better because at least he looks open with his thoughts and there's some progression. ##Unvote: Forumite ##Vote: iamperfection (side note: if the gang of like bunnies and ritoky and friends could please start referring to people strictly by their handles in this game, and stop talking about cake or what have you that would be great) | ||
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