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On July 15 2014 22:27 Koshi wrote:
You asked me for thought on the flipped scum posts Forumite.
What do you think?
About bats and ritocky being mentioned by kush and obiwan? I´m putting bats on null and ritocky with town for now, depending on if I find more about yamato and sloosh. Could be scum trying something risky, could be town being wrong. My reads are all over the place, for a few days I´ve been happy with finding people I´m fairly sure are townies and sheep them but I need to step up my game.
How long do you think we have left on the day?
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On July 15 2014 22:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 22:34 Forumite wrote:On July 15 2014 22:27 Koshi wrote:
You asked me for thought on the flipped scum posts Forumite.
What do you think? About bats and ritocky being mentioned by kush and obiwan? I´m putting bats on null and ritocky with town for now, depending on if I find more about yamato and sloosh. Could be scum trying something risky, could be town being wrong. My reads are all over the place, for a few days I´ve been happy with finding people I´m fairly sure are townies and sheep them but I need to step up my game. How long do you think we have left on the day? Doesn't matter. Give me the 4 names we should lynch into today.
Sloosh, bats, Damdred, ExO
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On July 11 2014 06:05 Vivax wrote:
aahhhhhhh.
Alright guys, now I can focus entirely on this game, let's kill the fucking scum.
There is only two things that feels off in his entire filter, the post above and that he´s not talking about obi and kush much. Vivax was active and seemed pro-town, got extra towniepoints for calling me town after my bad start. He´s disappeared for days, no idea why, no explanation, but before he went offline it looked very good. If I ignore him going AFK then it´s all good. AFK is a really big problem and no idea what to do about that.
Did you think he looked like scum before?
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Vivax seemed town and then went AFK. If he´s town then he´s not helping much, but town doesn´t gain anything from wasting a lynch on him, just another round of scum nightkills. If he´s town at least, there is a chance that he´s a mafia lurker but we have scummy active players too, so I´d prefer not to lynch Vivax.
Based on what happened the day kush was lynched, quoted earlier, I think Sloosh looks bad. I´m prepared to hear cases on Damdred and ExO, Damdred because of prplhz case and ExO because lurker and bad wibes.
##Vote: SlOosh
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On July 16 2014 06:51 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 06:37 Forumite wrote:
Vivax seemed town and then went AFK. If he´s town then he´s not helping much, but town doesn´t gain anything from wasting a lynch on him, just another round of scum nightkills. If he´s town at least, there is a chance that he´s a mafia lurker but we have scummy active players too, so I´d prefer not to lynch Vivax. If you believe this, then why is exo_ on this list and vivax not? Show nested quote +
Based on what happened the day kush was lynched, quoted earlier, I think Sloosh looks bad. I´m prepared to hear cases on Damdred and ExO, Damdred because of prplhz case and ExO because lurker and bad wibes.
##Vote: SlOosh
#1) I want to hear YOUR case on sloosh, I was very specific, could you please be as well. #2) Why are you willing th hear cases? The town mindset is the make cases and find scum, not sit around and wait for cases to come to you. You mafia bro?
Which list? The list I made before making a decission on vivax? Even after checking Vivax I think he´s town, and killing an AFK townie is NOT better than killing an active scum.
1) Sloosh and yamato appeared to try/jump on a ritoky bandwagon while kush was pressured by BM D3, then quickly changed their minds when BM revealed that he had a real check on kush. I think sloosh and yamato are scum and when they heard the accusation against kush they knew it was true and tried to salvage townie points by joining the bandwagon early. In contrast others, like Toades, was skeptic and cast doubt on BM and his claim, which makes sense if you are a townie hearing an unverified claim from someone you previously thought was scummy.
2) ...
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Those early vivax posts look very suspicious
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On July 16 2014 07:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 07:22 Forumite wrote:
1) Sloosh and yamato appeared to try/jump on a ritoky bandwagon while kush was pressured by BM D3, then quickly changed their minds when BM revealed that he had a real check on kush. I think sloosh and yamato are scum and when they heard the accusation against kush they knew it was true and tried to salvage townie points by joining the bandwagon early. In contrast others, like Toades, was skeptic and cast doubt on BM and his claim, which makes sense if you are a townie hearing an unverified claim from someone you previously thought was scummy.
2) ... 1) What do you make of how both of those scum reads being okay with/wanting a lynch on vivax? Also, in your list of 4 people you would lynch between today, yamato was not included; what made him scum between a few hrs ago and now? Here's the list for reminder: Last question, if sloosh is so mafia then why have your reads have aligned with his enough to vote with him all 3 votes? 2) Not really a sufficient response.
Are you really reading my posts? Yamato might be scum if sloosh is scum, their actions look bad but only if there is some connection, yamato looks town otherwise. And what changed is that I read what happened at pages 119-127, I didn´t consider yamato scum until I saw Sloosh and Yamato soft defending kush against BM, I was very clear about when I found this. Did you read 119 and forward? See what I mean?
Did you do proper vote analysis like I asked you to? I´ve voted with the majority for every lynch this game, so has a lot of other people too, that´s why it´s called the majority. Notice that sloosh votes for me too D1? Vote analysis can give great insight when done properly and when scum doesn´t think anyone is analysing voting patterns. You warned them early that you are checking votes so take anything you find with a grain of salt.
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On July 16 2014 15:30 ritoky wrote:
I have read your post, and my initial response is:
1) Almost everyone who has posted this phase except the confirmed town and me seems pretty okay with lynching vivax; doesn't that make you hesitate?
2) If I were to replace vivax's name with exo_ or alakaslam, would the case largely be the same? So why aren't you scum reading them? or reading them at all?
Hey, I don´t want to lynch vivax either.
It´s easy to forget the lurkers. I didn´t check vivax until koshi asked me for a specific read and since then he´s been up for discussion. It could just as easily have been someone else. Not really, ExO and slam could be pushed by a similar case but there´s a difference, they have been active longer and been hard to read during that time, while vivax looked like a townie while he was active and then dropped off. Ignoring the AFK and low activity Vivax is a townie, and ExO and Slam not as much.
10 players, several lurkers that scum don´t need to kill =/. I didn´t think no modkills for inactivity would have this big of an impact.
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On July 16 2014 17:38 Koshi wrote:
You people forgot Alakaslam was banned for a month.
ExO_ is ExO_ he lurks as either alignment.
Forumite. Tell me why SlOosh his case is garbage.
A month, great
Sloosh, he´s scum because of his semi-defence of kush that dropped when the check came in, barely mentions obi or kush until he really needed to. I don´t think he mentions kush's or obi's names anywhere except in the quotes of others. Not necessarily a scumtell but doesn´t look good combined with the FoS D3.
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On July 16 2014 18:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 18:33 Forumite wrote:On July 16 2014 17:38 Koshi wrote:
You people forgot Alakaslam was banned for a month.
ExO_ is ExO_ he lurks as either alignment.
Forumite. Tell me why SlOosh his case is garbage. A month, great Sloosh, he´s scum because of his semi-defence of kush that dropped when the check came in, barely mentions obi or kush until he really needed to. I don´t think he mentions kush's or obi's names anywhere except in the quotes of others. Not necessarily a scumtell but doesn´t look good combined with the FoS D3. That was not my question. Why is slOosh his case bad. Tell me. Because to me and a lot of others slOosh is town.
I don´t understand the question, "Why is sloosh his case bad"? What? I thought you meant "Tell me why Sloosh, his case is garbage", that I should elaborate.
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Vivax, why were you gone?
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On July 16 2014 19:30 Vivax wrote:Is it relevant? If I'm scum who suddenly stopped playing the game for some reason, then I will just make up the reason. If I had a good reason, you got no way of confirming it and I will just waste time explaining it. I'd rather have you judge me for what I actually contribute to solving the game.
Fine, work your magic.
I´m off, back before the deadline.
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7 Voting Damdred:
Toades, Vivax, BM, layabout, Koshi, Hiro, Forumite
4 Voting against a Damdred Lynch:
Sloosh, Damdred, ritoky, yamato
3 Not voting:
ExO, Bats, Alakaslam
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I like sloosh's list and a Vivax lynch.
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On July 17 2014 04:14 slOosh wrote:
Forumite and BM, are you guys on the same page as us? Majority is pretty hard to reach with two inactives, so we all need to be on the same page here.
Yes, I´m with you. I´m not going to go against the majority if it means we have a no-lynch.
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On July 17 2014 21:13 yamato77 wrote:
Forumite, what do you think of my other suspicions and townreads? You called me possible mafia yesterday, and now you vote for the guy I want to lynch. I don't understand.
Koshi trusted you. I was suspicious yesterday, especially when you vote against a Damdred lynch which put town in a bad situation. Damdred flipped green though, which is good for you I guess. Today, I want to lynch vivax, he came back into the thread after an unexplained absence when he was considered for a lynch, diverted the lynch off himself and onto a townie. Scum, scum, scum, I want vivax to die.
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BM, did you find anything?
I didn´t know Koshi was a blue role. Did he reveal this earlier?
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