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@BH- you do see in that last quote where I specifically said "I caught your mafia self d1". How is that not basically saying, ah hah! I caught you.. Whether or no in a lie is not my point.
I AM PUSHING THE WAGON. I have my vote placed on you, we are getting conversation going, and people are commenting on my case, which is how I am getting reads and scum hunting outside of you.
BASED OFF OF INTERACTIONS (<--- directed at sloosh)
I still think you could be scum, and I want you lynched today, because I believe if you arent lynched as scum, you will lead this town into the ground.
Also as for the you "accidently revealing yourself" I'm currently in a game where a hydra accidently posted as himself, so I don't really find you posting as yourself alignment indicative at all.
Anyway, we still have 24 hours for voting. I want to hear more from people outside of the reads on YKZ.
YKZ, let's put our arguing to the backburner right now, cause I'm starting to worry we are two town fighting because it seems others are just watching us unfold and burn.
what are your reads outside of me?
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On June 17 2014 03:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 01:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 17:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find this discussion about YKZ/27nb and its origins really boring and I can't believe we've written so much about such bullshit. Biggest perpetrator of it is Release. He's just rehashed everything that's already said but made it more wordy.
##Vote Release Boring, why so? And I know I'm town, so you think Release is more likely scum defending a town here? Or do you think it's scum defending a partner this early into the game? I'm thinking we're both town here. Though, i agree, he is basically just sayng everything I've already said. Boring because you both just kept repeating the same things but in different words and it wasn't going anywhere for me to get a read on either of you. I don't know your alignment and I'm not going to make an association between unflipped players. People did that in cell. You supported that as mafia. Why are you trying to create associations now? Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 01:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 22:45 goodkarma wrote:On June 16 2014 22:11 VisceraEyes wrote:On June 16 2014 17:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find this discussion about YKZ/27nb and its origins really boring and I can't believe we've written so much about such bullshit. Biggest perpetrator of it is Release. He's just rehashed everything that's already said but made it more wordy.
##Vote Release I kinda like this vote. And I kinda like Artanis' face. Release sounds a lot like he's trying to justify feeling the way he does rather than explaining honestly WHY he feels the way he does. Does anyone else think so? I agree Release is looking scummy, but I wouldn't use that exact wording. He seems heavily invested in his case, but is only leaning towards ninja's side of this debate. These two statements especially didn't sit right with me from Release's post on 21:10 15 June 2014: "As the situation between 27bunnies and YKZ currently stands, I am leaning on the side of 27bunnies." And yet he ends this same post: "I think 27bunnie has the right idea, but has not manifested clearly (or in enough detail) what needs to be said to properly incriminate YKZ." Release doesn't seem that interested in what may develop from YKZ. He already has the verdict in mind... This is a HUGE inconsistency from how he starts his post. You have a point here I really like. Which makes me wonder if scum defending a town here. He's not even considering in what YKZ could or could not do. But then if that's the case, and Release is scum, then YKZ is town, and I don't like that. I really really want to be right that YKZ is scum. This gives me a slight scumread on you. Wanting to be right is an easy reason to lean back on without actually saying anything. Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 02:38 Release wrote:
Currently this is our only point of discussion, although your vote on me now introduces a discussion about me.
wordy words Boring. You could've introduced a discussion about anyone that had an opinion on the case for bullshit reasons. You also keep repeating yourself in the post as well. If you want me to actually read your posts thoroughly, be more to the point. I'm not interested in your description of what you provided and what you want. It won't help me get a more accurate read on you. Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 02:38 slOosh wrote:On June 16 2014 17:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find this discussion about YKZ/27nb and its origins really boring and I can't believe we've written so much about such bullshit. Biggest perpetrator of it is Release. He's just rehashed everything that's already said but made it more wordy.
##Vote Release I'm sorry, how is Release the perpetrator if it started as a spat between YKZ and 27nb? He hasn't rehashed anything, it's original content and wordiness is alignment null. Release made a giant post about stuff that was really boring so I didn't get very far in it. The first part is definitely rehash. You're right in that he did add some original content afterwards though. Wordiness being alignment null is debatable but that debate wouldn't go anywhere so let's agree to disagree on that.
Understandable, which is why I'm trying to move conversation from YKZ and Is fighting elsewhere to get more reads.
People did that in cell badly, and I used it to my advantage as mafia. I still think using associations as town is helpful. Plus I'm getting reads based off what I'm writing and how people question my theories. It's quite interesting. I think you are town.
I want to be right on YKZ, but I know in a game of mafia, I could be wrong. I don't see how this makes me scummy for wanting to be right on a top scumread?
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On June 17 2014 03:13 slOosh wrote:Hmm, not quite feeling the flaming spears of logic and justice yet. Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 12:46 slOosh wrote:
I can see a somewhat reasonable case to be made that bunnies is not a stellar townie, but I don't see the case being made that she must be scum. Why isn't she "bad" town?
Cause I'm not bad.
Or atleast I don't think so. But then again I'm biased towards myself.
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@Lazer- it is no lie that I was weirded out by the vt claim. You can obviously see that. but notice I voted YKZ before he voted me. So your last paragraph makes no sense? I don't vote YKZ until he votes me with kenpachi rule? I voted before that and he omgus the vote instead of actually giving reasons as to why I am scummy.
Also, yes, the other point was the limited information. Still not sure how this makes me scummy?
Your logic here to me seems super bad.
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On June 17 2014 03:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 03:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 03:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 17 2014 01:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 17:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find this discussion about YKZ/27nb and its origins really boring and I can't believe we've written so much about such bullshit. Biggest perpetrator of it is Release. He's just rehashed everything that's already said but made it more wordy.
##Vote Release Boring, why so? And I know I'm town, so you think Release is more likely scum defending a town here? Or do you think it's scum defending a partner this early into the game? I'm thinking we're both town here. Though, i agree, he is basically just sayng everything I've already said. Boring because you both just kept repeating the same things but in different words and it wasn't going anywhere for me to get a read on either of you. I don't know your alignment and I'm not going to make an association between unflipped players. People did that in cell. You supported that as mafia. Why are you trying to create associations now? On June 17 2014 01:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 22:45 goodkarma wrote:On June 16 2014 22:11 VisceraEyes wrote:On June 16 2014 17:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find this discussion about YKZ/27nb and its origins really boring and I can't believe we've written so much about such bullshit. Biggest perpetrator of it is Release. He's just rehashed everything that's already said but made it more wordy.
##Vote Release I kinda like this vote. And I kinda like Artanis' face. Release sounds a lot like he's trying to justify feeling the way he does rather than explaining honestly WHY he feels the way he does. Does anyone else think so? I agree Release is looking scummy, but I wouldn't use that exact wording. He seems heavily invested in his case, but is only leaning towards ninja's side of this debate. These two statements especially didn't sit right with me from Release's post on 21:10 15 June 2014: "As the situation between 27bunnies and YKZ currently stands, I am leaning on the side of 27bunnies." And yet he ends this same post: "I think 27bunnie has the right idea, but has not manifested clearly (or in enough detail) what needs to be said to properly incriminate YKZ." Release doesn't seem that interested in what may develop from YKZ. He already has the verdict in mind... This is a HUGE inconsistency from how he starts his post. You have a point here I really like. Which makes me wonder if scum defending a town here. He's not even considering in what YKZ could or could not do. But then if that's the case, and Release is scum, then YKZ is town, and I don't like that. I really really want to be right that YKZ is scum. This gives me a slight scumread on you. Wanting to be right is an easy reason to lean back on without actually saying anything. On June 17 2014 02:38 Release wrote:
Currently this is our only point of discussion, although your vote on me now introduces a discussion about me.
wordy words Boring. You could've introduced a discussion about anyone that had an opinion on the case for bullshit reasons. You also keep repeating yourself in the post as well. If you want me to actually read your posts thoroughly, be more to the point. I'm not interested in your description of what you provided and what you want. It won't help me get a more accurate read on you. On June 17 2014 02:38 slOosh wrote:On June 16 2014 17:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find this discussion about YKZ/27nb and its origins really boring and I can't believe we've written so much about such bullshit. Biggest perpetrator of it is Release. He's just rehashed everything that's already said but made it more wordy.
##Vote Release I'm sorry, how is Release the perpetrator if it started as a spat between YKZ and 27nb? He hasn't rehashed anything, it's original content and wordiness is alignment null. Release made a giant post about stuff that was really boring so I didn't get very far in it. The first part is definitely rehash. You're right in that he did add some original content afterwards though. Wordiness being alignment null is debatable but that debate wouldn't go anywhere so let's agree to disagree on that. Understandable, which is why I'm trying to move conversation from YKZ and Is fighting elsewhere to get more reads. People did that in cell badly, and I used it to my advantage as mafia. I still think using associations as town is helpful. Plus I'm getting reads based off what I'm writing and how people question my theories. It's quite interesting. I think you are town. I want to be right on YKZ, but I know in a game of mafia, I could be wrong. I don't see how this makes me scummy for wanting to be right on a top scumread? Why do you think using associations between unflipped players is helpful in the current situation? Why do you think I'm town? Do you have any current scumreads other than YKZ? It's scummy because it's something to fall back on. If your arguments fall apart it gives you a reason to continue pushing him, or when the heat returns on him after it disappears you can easily go after him again. It gives you an opening. Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 03:17 slOosh wrote:On June 17 2014 03:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 17 2014 02:38 slOosh wrote:On June 16 2014 17:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find this discussion about YKZ/27nb and its origins really boring and I can't believe we've written so much about such bullshit. Biggest perpetrator of it is Release. He's just rehashed everything that's already said but made it more wordy.
##Vote Release I'm sorry, how is Release the perpetrator if it started as a spat between YKZ and 27nb? He hasn't rehashed anything, it's original content and wordiness is alignment null. Release made a giant post about stuff that was really boring so I didn't get very far in it. The first part is definitely rehash. You're right in that he did add some original content afterwards though. Wordiness being alignment null is debatable but that debate wouldn't go anywhere so let's agree to disagree on that. How is Release the perpetrator if it started as a spat between YKZ and 27nb? He's the perpetrator of the conversation continuing about that specific topic.
You are town because you seem t be trying to figure things outside of ykz and me, rather than just jumping on a bw lynch of one of us. I like this.
Scum outside of YKZ, actually not sure. Not many people have talked in order for me to get a super great read on them.
I'm a bit iffy on snickers.
Also, if I notice associations now, after the flip, the associations become more clear. It's how I've always played the game. I notice connections before flip. It's something we do in video mafia, especially since usually in video mafia, you have no flips. You have to base everything solely on reads and connections.
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On June 17 2014 03:28 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 03:21 slOosh wrote:
Lazermonkey, what is the "scummy stuff" that bunnies is backpedaling from? The quick version: 1. Bunnies says that YKZ's VT claim is wierd and that she doesn't like it. 2. Bunnies says that ANOTHER thing the she doesn't like about YKZ is his "scum slip". Bunnes votes for YKZ. 3. YKZ votes Bunnies because Kenpachi rule. 4. Bunnies claims that the VT claim wasn't a reason she voted YKZ.
4. It wasn't the MAIN reason I voted YKZ.
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On June 17 2014 03:34 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 03:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@Lazer- it is no lie that I was weirded out by the vt claim. You can obviously see that. but notice I voted YKZ before he voted me. So your last paragraph makes no sense? I don't vote YKZ until he votes me with kenpachi rule? I voted before that and he omgus the vote instead of actually giving reasons as to why I am scummy.
Also, yes, the other point was the limited information. Still not sure how this makes me scummy?
Your logic here to me seems super bad. It may be that I worded myself poorly. Look at my response to SlOosh. The fact that you voted YKZ before he voted you is exactly what I am getting at. You didn't say anything about that the VT claim wasn't important untill after he voted you because of Kenpachi.
So here, I know I'm town. Which means the kenpachi rule doesn't apply to me, and I know it doesn't apply to me because I am not scum, and it catches scum, not town.
I looked at your response, and responded. That's why the vt claim isn't important on the BASIS of the kenpachi rule. But I do find it weird he had the need to claim VT. But it wasnt my main reason for voting him.
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On June 17 2014 03:40 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 03:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 03:28 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 17 2014 03:21 slOosh wrote:
Lazermonkey, what is the "scummy stuff" that bunnies is backpedaling from? The quick version: 1. Bunnies says that YKZ's VT claim is wierd and that she doesn't like it. 2. Bunnies says that ANOTHER thing the she doesn't like about YKZ is his "scum slip". Bunnes votes for YKZ. 3. YKZ votes Bunnies because Kenpachi rule. 4. Bunnies claims that the VT claim wasn't a reason she voted YKZ. 4. It wasn't the MAIN reason I voted YKZ. Okay, I'm not really interested in discussing this further with you. My goal isn't to make you confess in the thread. Its to convince the others. It is basically that it is impossible for us to know that what you are claiming is true or not. Based on what you wrote earlier I do find it more likely that you are scum than that you are town though.
Understandable:
also ##Unvote
I know this is not going to get votes off of me, and I'm fine with that.
But YKZ's last few posts have been a bit towny, especially his read on Artansis.
I'm starting to worry we are two town fighting. I also don't want my judgement clouded by my vote on YKZ and would like to hear more from other people.
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On June 17 2014 03:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
But YKZ's last few posts have been a bit towny, especially his read on Artansis. 
Sorry, I'm getting used to this new keyboard. I've made multiple spelling mistakes.
Artanis*
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On June 17 2014 03:58 slOosh wrote:
Could you explain how his read on Artanis is towny?
Because that was one of the reasons I was reading artanis as townie.
YKZ seems to be in the same mindset as me, even though his read on me is completely wrong, but I'm kay with that.
Our discussion has caused many people to talk and comment on things.
Initially my calling YKZ was reaction testing. (I mean I did say YKZ and two others were scummy just to get conversation going). I didn't necessarily like how YKZ jumped on me, but that's okay too.
Then I vtoed him. And many people voted and commented on either side of us. I got reads from that, and Im sure YKZ did too.
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Meh. I don't really think the case is all that strong.
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Chez, Artanis, care to share your thoughts?
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On June 17 2014 05:59 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Chez, Artanis, care to share your thoughts? I thought of a bunch of bunnies getting shotgunned by the sheriff when sleeping through your conversations.
Go ahead if one must.
Probably clear up a lot of information for town.
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On June 17 2014 06:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
I feel kinda stuck atm. Anyone else here? I want to hear more opinions on Artanis. Preferably from Bunnies and YKZ. Do you still think Artanis is town because of that post. Bunnies, you said, you didn't think the case was very good. Why is that? Something in particular?
I'll answer this question when I get back from town!
just letting you knw, I'm not ignoring you.
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On June 17 2014 06:06 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 05:59 Chezinu wrote:On June 17 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Chez, Artanis, care to share your thoughts? I thought of a bunch of bunnies getting shotgunned by the sheriff when sleeping through your conversations. Go ahead if one must. Probably clear up a lot of information for town. In my dreams! As you are totally not getting the picture here, let me draw you the picture of my dream: **CENSORED -- DISTURBING IMAGES -- CENSORED**
Not sure if you want me dead, or want to have sex with me.
Both are quite disturbing images.
So yeah, not getting the picture here.
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On June 17 2014 06:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 06:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
I feel kinda stuck atm. Anyone else here? I want to hear more opinions on Artanis. Preferably from Bunnies and YKZ. Do you still think Artanis is town because of that post. Bunnies, you said, you didn't think the case was very good. Why is that? Something in particular? I'll answer this question when I get back from town! just letting you knw, I'm not ignoring you.
YEs, I do.
I just don't like the reasoning of Artanis not wanting to comment on either YKZ or me. I find this more townie, because he is looking for scum outside of us and trying to get reads outside of us.
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On June 17 2014 06:41 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 06:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 06:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 06:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
I feel kinda stuck atm. Anyone else here? I want to hear more opinions on Artanis. Preferably from Bunnies and YKZ. Do you still think Artanis is town because of that post. Bunnies, you said, you didn't think the case was very good. Why is that? Something in particular? I'll answer this question when I get back from town! just letting you knw, I'm not ignoring you. YEs, I do. I just don't like the reasoning of Artanis not wanting to comment on either YKZ or me. I find this more townie, because he is looking for scum outside of us and trying to get reads outside of us. Wat. Or he is scum not giving out information. This should be a null tell IMO.
You view it as scummy, i view it as townie.
I don't see what you mean by not giving information. The only way that would work is if one us either me or YKZ was scum WITH artanis. But I dn't see that.
He is still attempting to get information outside of us.
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On June 17 2014 07:01 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 06:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 06:41 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 17 2014 06:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 06:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 06:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
I feel kinda stuck atm. Anyone else here? I want to hear more opinions on Artanis. Preferably from Bunnies and YKZ. Do you still think Artanis is town because of that post. Bunnies, you said, you didn't think the case was very good. Why is that? Something in particular? I'll answer this question when I get back from town! just letting you knw, I'm not ignoring you. YEs, I do. I just don't like the reasoning of Artanis not wanting to comment on either YKZ or me. I find this more townie, because he is looking for scum outside of us and trying to get reads outside of us. Wat. Or he is scum not giving out information. This should be a null tell IMO. You view it as scummy, i view it as townie. I don't see what you mean by not giving information. The only way that would work is if one us either me or YKZ was scum WITH artanis. But I dn't see that. He is still attempting to get information outside of us. No, I think its null... It seems that you have already decided that Artanis is town because you interpret every action he does as if he was town... W/e good night
Umm excuse me? I don't view everything he does as townie based on that. I don't KNOW who is town nor who is mafia, other than myself. I don't have that information! Im basing my read on what he talks about and what he is doing.
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On June 17 2014 06:44 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 06:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 06:06 Chezinu wrote:On June 17 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 05:59 Chezinu wrote:On June 17 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Chez, Artanis, care to share your thoughts? I thought of a bunch of bunnies getting shotgunned by the sheriff when sleeping through your conversations. Go ahead if one must. Probably clear up a lot of information for town. In my dreams! As you are totally not getting the picture here, let me draw you the picture of my dream: **CENSORED -- DISTURBING IMAGES -- CENSORED** Not sure if you want me dead, or want to have sex with me. Both are quite disturbing images. So yeah, not getting the picture here.  Its Day 1.. The center of discussion is not about Chezinu. Chezinu must do something. riddle: sHow smany shotgun shots should sa shotgun shoot sto shred stwenty-seven sninja sbunnies? No... That will not do... It must be bigger... like a revolution against a common enemy! The Sheriff! Listen herehear Sheriff! You cannot control everything! You make your laws saying no pictures and no free expression in Art anis! Well, let me make pictures with words! Imagine... Facing The Sheriff.. With a flag of rebellion in hand... Saying, "No We Can!" Marching Marching.. In the front lines of a new movement! Waving your stance high in the air but under the clouds... The revolutionary flag: + Show Spoiler +NONONONONONONONONONONONONO
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This post makes as much sense as Alakaslam's posting.
I fear the day if I'm ever in a game with both of you in it.
On June 17 2014 06:43 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 06:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 06:06 Chezinu wrote:On June 17 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 05:59 Chezinu wrote:On June 17 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Chez, Artanis, care to share your thoughts? I thought of a bunch of bunnies getting shotgunned by the sheriff when sleeping through your conversations. Go ahead if one must. Probably clear up a lot of information for town. In my dreams! As you are totally not getting the picture here, let me draw you the picture of my dream: **CENSORED -- DISTURBING IMAGES -- CENSORED** Not sure if you want me dead, or want to have sex with me. Both are quite disturbing images. So yeah, not getting the picture here. Well, Chezinu is Chezinu. But I think he wants to kill you.
I think so too.
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Gah, Release is sooo town for me.
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