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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 06 2014 23:05 GMT
#1393
In 3 hours
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 06 2014 23:24 GMT
#1415
austin is back!

Let's hope his return is more triumphant than that of yamato.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 06 2014 23:46 GMT
#1425
Also it's not very useful since the plan is already in motion. Better focus on the lynch now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 06 2014 23:48 GMT
#1426
Well basically you had a slight point about there being changes to the roles based on if the receiver is town/Mafia. It's certainly possible and worth some thought. But it's not a reason to shut down the plan and certainly not worth spending a ton of time on when clearly it's just unlikely that this branch of thought would have any major impact.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#1429
Well, the bad reason is just that, that the host could change the roles after they're given out. Certainly there could be some slight changes, for example to DT (since otherwise it would be useless for Mafia), but that's just a bad reason to undermine the plan. But if you don't think I'm scum then why are you focusing so much on me?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#1431
Or the plan in general. It's not like we're going to change it now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:08 GMT
#1438
On March 07 2014 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"You picked [blue]Day vigilante[blue]. Actually you don't have a gun but instead you have two smellyflowers you can give to people of your choice. Smellyflowers smell so bad the person is unable to post in thread for 24 hours once they have been given a smellyflower. Now i know you wanted to be a day vigilante but instead you became smellyflowerguy so trololol i'm a b-mod!"

-austin


Lol something related to that is probably going to happen now
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:15 GMT
#1447
On March 07 2014 09:08 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 09:00 Xatalos wrote:
Well, the bad reason is just that, that the host could change the roles after they're given out. Certainly there could be some slight changes, for example to DT (since otherwise it would be useless for Mafia), but that's just a bad reason to undermine the plan. But if you don't think I'm scum then why are you focusing so much on me?
Show nested quote +
All roles that may be chosen are in the spoilers below. Roles may have additional alterations based on whether they are picked by Town, Mafia or Third Party. Players who draft these roles may or may not be informed of these alterations after receiving these roles.
I still can't tell what you think my reasons were, and why they're bad.

You think it's bad because the host wouldn't just change roles after they go out, even though the OP says there may be modifications and then goes on to add that you might or might not get notified of modifications, indicating that a couple different roles would change based on alignments (otherwise why make a notified/no notified distinction?)? Or it's bad to EVER undermine a plan that rayn comes up with? Or bad to undermine THIS plan?

Like, when I read your post, it says that I, myself, have bad reasons for resisting. Scummy reasons or just not good reasons to question things?


I'm going to assume that geript won't make any unnecessary changes. Otherwise it wouldn't really make sense to "choose" the roles in the first place.

With that in mind, it's just bad to persist with this line of thought when clearly it's not going to change anything (nor it should). It wasn't bad or scummy when you first brought up this idea, but then you proceeded to just focus on that (which was distracting and generally anti-town). The time could have been spent much better and frankly it would have been better if you had never continued on that topic even if it meant going AFK. I can't say it makes you anyhow really scummy but it doesn't make you look good either.

Now focus on something better for a change...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:25 GMT
#1449
I guess I'll be staying up until lynch after all. *yawn*
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:26 GMT
#1451
On March 07 2014 09:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We also need to kill gumshoe, he has been really active in the other game and not in this game.
austin - gumshoe - yamato


Sadly I think it might also have to do with his "Xatalos curse"....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:31 GMT
#1455
On March 07 2014 09:30 marvellosity wrote:
killing all the inactive players really fast, hoping we hit a mafia or two in there and then solving the game from there sounds like a generally good plan to me


I'd generally agree. It didn't work so well in GoT though :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:33 GMT
#1457
You probably won't be here for long either.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:38 GMT
#1461
It's good to have a healthy self-esteem.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:39 GMT
#1462
Although I do agree that scum deserved to win in that game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:41 GMT
#1464
I guess rayn+marv+Artanis are town. If one of them is still alive later on then it's probably worth checking out but I'll refrain from suspecting them for now. It'll be so much more useful to check people on the grey area.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:42 GMT
#1466
I really hope he didn't just disappear. But if he did, he should probably be lynched.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:43 GMT
#1467
On March 07 2014 09:42 marvellosity wrote:
you do say some odd things, Xata.


How come?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:43 GMT
#1469
For example?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:46 GMT
#1472
It just means that I won't be using the check on any of you tonight.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 07 2014 00:47 GMT
#1476
On March 07 2014 09:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
He said weird stuff in I'm a cop too. I'm good with Xata.


"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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