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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 00:00 GMT
#737
but we're supposed to know who has the dayvig and the assassin. If they are silent, tell them both to kill each other. Only one will succeed.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 00:01 GMT
#739
ebwop, response to austin:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 06 2014 08:58 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 08:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 06 2014 08:49 austinmcc wrote:
Specifically,
On March 05 2014 13:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's like fakeclaim and die. Shoot someone and die. Roleblock someone you are not supposed to and die.
If you are mafia DT then just rofl.

this worries me. We've basically been TOLD things won't happen as expected.

On March 05 2014 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trust me, this is really easy.

If assassin takes an unaccounted shot, day/night vigi shoots them because they claim mafia.
Same goes vice versa.

Every time we decide on a shot the roleblocker and jailer target each other so the shot is guaranteed to go through. If they don't, they claim mafia.

That way we control all the non-mafia factional KP in the game which is far better than leave it up for a chance that mafia picks KP-roles and we are fucked.

Again, vigis, roleblockers, jailers, and all roles that we don't expect to have KP all have to work like we think they will.

On March 05 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Once per game during any phase, you may PM the host to select a player by sending ##Assassinate: Player Name Role Name. If you correctly guessed that player's role name, then that player will instantly be targeted with 1KP wihich will be processed as soon as the host receive the PM and you will be able to use this ability one additional time on the following cycle..

Assassin kills someone. They die. We know the assassin killed them.

Assassin has to be the only silent insta-kill. scum day vigi can't work like that or scum vigis an important townie, we kill the assassin, things fall apart, etc.


I LIKE THE THOUGHT BUT THIS RELIES ON US BEING IN A DIFFERENT GAME

scum would need to be both the assassin and the dayvig for this to work, and then we can lynch them both...
Eh?

If roles are modified based on faction picking, a scum day vigi could be "type in thread and shoot that dude" "type in thread shoot different dude" "silent daykill" "something else"

If the role doesn't work exactly as stated, say if it's silent or it hits someone else (which I guess is also silent), then things didn't work like the plan needs them to. I suppose if you hit someone else, that's not a very townie modification and we assume scum, but if day vigi can be modified to be silent, then when the day vigi shoots, we assume it's the assassin, and then we lynch the assassin.

Whatever the assassin's alignment, he's gonna go "I didn't shoot that guy", but as far as we know, assassin is the only possible silent shot, so we think he's lying. Town or scum, a silent shot went off, assassin has the only silent shot we know of, therefore assassin did it and is lying, therefore lynch. It wouldn't require scum to have both?

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 00:05 GMT
#746
not liking how far gumshoe's foot is crammed into his mouth here.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 00:23 GMT
#755
LSB you coming back or was that ninja vote simply because you realized there was a votethread?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 00:25 GMT
#756
marv are austin's concerns about what I would essntially call bastard modding legit? I don't see his problems actually...being problems
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 00:34 GMT
#766
On March 06 2014 09:32 austinmcc wrote:
(Caps are for emphasis and fun, not anger)

As always buddy

I think you are drastically overestimating how much the roles can be changed
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 00:46 GMT
#778
You are Assassin

you cant activate kp roles in the last 12 hours LSB

-> JOAT is supposed to use rb's, not kp. I'd like to argue for using the DT power, but that's just me. Under no circumstances should the JOAT be shooting.

If town claims their roles and uses them accordingly, the day-vig will get shot as a 2nd lynch, same as the night-vig, same as the assassin.

If you are directed to shoot someone and refuse, you will be lynched. End of discussion. This plan requires absolute compliance. That means you have to die.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 00:48 GMT
#780
On March 05 2014 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It does not really matter who the JoaT is because you just roleblock someone at N1 and that's it, then they are vanilla.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 02:22 GMT
#803
Rayn's plan would have us:

1. Palmar - Day-Vig
2. Oatsmaster - Universal Backup
3. prplhz - Night Vig
4. Hopeless1der - Assassin
5. Artanis[Xp] - Roleblocker
6. marvellosity
7. yamato77
8. austinmcc
9. Xatalos
10. gumshoe
11. LSB
12. raynpelikoneet
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 02:33 GMT
#806
I want everyone to publically post when theyve submitted their draft. Ideally in order but chances are that won't happen
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 04:05 GMT
#815
i dont know about confirmed...but i'd gladly lynch either of them.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:30 GMT
#1040
On March 06 2014 20:23 marvellosity wrote:
I have been thinking about Oats a little. I wonder if it's worth someone near the bottom of the draft 2nd picking Universal Backup, just in case :x

I'm going to pick UBU. If mafia pick it up along the way, we'd be none the wiser.

If Oats is scum, he can pick anything other than assassin (probably JOAT based on all the speculation discussion) then causing mass chaos as best he can. A scumbuddy would have to take UBU so that Oats can copy/paste, but the damage would be done by then.

Unless me or prpl, in addition to Oats are scum (which is incredibly unlikely) then I think this is the safest thing for me to do with my pick.

If everything goes according to plan, I'm just VT which scarcely matters because of the hive mind.


I HAVE NOT YET SUBMITTED A ROLE
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:31 GMT
#1041
also [9][2]
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:36 GMT
#1050
On March 06 2014 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not knowing which one of Hopeless/Oats is lying is too much room for error. Mafia can sac one person for complete distrust.

okay if thats the preference i'll stick to the plan. Going to submit for normal vig in ~30 minutes
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:40 GMT
#1060
On March 06 2014 19:42 prplhz wrote:
I just picked dayvig



Assassin (Palmar)
Universal Backup (Oatsmaster)
Day-Vig (prplhz)
Vig (hopeless)
Roleblocker (Artanis)




6. marvellosity
7. yamato77
8. austinmcc
9. Xatalos
10. gumshoe
11. LSB
12. raynpelikoneet

Vet
JOAT
Role Cop
DT
JK
Doc
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:47 GMT
#1073
On March 06 2014 23:46 Xatalos wrote:
Btw if we're going to mass claim N1, isn't it better to organize getting the roles to avoid duplicates?

what do you think we're doing right now?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:50 GMT
#1076
On March 06 2014 23:48 Xatalos wrote:
I meant the ones below the top 5.

I actually think thats bad. I'd rather they be hidden
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:52 GMT
#1079
okay i will be submitting vig. still ~10 minutes in case you wanna tell me otherwise rayn
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:54 GMT
#1081
thats what i thought, then i realized there would be many vt's if it was a FFA draft
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 06 2014 14:54 GMT
#1082
no wait thats not what i said, but thats still true.
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