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On March 04 2014 11:23 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 11:15 geript wrote:
Since you're not playing daily mafia, I want you to answer this:
Why am I confirmed town? If you think because mod would have said something in QT instead if you were mafia, this makes you confirmed town, and that's why you've been pushing it all game, I'm sorry but you have another thing coming. If that's not the reason, well I can honestly say I don't care what the reason is. You should know very well even in LXI where it was the biggest issue I have never considered 'mod-confirmed' to be a thing. I also don't know if that question was directed towards me, but I'm here and in a playing mood atm.
I answered this, Geript said he was driving, mod cited the op "no playing mafia while driving" if you take this literally, geript cannot be considered mafia, only town. Because theres no ban on playing town while driving.
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Of course if your someone who doesn't appreciate bullshit, fear not, mafia is the title of the game as well as a role within it. Therefore town can play mafia, just not as mafia.
Basically it's silly, Geript is bieng silly, if you bilieve him your silly.
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On March 04 2014 11:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 11:25 gumshoe wrote:On March 04 2014 11:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2014 11:15 geript wrote:
Since you're not playing daily mafia, I want you to answer this:
Why am I confirmed town? If you think because mod would have said something in QT instead if you were mafia, this makes you confirmed town, and that's why you've been pushing it all game, I'm sorry but you have another thing coming. If that's not the reason, well I can honestly say I don't care what the reason is. You should know very well even in LXI where it was the biggest issue I have never considered 'mod-confirmed' to be a thing. I also don't know if that question was directed towards me, but I'm here and in a playing mood atm. I answered this, Geript said he was driving, mod cited the op "no playing mafia while driving" if you take this literally, geript cannot be considered mafia, only town. Because theres no ban on playing town while driving. That's definitely not it lol. Anyway this discussion is silly to begin with. I need to go back to looking at Chyz because I want to see if that earlier reason actually precludes him from being scum, because going into today I think he's probably the best choice.
It really is,
Geript: Driving. I thought you wanted me to post on the detunnel thing.
Balla: Please cool it with the personal attacks. Thanks. Reminder not to play mafia while driving.
Please cool it with the personal attacks. Thanks. Reminder not to play mafia while driving.
Geript:Sweet. I just got modconfirmed town. THanks.
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On March 04 2014 21:38 Vivax wrote:
Guys let's lynch geript please.
He refused to take a side in the D1 lynch. Sure, it would look shitty if he joined the wagon on Mocsta together with his scumread, but then why not join the one on suki. He did the same thing TheChyz did (and I only noticed just now)
Read his filter, where does he urge me to shoot Toad? He said it's like JJD/Toad during the night, next day he gives him the super townread to push Cava.
He has one post where he says Toad and Chyz can't be scum together, later asks for a check on him from Cava.
Like, sure he can argue that he just changed his mind that easily over time, I do that too. But the thing about geript is that he doesn't express doubt about his reads. Like, he goes from "x has to be y" to "x has to be z" without really weighing in both sides. He makes decisions on how he should read people.
##Unvote
##Vote geript
I'm with you, another thing to consider if we're dealing with a toad Geript scum team, it explains why they let the shot through, Geript wasn't likely to get shot, and toad clearly thought he wasn't going to be.
But even if the shot goes through, because they bussed so hard, whichever one dies makes the other look great. Which is why they were probably not that scared of the bullet landing. Your totally right though about him suddenly lightening up on toad at night, he even states in passing that Sukis flip makes toad more likely to be town. In fact Geript, why did you thnk that? You never explained your reasoning.
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On March 05 2014 03:19 geript wrote:First off, anyone who doesn't think I'm confirmed town should read Duke Nukem Hydra 2 to understand why I'm confirmed town. Holyflare, if you're town making this push then I'm going to get Marv to personally give you a spanking for reading me so badly; unfortunately I think you're town but at this piont I really don't care. Quite frankly, anywho who votes for me better say that i'm too damn good at this game which is why they think I can't be town. If you aren't willing to lynch me for being too good or too accurate then you can get off my nuts. Like I shouldn't even have to explain myself, but since you guys aren't as good as I am, I'll be more than happy to rock your worlds. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:34 suki wrote:On February 26 2014 09:10 Toadesstern wrote:
suki how's life? Still mafia/jester like the last 3 games? I heard you've got a habbit of rolling mafia I just claimed Harry Potter if you weren't reading so life is pretty swag. And IRC mafia doesn't count. So what's the plan this game Toad? Gonna slip up early in Day 1 and give us an easy scum lynch like our last game together? I flat out didn't think suki was the type of player say that to a scum partner. I was wrong. So yah, I backed off of Toad some. I would like to make the following statement publically in my defense, "I'm sorry town for backing off on Toad. I apologize, I had my dick so deep inside him all day long that I just had to pull it out for a second so it could get some air. I'm so sorry that I wasn't able to convince you will all of my amazing reasonings so that we could have a scum v scum lynch. I really can't help you guys there but you guys should really play in the newbies more often. Getwrekt 4 life bitches!!!!" *stands leaning back arms crossed over chest trying to look like a thug but probably just looking like a cracker* As for the reasons why I didn't switch off Toad are pretty simple. Toad was my read; I didn't really like HF's reasoning for wanting to lynch suki; I didn't have a read on HF. I would've saved Mocsta only because I had a townread on him and I had nothing on suki and I prefer a lynch on not-town. Plus it didn't hurt that ryan didn't really give a whole lot for voting her so between HF's unreadable push and Rayn's vote I felt pretty confident that suki was an ok lynch. As for what HF said, you guys are stupid. The miller interaction was a great interaction to call bs on. You guys should've lynched him on that. Or like any of the other things I brought up. You guys are right. I was so goddamn right on Toad and you guys were so goddamn useless in saying that he's totes town. Next time I will spend more time on how how goddamn right and amazing I am and challenged everyone else is not to see it. So yah, I'm bad for not having a scumread on Suki. I'll take that. But if you guys lynch me for being too right on toad and too right on my reads on Mocsta, JJD, Rayn, gumshoe, Vivax at least two of The Chyz/Ange/WoS. And being so goddamn right on them D1 (JJD might have been a N1 thing to be fair but I count it and you guys were bad sheep for not listenting to me when I was calling him town), then you know I will happily be lynched for that shit. Because that's the funniest shit ever and I'll get the best fun in postgame.
Sorry Geript, if your town your too good, we must be as brutus was to caesar ) :
In general I dont like how Geript preys on emotions to sway us, like when he was pushing us to lynch cav "cmon guys, ill look like an idiot if he flips town" or how now hes saying "lol please lynch me for bieng too good".
Geript, your non game related incentives dont do much to convince me your town ) : and niether do your apologies. You pushed toad in such a manner that he was never getting lynched, then when night rolls around and all you have to do is beg Vivax to make your dream come true, instead you basically back off toad all together. Isa too convenient.
Another scary thought is this.
LYNCH IT WITH FIRE GUIS!!!!!! LYNCH IT WITH FIRE!!!!
Worst roleclaim ever... didn't even think of telling us who he checked. Total scumclaim.
After cav claimed, geript wanted to lynch him even more 0_0 which is insane considering vivax did the same thing yesterday and was able to prove his alignment over night, thereby gaining town a confirmed townie and a shot mafia, why the hell wouldn't a townie want cav to get a read?
Welp, if Geript isnt town, just now he had to waste one of his last shots killing someone who looked scummy as hell before the claim. If we had to let one person go to lylo of the people not on suki, between geript, cav, chyz and jar, who would it be? Geript obviously, having to shoot cav must have really sucked.
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On March 05 2014 04:20 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 04:02 gumshoe wrote:
After cav claimed, geript wanted to lynch him even more 0_0 which is insane considering vivax did the same thing yesterday and was able to prove his alignment over night, thereby gaining town a confirmed townie and a shot mafia, why the hell wouldn't a townie want cav to get a read?
Welp, if Geript isnt town, just now he had to waste one of his last shots killing someone who looked scummy as hell before the claim. If we had to let one person go to lylo of the people not on suki, between geript, cav, chyz and jar, who would it be? Geript obviously, having to shoot cav must have really sucked. No. Vivax was really towny based on meta. Like as town, he uses really weird and crazy reasonings that are often so off base. That's something that's really hard to explain. Plus, how the Vivax claim came out was really, really different. Cav's claim was really different; Cav's timing for his claim was fine it's just how it was done was really really scummy. I don't blue hunt so it's really easy for me to get red/blue mixed up. The reason why I should've gotten off of Cav is something I should've known and something that we talked about on daily mafia last night; newbies rarely fake claim, like their claims are almost always true. I had him read as an uncomfortable new player; me not taking into account the new player aspect of that was bad of me. I was just too tunneled in on being right to actually correctly evaluate that read. Is ok gummy bear, I still think you're town. Why won't you just be in my pocket cause I'm so goddamn cute?
I still think im town too ) : and I wish I could feel the same way about you man, I'm not saying your explanations are bad, it's just that they are exactly that, explanations for some pretty sketchy deeds, at this point it's becoming more and more apparent that the last scummer is playing a pretty ruthless game and "woops made a bad read" just isn't going to cut it anymore.
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On March 05 2014 04:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Unless, you know, Chyz.
Hes not going anywhere / :
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On March 05 2014 04:50 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 04:49 gumshoe wrote:On March 05 2014 04:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Unless, you know, Chyz. Hes not going anywhere / : As in, we're not lynching him today? Or literally? Also gumshoe, do YOU want to explain our early interaction to geript? I think I exhausted myself trying to get it through rayn's thick skull at the time.
As in we still have one more mislynch after todays, so if hes scum he wont get far and I really dont want to go to lylo with him if it comes to that.
I had no issue with our interaction, I've had similar bouts between xatalos as well because I can be a frustrating prospect going into a game. Honestly if I'm not getting immediately pressured or called out for inactivity somethings probably wrong / :
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Woops, ignore the above, Geripts orders XD
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Yeah sorry geript ) : I dont like ange as scum, in rock band mafia her filter was twice as long and alot more aggresive, the game was shorter too. Rather not kill wos or hf cause one of them is likely to be shot if the other is scum, so I rather wait on that before I entertain thoughts of a super good scum game.
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On March 06 2014 08:27 TheChyz wrote:
This whole thing is annoying now. Like ange martyring just because she was under a bit of pressure is really weird. It seems like a very noobie thing (something that I might do) since it just seems more like lazyness of not wanting to play instead of actually trying to help town. But on the flip side geript has been disrupting town with his stupid posts. I really dunno if geript is a better lynch than ange but either way, both are just becoming a liability towards town. However I will keep my vote on geript just because I still think that he's the more scummy of the 2 and also much more disruptive to town.
Ange hasnt had the time to play all game, her wanting an easy out fits perfectly.
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Sigh, I doubt shes scum, but I was wrong last time and Vivax dies tonight, so may as well give him his last hail mary shot. Although I'm Pretty darn sure were gonna be in this spot again 72 hours from now ) :
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I still wanna lynch Geript tommorow if thats ok / : pretty sad we wasted one of your last two lynches on Ange, but whateves, ill probally just have to settle this all at lylo T_T
Vivax, care to comment some more before death.
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I've been through all filters pretty much and I've come to some conclusions.
Holy. Not lynching this guy period.
Wos. Not lynching this guy either.
We may as well just vote tomorrow, cause be it then or at lylo, I'm voting Chyz. Some thoughts, when Suki made her case on chyz, there were already several scum reads and votes on him. Mocsta also remained her primary read, which means if he flipped green, that would give her a great excuse to revaluate her reads.
Oh and heres how Suki regarded toad.
I didn't really understand why toad and rayn called each other town, but it didn't strike me as completely odd. Certainly not scummy.
I wish I had time to read Mocsta's response to me and also this thing with geript/toad.
Highly neutral evasive tone.
Heres how toad regarded suki.
I'll look into vivax and suki like I said yesterday but all this came up first and I'm out with my dog now... sooo see you in 2 hours or so.
The one thing I like the most about the case is probably the "shitting on townatmosphere" thing and I really don't understand that at all. Same goes for suki and Cavalinho as my f5 skills seem to indicate.
So yeah I'd much rather lynch geript or Mocsta today. On to rereading that situation from earlier today.
Again very neutral, with the potential to develop the read either way.
Lastly, heres how toad regards chyz
Read as in, make a read on him.
Him being mafia and you being mafia is a contradiction to me. The only thing I've got on him is that he's maybe soft-calling me town, while you claimed mafia in the thread, so yes I'm ignoring him for now.
Eerily similar to how he approaches Suki, no?
and in his chart he has chyz firmly at neutral, thats all the mention he makes of him.
As for Chyz himself, his early attack on Geript can be seen as an indirect defense of toad and although he somewhat reciprocated Sukis animosity he too had someone(Geript) to act as vote buffer between them(just as suki had Moc).
Vivax would probably be my vote if geript wasn't in this game. Maybe tied with suki but I would have to reread his and her filter closer to see exactly who I prefer.
Sure enough, come lynch neither of them are voting for each other, even though chyz pretty much said he would.
Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will
We were in a very volatile situation, one in which Mocsta, who was almost completely off of Chyz's radar, might get lynched in favour of someone Chyz had just about openly condemned. And we know for a fact he was there around hammer cause he was posting right up until the flip(he was certainly there when the vote reached 5,5, and yet he did nothing about it)
As for why Chyz didnt outright save his gf, it's actually a good thing he didnt, had he done so town would have agreed to lynch him and Suki so fast Vivax wouldnt have even gotten the chance to fire his gun.
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I mean, Holy orchestrated the suki lynch, so hes out, Wos's posting and the way comes around to things is just too genuine, and his filter is big enough to find jewels like this.
Vivax can shoot Toad tonight for all I care.
You've played well today and yes there's no reason you shouldn't be included in the big fuzzy town circle.
it doesn't mean your D1 was productive even IF Toad was scum. Part of playing the game is trying to assure that people listen to you (and for whatever reason, it appears to be more difficult for certain people than others).
Ignoring town requests and acting annoying and stubborn doesn't award you any points even if you caught the entire scumteam 1h into the game.
Yes, I admit I may very well have been wrong about Toad (and I think I admitted that earlier) especially considering his activity or lack thereof today, and I will look into him.
One thing that I should mention is this awful martyring is likely to come from town, though it's probably also important to consider Toad has done exactly this same thing as town in a recent game (forget which one, think it was BttB?) where Rayn was involved so I can't see any reason to think it could be on purpose as well. I also share the view that it's extremely silly of Toad to think saccing himself will get you lynched.
Why would wos outright attack his scum buddy for a plan they both probably came up with together, and then proceed to let the shot through? The answer is he doesnt, because hes town.
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Ebwop, everything above the qoute thats not in the first two sentences should also be qouted.
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##Vote:Chyz
Lets end this, hes making it to lylo no matter what and unless wos or hf scum claim out of the kindness of thier hearts I am not lynching him.
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On March 07 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Gonna hardcore filter dive the both of them to make sure first.
Gg vivax :/
I want you to watch for how steadily Wos's reads develop, like theres no jolts, it's uncanny. If hes scum all I gots to say is thats some damm fine play.
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