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On February 21 2014 22:14 Palmar wrote: I have a plan. If toad flips mafia we lynch Oats, if he flips town we lynch kush. This plan is really bad because they are mosty likely all town.
I don't even know where my vote is at so: ##unvote Vote: suki
Toad will flip town. There is no direction in suki's play, not before i left the thread and not after. marv does not see it and instead of saying so he ignores the scummy stuff suki does and "goes on to find something townie". He even said later on "when i find scummy things i pressure those people into posting what i want to totally make up my mind on them. That's not what he is doing with suki at all and it's either terrible or scum. Fucking 14 pages of filter is the only thing that makes me doubt myself... Balla is also most likely mafia.
trust me, Toad will flip town.
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It's not an association theory of any sort. marv thought suki is mafia and was not interested in finding out more of her. Pretty simple shit. suki has made some bad cases, didn't push any of them and surprise surprise ended up on Toad.
Your posts are some useless chatting and inbetween there is a lot of big posts you do not follow up in any way. That's charcteristic to your mafia play as is defending me for no reason.
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Toad's play makes no sense from mafia perspective and at the start of the game noone payed attention to marv's case on him enough to vote for him and now pretty much everyone is voting for him. Noone has even given any reasoning for their votes other than marv and Palmar.
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On February 22 2014 04:20 Koshi wrote: hmm. How about marv saying it is 100% likely that Toad is mafia but changing it a bit later into 95%. Cheap trick to do it that as scum. Quite early as well.
Toad refuses to comment on anybody else but you and marv. Why is that? Does this make sense from mafia!Toad's perspective? To refuse to comment on anything but ma and marv? Especially if we are both town?
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suki stood by her cases and did push them. Not doing so here.
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No Toad is not mafia. Palmar is town.
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Whatever, lynch Toad then. I am telling you he will flip town. I am not going to repeat myself so go ahead and lynch him then. Maybe you will listen to me after that.
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On February 22 2014 04:32 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: Rayn, do you really think Balla can put all this effort in as scum? Have you seen a scum Balla game? The difference is night and day. Yes i have seen his scum games. I have also lynched him on D1 and D2 in those games.
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I am interested Fluffer. You have read those games i assume as you brought that up. Why do you not know this?
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On February 22 2014 04:41 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 22 2014 04:32 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: Rayn, do you really think Balla can put all this effort in as scum? Have you seen a scum Balla game? The difference is night and day. Yes i have seen his scum games. I have also lynched him on D1 and D2 in those games. Based on those games I find it really hard to believe you actually think a lot of what you're saying right now about me and about suki.... This whole seems so convoluted from you rayn. Then fucking vote for me.
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Balla's scumread on Toad is so terrible it can't possibly come from a townie. It has nothing to do with what Toad has done in this game and how it makes him mafia.
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Seriously, look at this:
Toad's only scum read seems to be me. That's pretty bad... especially considering his case on me was almost solely based on early game meta, and even though I agree that my early game could possibly be interpreted as similar to my scum games, I think he was purposefully misrepresenting both what I was saying in the early game, and the context which you can see what I said about it here:
I find it weird that someone would write a meta case on what LITTLE i had in the thread at that time, especially in comparison to what everybody else was doing in regards to me which was just "wait and see". I think it's a weak attempt to try to draw attention to someone who opened pretty weakly.
I think it's annoying that he focused so heavily on the rayn subject and responding to questioning about it. May not be his fault, but even if I was in his shoes I would have attempted to get my opinions out on somebody else as well. I wasn't around so I don't know how rapid fire this stuff was going on. As soon as it ended he wrote a case on me and then nothing else. Looking forward to his contributions in the rest of the day. 1) so he called something scummy scummy. it makes him mafia? 2) not scummy in the slightest 3) i don't even know what this is about. Toad did something and then did something else? That makes him mafia. WHAT THE FUCK?
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The best part is you never even say why any of this is scummy!!
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1) wrong. He saw something scummy based one meta and called you out of it. You said you could play like this as scum. That makes Toad's argument not scummy. Maybe wrong, but you can't possibly say it's scummy to call something scummy scummy. That's just retarded.
2) It's not scummy, it's pressure. I don't need to tell you what Toad has done after that, that was not a part of your case. Don't change your argument in the middle of one. That's bullshit.
3) So what? That's not what you say in the last paragraph. You don't say it's scummy and you don't explain why it's scummy. You say you need to hear more from him. That's what you say, not "scummy", but "need to hear more".
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On February 22 2014 05:05 Balla24 wrote: Rayn pls, 3rd time, what do you think of kush? town.
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Balla you are making a new case as we speak. Why don't you answer my concerns in your original case intead of making a new one? And if you think these new points you bring up are so good why were they not in your original case?
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Example on suki:
In NMM: Case on VE. Next ~17 posts are questioning VE or saying why other cases are not good enough.
This game: Case on Koshi. One question to marv. No follow up. BAM! Case on Balla. Ask something about Balla (he already did answer - she's not even reading his top scumreads posts). Asks people about kush more than about Balla, who she is voting for. Then BAM! Vote on kush. No talking about kush at all and BAM! Case on Palmar. roflll.. Asks Palmar about her case, 3 minutes and BAM! Vote on Toadesstern.
wow, such townie.
Everything she does is a case -> move on to next target. She's not defending her cases, not trying to find out more about her targets, not discussing the cases with other people. Just case -> discuss someone else -> next case -> repeat.
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On February 22 2014 05:26 Balla24 wrote: In NMM:
Case on zarepath -> case on bum -> back to zarepath-> unvote -> case on someone else
Wow, such commitment. Yes and in that game it was easy to see why she changes her mind on those people and she was genuinely confused especially about zarepath and bumatlarge. This game there is no confusion which would read as "i don't know who to vote for". There is a huge difference. Which you obviously don't see because you just look at posts and not the motivation behind them.
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DUDE ZAREPATH FUCKING CLAIMED A ROLE WHEN SUKI STARTED DOUBTING HERSELF AND SWAPPING VOTES?!?!?!
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I don't read games i have not played in because i don't know what happened at the time in context and i don't wanna read the whole game because it does not help and it would take a day to get a decent grasp of all the important events in the game.
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