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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#322
I agree bum. When I read the thread yesterday VE stuck out to me as not trying to push anything forward. Let's chit chat and clog up policy all day.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 18:29 GMT
#327
Also, I think balla's scum and I don't know how to read kush at all. Maybe scum too.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 18:30 GMT
#328
Artanis is sliding by nicely for someone who gets reads for conversations when this thread is active at the moment.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 18:35 GMT
#338
I'm fine with voting now to get a showing.

##vote balla24

Says he's inquisitive, tries to appeal to me about our other games played and does nothing.

That's my vote for the moment.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 22:52 GMT
#451
##unvote
##vote kushmasta


I think kush is scum. I think balla is scum. I think kush put a bus vote on balla and got an easy out when I said something. No one else will vote balla. Lynch kush.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 23:10 GMT
#456
Because I think you're pushing way too hard on your scum slip claim.

I don't know what to think of you kush. Anyway until someone makes a better case than what we have at the moment I'm leaving my vote on you.

what's tdtbs btw?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 01:49 GMT
#502
rayn, you know i posted like once a cycle in that game. wos warned me for activity. Sandro called me scum early and never backed off.

Suki same thing. You want more from me? Who's posted more? Not you. That's a certainty.

I can't pin kush as scum but I dislike his play as town. I have both games I played with him. That's the only reason I don't try to push it harder.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:01 GMT
#733
Balla I still think you're scum.

You post essentially nothing this game. Then you pop back into the thread and pick a convenient lurker to lynch. You're not making an effort to solve this game.

How is sheeping rayn by saying he's here to move the game forward any type of acceptable play? In the last game you kept commenting oh how you play too nicely and trying to FIND SCUM while I randomly harassed people into talking.

you ask questions, but pose them doubtfully like you're not sure and don't care if they're answered. Your play this game is completely scummy. in 40 hours all you've managed to conclude is that rayn (nine pages of filter) is town and you can sheep him safely while crossfire (one page of filter) looks bad so you can post something without fear of him coming back at you with a defense.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:01 GMT
#734
Looking at zere now.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:06 GMT
#739
Zerepath seems genuine when he went after VE then even angry when people let VE get away with saying I can't help you if even consider me as scum.

On January 21 2014 06:32 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well lynch me then. I can't help a town unwilling to help themselves.


Yes, since it's completely unreasonable for you to have to defend yourself against scum suspicions, right? Any town that would do that DESERVES to lose!

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:30 GMT
#751
I agree with Rayn on this point. Zerepath literally took the time to make a case, didn't push it at all then calls bum scum for making the same case and actually trying to get it pushed into a lynch.

Bum's right, if your case isn't getting traction why waste people's time. If bum really think's VE's scum he can always wait and try to get him lynched later.

@balla It took me a minute to understand what the hell that post is saying. But yes it is contradicting his case completely. Backwards ass logic. He's scum for being defensive and he's scum for saying fuck it, lynch me if I'm scum.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:43 GMT
#758
Yeah kinda bad.

On January 21 2014 09:53 zarepath wrote:
@Barristan

1) I simply have not had much time so far this game. Sundays are always my busiest days of the week (and this goes back to all of my games) and I barely had a chance to read the thread then, and today I've been doing family stuff b/c holiday and poking back in. My activity level should rise appropriately the rest of the week, but still probably not to The Game levels as I have another kid now and my schedule's tightened.

I reject the notion that my "focus" on VE has been a simple parroting of other's comments, as that's not what I did at all. His switch to bum looked very suspicious and I did my own analysis of him, and that case was the result. My case was completely ignored and I HAVE tried to push it back into people's attention, so I think that's a mischaracterization.

2) You talk about me voting and pushing my scum reads as if this is a pattern I've established in this game, when I've had one main read that I've made a case on so far, and my analysis was more in-depth than essentially every argument leading up to a vote in this thread. I don't see how you consider my analysis of VE leading up to my vote on him as being worse than VE voting for bum, his only justification being... that it's okay that he's giving up on his earlier vote.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:44 GMT
#760
Like you do the exact same thing. By your rationale you should be voting for yourself man.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:56 GMT
#765
##unvote
[b]##vote zarepath[b]

Yeah, your last post sealed it for me. Your explanation for bum being scummy is that he took his vote off VE when no one would follow his lead. You took your vote off VE when you thought it was an easy thing to do. They're not obviously different at all.


On January 22 2014 01:22 zarepath wrote:
I could join a bum scum wagon for his rationale of ending his VE assault, notably because of this:

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 11:46 bumatlarge wrote:
VisceraEyes. Read below. If you do not answer sufficiently, I cannot, as a town-aligned player, ever take my vote off you.


Followed by this:

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 14:18 bumatlarge wrote:
##unvote

You win. I'm not going to pursue this charade if no one else finds it worth while.


If he did not ACTUALLY think he would never take his vote off without VE satisfactorily answering his questions (which is the case, as evidenced by him taking his vote off of him), what was the purpose of stating it in such a dramatic way? I'm thinking for appearance, which is actually backed up by the second quote, where he shares his rationale for dropping the vote, which is purely because of what everyone else thinks.

The ideal townie would pursue his read no matter what, but a non-ideal townie isn't necessarily scum. What shouts scummy to me is the transparent motivation of focusing on how everyone else perceives his arguments, and not on his arguments themselves.


He tried to back up his case for two days and it gained no traction. You abandoned yours after two fucking minutes when VE said lynch me if I'm scum. You literally have one post saying I made a case and that's it. After that it's like total 180 and you jump on the same person VE has his vote on.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:56 GMT
#766
##vote zarepath

formatting error.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:57 GMT
#768
lol rayn, nice timing.

We each pick a different part of that terrible paragraph to bold.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 18:59 GMT
#770
I dunno maybe he's frustrated he got no support after putting a lot of effort into a case. Something you did not do.

Hell if it were up to me I'd lynch balla today but that doesn't seem likely. I've played 3 games with him in the last 2-3 months and this is not how town balla should be playing. So, when something's not working find another scummer to lynch. And I think Rayn did exactly that when he found Zarepath.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 19:10 GMT
#773
Hey balla, it's nothing personal. You're the only person I've played enough games in to expect something meta.

I hope you can prove my suspicions wrong and it turns out you're townie-mctown.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 19:16 GMT
#774
I definitely don't get a good feeling about crossfire either.

Like, of every person in this game to tunnel and filter Kush is an odd pick. Then his case on kush comes back completely null? Uhh...don't you get some opinion one way or the other after diving multiple games?

I'm not positive rayn is town either but crossfire's case basically says rayn accused a bunch of people of being scummy and put pressure on them. That's pro-town and not pro-scum imo.

Remember this is only a little more than 24 hours into a game and he is already attacking and voting for this many people!? This screams just throwing out cases and hoping one sticks.


If one sticks to scum, yay. If none stick because people come back and up their game and try to hunt scum, yay.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 19:39 GMT
#787
@barristan because I went back and reread his filter again, and again, and again. Then I went back to where the they fit into the thread and looked at context.

Why do you hate it suki?

Here is my only doubt about the zarepath lynch.

He blatantly does everything which he calls scummy. If he's scum he's clearly not being very careful.

I still think he's scum.
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