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On January 06 2014 15:13 theDragoon wrote:
@Balla24
About the random accusation thing, a bunch of people started ##voting random people. It's my first time playing this so I'm assuming doing that in the thread that early in the game just seems really random to me when there isn't much information to go on. I assume that by ##voting that they are serious with those accusations, so excuse me if doing that randomly in the thread is something that's very common and isn't meant to be taken 100% serious.
Also, on Day_Walker he seems to have good intentions.Calling out TheChyz as the only possible scum on the list seems like a bandwagon hop to me but TheChyz has been suspicious so it's something I agree with. His read on me I find is a bit unnecessary and does not really prove that I am a townie. I'm sure everyone playing this game is not afraid to disagree and standing up for yourself is something everyone does. He might just be including me on the list because I've posted a bit but his reasoning behind me as a townie really has no foundation.
You're not saying anything with authority. You're hesitant and making excuses throughout that post. What are your opinions so far?
I don't care how other people feel about you or if it's your first game. That doesn't matter.
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I'll be on tomorrow at a more reasonable time.
At this point we have three players who've posted nothing. Fine, we have 30+ hours till day ends.
I hate this post and generally everything in Asuna's filter.
On January 06 2014 14:16 Asuna wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 08:38 Balla24 wrote:
Thread is dying fast... need backup ASAP.
I also am not too fond of Asuna's entry, but there's nothing really scummy about it. I just feel you have opportunities to enlighten me about yourself and your opinions but you are hiding behind one liners for some reason. I'm just concise with my answers. I was asked pretty direct and narrowish questions so I gave pretty direct and narrowish answers. Also keeping track of everything in forum mafia is surprisingly different, so hopefully I didn't miss anything I'm supposed to be replying to from the last couple of pages. Basically I've played a bit of mafia, am probably terrible at reading people, but TheChyz does seem a bit fishy for the reasons Day_Walker said. Might be too early to tell though.
Excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt in one line.
I'm down to lynch Asuna or OWB at this point.
Dragoon and Chyz read more as if they're trying but misguided.
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I'm playing League. Games take 30-60 mins.
Asuna - you said you want your answers to be concise and your filter contained exactly zero content. Now when I comment you get very defensive. Cmon is this the best you have for this game?
Dragoon - His post was bad. Very bad. I'm telling him why I think that it's not helpful and why. Kinda straightforward I'd say.
Chyz - Here it is. He's playing stupid bad. Worse than I'd expect from scum in a newbie game. There's a lot of time to make up my mind about him.
I'm not going to be lynched today so don't waste your time trying asuna. You're looking worse and worse to me. Bandwagon the easy lynch on chyz.
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Chyz has 5 real posts. I'm not laying my entire thought process out there unless it's needed to secure a lynch. Why telegraph your hunting for scum to adapt?
His quick daywalker vote is the only part that strikes me as being off.
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I didn't realize that daywalker's only post in the game was that list.
I actually don't disagree chyz' reasoning.
On January 06 2014 12:08 TheChyz wrote:
Ok I think my little posts before I had to go afk helped generate enough argument to start conversations going. I actually total love the idea of trying to catch bandwagoners early and since Balla posted something similar to the train of thought I usually have I thought someone would catch the link. If you did, congrats.
I don't really like Day_Walkers entrance since basically he just gives us a list and then says that he leaves. From my personal experience I tend to give lists a lot when I am mafia and post very little. There is no reason to provide a list unless you have to (getting lynched, etc) imo. He is also the only one that seems to kinda still ride the end of the "vote chyz" bandwagon and then labels everybody else as town. Seems like a very safe move. If you think I'm scum why not put your vote where your mouth is? Don't like him very much at the moment and would like to hear more from him apart from the "agreeing with ..." slogan that you seem to use so very much.
##Vote: Day_Walker
That's along my thinking. Chyz is a safe wagon vote. Jumping on lynch targets that others chose first when there's not a real case makes me uneasy. Daywalker needs to contribute or he joins my lynch OWB for doing nothing wagon.
Overall I want to see more content from everyone. If you're scum balla I'll at least get something to work with from your posting quantity. I can't say the same about 90% of the game. Ill still be around a while tonight and most of the afternoon tomorrow to keep this game moving.
On another note I was some explanation from bigdad
On January 06 2014 15:42 BigDad wrote:Hey everyone, Sorry to miss the bulk of the conversation so far, the Australian timezone kind of skews the timeframes a little for me. Okay I've read through the thread, and mistakenly thought chinstrap seemed scummy until i re-read that he is confirmed innocent child! As someone coming late to the thread it gives me an external perspective so bear with me on my reads so far. Im leaning towards Balla and TheChyz being townie. However I may be completely off on this one. Balla seems townie, he is stirring up the most conversation out of everyone. I'm more skeptical of TheChyz, his loose play followed by claiming it to be "some trolly remark" is either a 180 freak out after he got voted OR its a great play drawing out the scum bandwagon. Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 09:55 theDragoon wrote:
Guys, this is very difficult compared to mafia IRL. But if I'm to go with my experience playing with friends, the most vocal people at the start who try to take control of the game tend to be mafia. Random accusations seem suspicious as well, so based on what's been posted so far, my eye is on Balla24, sidesprang and TheChyz. The dragoon has an early point that seems to me to stifle conversation rather than nourish it then jumps on the aforementioned bandwagon. At this stage theDragoon has my suspicion.
If you're here then post. You call chyz scum and town in the same post. Then you call the IC scum. What a transparent method of gaining town cred. Why are you suspicious of dragoon? He's far down my list of scum at this point.
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sorry meant to highlight his second idea.
Okay I've read through the thread, and mistakenly thought chinstrap seemed scummy until i re-read that he is confirmed innocent child!
I hate this post and the exclamation point even more. Yeah we get it you didn't read the game. You need to clarify it with an explanation point or are you trying to use such an easy method of gaining town cred?
I didn't know he's town but I would have if I knew my scum team!
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fuck im so tired, that second line was supposed to be a quote from bigdad.
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Bd what do you think about Asuna and daywalker?
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We know there are lurkers here. Talk about who's posted.
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Hello, guys and gals. Just got home.
dragoon - what is that last post? I'm going to read his filter but I'd lynch him for martyring alone. Scum that gave up? I mean really it's day 1 with 24 hours to go in the game. Of course there's a way to "get out of this mess."
owb - doing something, yay.
Gonna look at filters only read the thread so far.
be back in a few mins.
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Yeah I'm down to lynch dragoon.
I'll make a quick summary case for people to pick apart and maybe it'll allow him to defend himself.
On January 06 2014 09:55 theDragoon wrote:
Guys, this is very difficult compared to mafia IRL. But if I'm to go with my experience playing with friends, the most vocal people at the start who try to take control of the game tend to be mafia. Random accusations seem suspicious as well, so based on what's been posted so far, my eye is on Balla24, sidesprang and TheChyz.
Picks agro players and calls them scum.
Then two posts later he calls Chyz town and then votes for him.
A risk that a regular townie with no powers should be willing to make.
odd.
Also, on Day_Walker he seems to have good intentions.Calling out TheChyz as the only possible scum on the list seems like a bandwagon hop to me but TheChyz has been suspicious so it's something I agree with.
I don't understand why he keeps contradicting himself in the same sentence. daywlker's bandwagoning but he likes it?
Then talks about my pressure on Asuna and dismisses it completely without reason. Defending one player can easily build cred, especially if the other player made an effort to redeem their posting.
The more I read it the more I dislike this post as well.
Addressed @DW
His read on me I find is a bit unnecessary and does not really prove that I am a townie. I'm sure everyone playing this game is not afraid to disagree and standing up for yourself is something everyone does. He might just be including me on the list because I've posted a bit but his reasoning behind me as a townie really has no foundation.
It feels so forced. The idea is that we have no reason to think he's town because he's thinking like a town player. I just don't buy it. Fuck, this could all be bad play is my biggest issue with lynching dragoon. His martyr play pisses me off enough to do it though.
##vote: the_dragoon
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btw I think bigdad's scum. That's my take on day_walker for the time being.
Picking the non-dragoon "scum buddy" makes it easier on you if dragoon flips town and yet doesn't hurt your cred at all if he's scum either.
Unless td makes an exceptional entrance back into the thread I'm not changing my vote today but I'll make the case during the night.
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Fine, since balla addressed it briefly I'll bite.
That post was bad. He's agreeing with me but I just want owb to show some interest in the game. Nothing he did up to that point really screamed scum other than he likes to lurk when playing scum. I assume DW didn't know this when he posted.
I don't like his play but dragoon needs to do something spectacular to change my mind.
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I'm saying I don't care about day walker for now.
Dragoon's martying and playing just as scummy.
Bigdad's focusing on the second player in an accused "scum buddy" team. No matter what dragoon flips he benefits from voting daywalker instead of dragoon. Makes him look good if dragoon is town and says nothing if he's scum.
I want focus here.
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Dragoon effectively stalemated this game until he comes back and says something in my opinion. It's a shit move and goes against his win condition.
+ Show Spoiler +Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM me or the co-hosts if you need to leave the game.
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That's what I'm thinking Balla but I don't want to even mess with bigdad until dragoon's handled.
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+ Show Spoiler +The more I read these posts the more I dislike them. He's basically stating that he knows Asuna's "excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt" are due to her inexperience, and he's not leaving any room to interpret them as scummy. How would a town Dragoon be so sure? I'm more and more confident that the 'knows more about Asuna' line really is a scum slip.
You summed up my bad feeling about those posts succinctly and better than I did by far.
I agree with your points and my only doubt is sometimes people implode under pressure when they're town. He came back into the thread rejuvenated. This could easily be scum qt telling him not to quit and helping him form a defense.
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Egh, was supposed to be quote not spoiler.
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really? Going from fuck it /self vote to I'm going to come and make a defense. It's a fairly drastic change.
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