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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 06 2013 22:09 GMT
#895
On November 07 2013 07:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
o.o

Well can't say I'm terribly sad.

Wat happened to ET tho?

Dunno, but he's me now. Standard replacement "I'm catching up, useless until tomorrow etc etc..."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 06 2013 22:16 GMT
#897
On November 07 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
R U scum?

I'm an acolyte. I am not of The Inquisition. I am not scum. My blood is green.

U haz moar questions?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 14:14 GMT
#1101
and thats my queue to delurk. Since thrawn posted his case on ET its gained very little traction, and no on has been willing to call me out for being afk for more than 24 hours. For the record I'm only up to page 25/45 (the game before I replaced ET) but I also read cephiro's great-wall-of-WoS-is-scum post, so thats my excuse.

Regarding Koshi's recent posts...does that almost confirm him as town since scum dont get witchcraft votes?



So far, I have townreads on enough of the playerbase that lynching into my unknowns (assuming my townreads are right) would win the game by sheer numbers. The top of my would-lynch list is sylencia. This is partly OMGUS for him voting ET=me and partly what he's done today that thrawn already pointed out
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 08 2013 14:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
I am still wanting to lynch Onegu but I want to talk about syl because I'd like him to be a possible lynch candidate as well.

Sylencia votes for ET on day 1. He is the only person with his vote still on ET at the end of the day

during d2 sylencia says this

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On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro

Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.


Go back and read the part I bolded. Read what sylencia says he's going to do about hopeless during D2.

He comes in voting for ceph saying that all the other candidates are likely to be lynched and therefore not worth talking about. I question him about this and his response is....

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 10:37 Sylencia wrote:
On November 08 2013 00:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 07 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you have anything to say about Onegu?


look at syl's reply

On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro

Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.

Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.

In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others.


-could lynch hopeless
-people aren;t going up for the probable targets during d2

the serious targets mentioned so far have been rayn onegu and et but they aren't "probable" and the only one he bothers mentioning is rayn?

sylencia why are you dismissing the onegu and hopeless lynches even though you yourself said you could lynch hopeless?


There have been what, 2 or 3 posts about Hopeless, the rest have been a massive 'rayn/onegu is scum' talk. How does that show that Hopeless is a probable target? It doesn't really, since no one is talking about him. In any case, my vote isn't weird at all considering there has been no defense from Ceph and we're already in the second half of day 2. I dunno why this town is so dead.


oh so now it's time to ignore everything being said about ET? When earlier he said hopeless is somebody he'd "be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him"

why why why does nobody see this as scummy? syl's main candidate from d1 is someone who syl says he's going to "keep in mind during the course of the day" but he later refuses to acknowledge hopeless as a serious candidate.



Others on my would-lynch list are umasi onegu and sn0-man, in no particular order, with no particular reasons than that I haven't found compelling reasons to call them town so far (Again, only up to page 25/45 at the time of this post)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 14:35 GMT
#1104
i just got to rayn tearing up ET's case on thrawn. If I didn't know I was town...*cringe*
Working on it WoS, how long would you say I have before you have to post what you've got?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 16:10 GMT
#1127
##Vote: Sn0_Man
The silver bullet insistence when there is no evidence to that statement, still trying to out blues, this unsubstantiated statement that he almost immediately retracts when called out:
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On November 06 2013 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Nobody's around or something this happened yesterday too then I get flamed because I'm afk or something.

I'm fairly open to an Onegu lynch. That guy martyrs as scum all the time. I haven't identified anybody else I really want to lynch. Rayns points against ET make sense and all but at the same time if ET is scum he's successfully changed a lot of things about his scum play in the last... week. Which is eminently possible I guess, I mean I give him that much credit.

OO's still scum but thrawn sez he's not so I'm not sure where to go with that one. Considering its majority lynch I don't think i'll waste anybodies time with him today.
Coming up with 3 townreads is pretty hard when they can't just be the obvious candidates


All point to him being scum to me.

The gumshoe vote is a complete waste of time, but for the sake of confirmation bias:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 06 2013 06:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
1 more or something
lol
this is awful

Absolutely no thought into whether gumshoe was town or scum, just wanted a lynch

On November 06 2013 07:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
wat a shocker team

ridiculous. Lets kill OO tomorrow.

'wat a shocker'....THEN WHY DID YOU FUCKERS LYNCH HIM?


There's also this interaction with me, the moment i replace:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 07 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
R U scum?

I half-jokingly but full-truthfully reply:
On November 07 2013 07:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
R U scum?

I'm an acolyte. I am not of The Inquisition. I am not scum. My blood is green.

U haz moar questions?

His response:
On November 07 2013 07:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Either u read the whole thread in 5 mins or ur checking up on the most recent page. Dunno if that means anything.

I fail to see what questions I could have for you that would be relevant.

Tell u wat. As you read the game, Pay attention to OO and tell us why u think he was the NK

For whatever reason, Sn0 feels the need to take the piss out of me for being a little cheeky in response to his rhetorical question. It feels wrong that he is insinuating that I'm "something" simply because I hit F5. Is that not a common thing for replacements to do?
Also, deferring any read of OO onto me, in addition to insisting OO was a silver bullet target.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 16:15 GMT
#1133
On November 09 2013 01:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm not insisting retards, I'm trying to figure out.

I retract nothing, onegu martyrs and plays the "no-defence" scum style all the time.

Quotes, filters and alignments for the games in question. You wanted to lynch the guy. Prove he martyr's ONLY as scum and NEVER as town.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 16:15 GMT
#1134
On November 09 2013 01:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh, you're back.
You finished your read then?
Anything else to say besides that thing on Sn0? There is a fair amount of content I feel you could comment on.

Yeah I'm kind of lost as to how to comment on everything. You wanted my OO read first I guess, so I'll get that started.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 16:27 GMT
#1145
On November 09 2013 01:20 Onegu wrote:
Hopeless what is your take on hzflank/koshi?

'confirmed' town for giving away his witchcraft votes. I'd do the same, but them I'd be scum trying to seek free towncred.



@WoS
OO seems to have done the most work on the Day1 votecount analysis. I think it happened too quickly to make anything meaningful out of it, but I could see that as a driving factor in the choice of NK, simply because he gave something for people to ponder over. Given that me and Koshi are 2 of his primary 3, my current theory is scum wanted to WIFOM us into mislynching the "apprehensive" gumshoe voters. I specifically say mislynch because I think koshi is town and obviously think (know) I am town. Sn0 can die in a fire though.

A lot of my other thoughts are town reads and I dont want to explain them unless people insist/are willing to lynch me if I dont. Silver bullet mechanics make that stuff even more detrimental to town.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 16:42 GMT
#1158
On November 09 2013 01:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 01:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 09 2013 01:20 Onegu wrote:
Hopeless what is your take on hzflank/koshi?

'confirmed' town for giving away his witchcraft votes. I'd do the same, but them I'd be scum trying to seek free towncred.



@WoS
OO seems to have done the most work on the Day1 votecount analysis. I think it happened too quickly to make anything meaningful out of it, but I could see that as a driving factor in the choice of NK, simply because he gave something for people to ponder over. Given that me and Koshi are 2 of his primary 3, my current theory is scum wanted to WIFOM us into mislynching the "apprehensive" gumshoe voters. I specifically say mislynch because I think koshi is town and obviously think (know) I am town. Sn0 can die in a fire though.

A lot of my other thoughts are town reads and I dont want to explain them unless people insist/are willing to lynch me if I dont. Silver bullet mechanics make that stuff even more detrimental to town.


Ugh. Not what I wanted but I'll take it.
I don't follow the 'confirmed town' shit though. You don't think it's likely or even possible that Koshi just picked some names out of a hat for towncred? Delving even deeper, why would hzflank pick those specific people to bluevote?

Its certainly possible that he invented a list, I did consider that.
On November 08 2013 20:51 Koshi wrote:
rayn, Cephiro, Snowman = hz votes for witchcraft D1.

Rayn kind of makes sense. Ceph makes sense as a connection to Syl:
On November 06 2013 06:45 hzflank wrote:
I already explained it. Sylencia posted a several paragraph's about Cephiro's take on WoS. The entire point of what Syl posted can only possibly of existed if Syl thought that Ceph was scum, because Syl thought that it was an intentional tunnel upon entry to the game (only scum do that). Therefore, in Syl's mind Ceph must of been scum. Syl never played as if he thought that Ceph was scum, therefore what Syl wrote about Ceph was fake.

Also, perhaps he just donates town-points for excessive effort (i.e. Ceph's great-wall post)

Sn0 is kind of out of left field. He never commented on Sn0 much after his case, other than to say he was trying to elicit a response and get some dialogue going. It's not unbelievable that he had Sn0 as a townread.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 16:51 GMT
#1162
I'm out for a while. I'll consolidate as needed and I'll be back before deadline. You have my would-list lynch:
Onegu, Umasi, Sn0_Man, Sylencia

Preference to Sn0 and Syl at the moment. Consolidate as needed means I will vote outside of my list for the sake of getting a lynch, but obviously I want to lynch into my list.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 21:41 GMT
#1303
okay. so...moving my vote just in case of shennanies.
##Unvote
##Vote: Onegu
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 21:55 GMT
#1305
Yes I'm caught up. Scumreads are syl and sn0, largely in part to work you've done that I agree with. Also, WoS's statement that onegu gets to be nominated for worst town play if he flips green has my support. His bluevotes are nonsense.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 08 2013 22:01 GMT
#1310
Well color me disgusted.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 09 2013 02:34 GMT
#1313
On November 09 2013 10:03 Sylencia wrote:
You guys are idiots

Oh hell the fuck no. This guys dead tomorrow
Sn0 can have another day.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 09 2013 21:31 GMT
#1345
You could...you know...explain the plan so we can go back to ignoring you as a pants-on-head kind of guy.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 09 2013 22:00 GMT
#1366
ET's Day 1 witchcraft votes:
WaveofShadow
Rayn
Vanesco
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 09 2013 22:05 GMT
#1371
sylencia, i want your read on me in detail.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 10 2013 04:31 GMT
#1398
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 10 2013 05:01 GMT
#1400
On November 10 2013 13:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.


What do you think sylencia's berating of town says about his alignment and why? Annnnnnd do you have anything else you want to talk about?

I dont remember where, or even who, though I think it was marv, but someone said that posts like syl's are almost always from scum. I also dont even remember why, I just saw that post and something clicked in my brain that said he's supposed to be scum for it.

Other stuff, i think you, ceph, rayn and koshi are town.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#1429
sorry thrawn I cant bring myself to give a shit right now...this setup should probably be invite-only from here on.
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