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On November 05 2013 06:28 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 06:04 ObviousOne wrote:
Umasi is now a person of interest. Meta-mechanics discussion/finger pointing is the core of his contribution. I have nothing to comment of, I still think vanesco is the best lynch. I won't discuss townreads at all, because nightkills, and I have no significant scumread other than vanesco, just people who are kinda scummy.
Well Vanesco has posted several things since your last post regarding him. How did they affect your read on him? Even if you still think that he is scum, there must be some more detail in there now.
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On November 05 2013 08:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey hzflank, what do you think about sn0's play so far? Disregard the specifics of who said what or who accused who of what, I want you to casually read his filter and describe to me his tone, attitude, etc.
When I read him earlier, his tone was very fun. His attitude was casual, dare I say he seemed to be enjoying the game. At times you might think he has a idgaf attitude, but then he makes a few posts and you reseal that he is in fact invested in the current game.
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On November 05 2013 08:51 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 08:49 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 08:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey hzflank, what do you think about sn0's play so far? Disregard the specifics of who said what or who accused who of what, I want you to casually read his filter and describe to me his tone, attitude, etc. When I read him earlier, his tone was very fun. His attitude was casual, dare I say he seemed to be enjoying the game. At times you might think he has a idgaf attitude, but then he makes a few posts and you reseal that he is in fact invested in the current game. This is almost exactly what I've been thinking. Don't all of these things hint of green and not red? How do you reconcile his general townie behavior with the things you think he's done that are scummy?
For the time being, I ignore how he posts and focus on what he posts. He hides behind how he posts, and when he posts more content he will be easier to read.
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Thrawn, can you go into detail on your ET read? What has he done to put you at ease?
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On November 05 2013 09:51 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:35 hzflank wrote:
Thrawn, can you go into detail on your ET read? What has he done to put you at ease? Like I said earlier, he gets town points for tone and null points for content. I don't think any of the specific things he's said are very alignment indicative but he is direct and what I perceive as open with his thoughts.
Sorry, somehow I missed that post where you explained it. Thanks.
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I think that what we have here is the elusive Sober Rayn.
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On November 05 2013 12:47 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 12:42 ObviousOne wrote:On November 05 2013 12:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 05 2013 12:32 ObviousOne wrote:On November 05 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and I'm going to make this crystal clear right now.
I will not be around for deadline tomorrow. I may be around during my lunch hour but after tonight assume this will be the end of my activity for D1.
If people pull some shenannies and attempt to lynch me in that time, just know what it is you're doing exactly. You best be voting for Sn0 if you bailin' The issue I have with Sn0 is him basically refusing to contribute today. Would scum flat-out refuse to contribute when pressured? I guess it's possible but ugh. I have mentioned I would be comfortable with any of those three getting lynched and if people absolutely won't switch to Onegu then maybe I will. OO on the note of contribution, what has Umasi done that Sn0 hasn't? What are your thoughts on him atm? Umasi is on the radar, repeat, he is ON THE RADAR. Super outspoken against discussing the coven powers and thinks Vanesco is the scummiest guy in the thread. And that's pretty much it. And that's pretty underwhelming. But it's not necessarily scummy to have an out-there scum read. Would rather like to know another two scum reads from him as well because I could put his filter through a sieve and only the word Vanesco would filter out. So I'll wait 'til we get that. am I misunderstanding what you just said? One of the things I dislike about Vanesco is his attempt to stop discussion about coven powers. am I misinterpreting what you just wrote or did you misinterpret what I said? second scum read=echelontee third scum read=Sn0 Still watching rayn.
One of the things that you dislike about Vanesco is his stance on power roles. That's all? What do you think about Vanesco's interactions with people?
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On November 05 2013 13:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
So many people wish-washing towards a Sn0 lynch, including myself.
Makes me feel really bad about it because SO many people have mentioned it I'm sure scum are among them.
I think I will NOT be voting Sn0 today.
Ya think?
You have said multiple times that you think that I may be scum and you need to look into it. It might be time to stop saying it and actually look into me. It should'nt take long, I have not even posted much. I'll even give you a clue, look at the question that Thrawn asked me in regards to my case on Sn0.
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On November 05 2013 12:58 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 12:50 ObviousOne wrote:On November 05 2013 12:47 Umasi wrote:On November 05 2013 12:42 ObviousOne wrote:On November 05 2013 12:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 05 2013 12:32 ObviousOne wrote:On November 05 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and I'm going to make this crystal clear right now.
I will not be around for deadline tomorrow. I may be around during my lunch hour but after tonight assume this will be the end of my activity for D1.
If people pull some shenannies and attempt to lynch me in that time, just know what it is you're doing exactly. You best be voting for Sn0 if you bailin' The issue I have with Sn0 is him basically refusing to contribute today. Would scum flat-out refuse to contribute when pressured? I guess it's possible but ugh. I have mentioned I would be comfortable with any of those three getting lynched and if people absolutely won't switch to Onegu then maybe I will. OO on the note of contribution, what has Umasi done that Sn0 hasn't? What are your thoughts on him atm? Umasi is on the radar, repeat, he is ON THE RADAR. Super outspoken against discussing the coven powers and thinks Vanesco is the scummiest guy in the thread. And that's pretty much it. And that's pretty underwhelming. But it's not necessarily scummy to have an out-there scum read. Would rather like to know another two scum reads from him as well because I could put his filter through a sieve and only the word Vanesco would filter out. So I'll wait 'til we get that. am I misunderstanding what you just said? One of the things I dislike about Vanesco is his attempt to stop discussion about coven powers. am I misinterpreting what you just wrote or did you misinterpret what I said? second scum read=echelontee third scum read=Sn0 Still watching rayn. Yeah I think I misunderstood your post a bit but really this response is what I was looking for. Just some justifications for each would be helpful. Also since sn0 is there what would it take to get a vote out of you for him? The inevitability that Vanesco will not be lynched would make me vote for echelon or sn0, they're basically on the same level.
You keep making posts of nothing and wont tell us any detail of how your read on your primary scum target has matured.
If you cannot vote for your primary target then you happen to choose two targets that don't have a lot of support in thread and you do not give any reasons as to why you think that they are scum.
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On November 05 2013 13:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright let's play a game.
It's called, 'What are people's reads on Syl?'
When I get 3-4 answers I will explain my own and why.
Bonus points to hzflank if he is one of them. Umasi too. Also Rayn.
The important line in Syl's post to Ceph is:
On November 05 2013 12:56 Sylencia wrote:
and his entrance to me looks like a forced tunnel into WoS.
Syl is looking for motivation behind the posts of the person he is reading. Ofcourse, if Syl thinks that this is Ceph's motivation then Syl must think that Ceph is scum, although he never says it directly.
Syl mimic's what others have said to Umasi. We cannot know whether Syl wrote that before he read other people's though. Limited town points, at best.
ET's filter does look horrendous, as Syl says. But there are no questions for ET in there and not much for ET to respond to.
So my conclusion: I don't like that in Syl's mind Ceph has scum motivation, yet instead of pressing Ceph on it while Ceph is here, Syl immediately moves on.
Probably scum, but these long nightly posts should make Syl so easy to read anyway.
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On November 05 2013 13:16 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's not the point Umasi. You are supposed to tell us why the interactions are scummy. they're not scummy, they're just not townie. nothing has really made my read on vanesco matured, he's just scummy from the first post and no one has supplanted him for #1. Not everyone's going to post ridiculous cases hzflank, and I'm not going to go restate why someone could be scum if it was just me reading a point that I agreed with :| I agree with WoS point about Sn0 and how people are wishy-washying towards him as the lynch.
We cannot work with you unless you tell us why you think someone is scum.
You mentioned ET and Sn0, why do you think that they are scum?
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On November 05 2013 14:27 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 14:18 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 13:16 Umasi wrote:On November 05 2013 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's not the point Umasi. You are supposed to tell us why the interactions are scummy. they're not scummy, they're just not townie. nothing has really made my read on vanesco matured, he's just scummy from the first post and no one has supplanted him for #1. Not everyone's going to post ridiculous cases hzflank, and I'm not going to go restate why someone could be scum if it was just me reading a point that I agreed with :| I agree with WoS point about Sn0 and how people are wishy-washying towards him as the lynch. We cannot work with you unless you tell us why you think someone is scum. You mentioned ET and Sn0, why do you think that they are scum? lack of overall effect on the thread, although (as wave mentioned) it feels like enough of us are defaulting towards that lynch it's dangerous. ('that lynch' being a lynch on sn0 or ET.)
Okay. Why do you think that the town was moving towards a Sn0 lynch? (I agree that it was, buy why?)
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You took Sn0 off the table too early, WOS 
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On November 05 2013 14:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
As far as me taking him off 'too early...' what does that mean hzflank?
Doesn't matter now. I was trying to fish in multiple ponds with a single rod, and I messed it up.
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Hey i'm around, it would just of been bad play for me to post for the last couple of hours. When people drop placeholder votes on me a few hours before deadline, it is wasted unless I give other people time to respond to it before I do.
WoS wants me to be scum, but does not actually think that I am scum. Not sure what to make of that yet.
Umasi might be a mood thing: scum post > town posts > streak of scum posts > town posts.
Haven't really got my head around the last 12 hours, it takes me a few reads. I'll see what I can come up with. There's a few people that I want to lynch but I am not going to name them all so close to deadline, so give me 15 mins and I will pick one.
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On November 06 2013 05:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok I gotta step out for about an hour, hzflank you know what you need to do
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
Meh, I lied about 15 minutes. I still don't know who I want to lynch. If I cared to I could defend the points made against me but meh, no point until I have some focus.
So Umasi's probably town. He played too tunnelled for my liking, but once he got over that his thought process (as I perceive it) became clearer.
I don't really want to lynch ET either. He became invested in the game and although I might not agree with some of his content, it's likely town. For example, completely messing up his meta analysis on thrawn is a town accident. I think it's rare for scum to do that intentionally as when it is countered there is no re-counter. Also, his carrying about the day one lynch feels genuine.
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I'd like to lynch Sylencia. My point regarding his take on Ceph is fairly solid. I think that is Syl is town then he must of chosen what he perceived to be an easier target rather than the person that he actually thought was scum, and that was a long time before the deadline.
As you can tell, I am afraid that I have not left myself much time to care ;(
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On November 06 2013 06:26 Umasi wrote:
idk, the last post by hzflank does not look scummy though, he asserts that he doesn't want to vote ET, and he backs off on me..
kinda like, a lack of self preservation
Oh don't worry, people's votes on me make no sense, therefore I am relying on them not sticking.
For example, WoS tends to think that people are town when they are reading the game in a similar fashion to him, right? Remember when I pushed you and WoS said "I was going to do that" or when I read Syl and WoS said they he read it the same way I did? WoS does not think I am scum, WoS wants me to be scum because I offended him and/or he saw my ego in full effect when he coached me. His vote can still change.
As for Thrawn and ET, well they are defaulting to me because they have no one better to vote for and they did not like my case on Sn0. The thing is, if you read me carefully you will noticed that my case on Sn0 was never meant to be pushed. In that portion of the game I actually thought that Umasi and ET were scum. The case on Sn0 was an attempt to engage him which failed. The case was also an attempt to make people view him in a more negative light so that I could see what people said about him when he appeared to be a somewhat easy lynch.
People don't really think that I am scum yet still want to lynch me D1. Reminds me of the White flag game that just ended 
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On November 06 2013 06:38 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 06:32 hzflank wrote:On November 06 2013 06:26 Umasi wrote:
idk, the last post by hzflank does not look scummy though, he asserts that he doesn't want to vote ET, and he backs off on me..
kinda like, a lack of self preservation Oh don't worry, people's votes on me make no sense, therefore I am relying on them not sticking. For example, WoS tends to think that people are town when they are reading the game in a similar fashion to him, right? Remember when I pushed you and WoS said "I was going to do that" or when I read Syl and WoS said they he read it the same way I did? WoS does not think I am scum, WoS wants me to be scum because I offended him and/or he saw my ego in full effect when he coached me. His vote can still change. As for Thrawn and ET, well they are defaulting to me because they have no one better to vote for and they did not like my case on Sn0. The thing is, if you read me carefully you will noticed that my case on Sn0 was never meant to be pushed. In that portion of the game I actually thought that Umasi and ET were scum. The case on Sn0 was an attempt to engage him which failed. The case was also an attempt to make people view him in a more negative light so that I could see what people said about him when he appeared to be a somewhat easy lynch. People don't really think that I am scum yet still want to lynch me D1. Reminds me of the White flag game that just ended But there isn't someone else that'll gain enough traction in time, that's my issue. It's not that I think you're scum, you just aren't town enough to warrant a no-lynch.
But on the other hand I guarantee you that there are some people who are present but lurking, since it is deadline time and majority lynch. So there are some people who are present but will just casually go through with my lynch. They'll probably move their votes soon, too.
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Then you have people like OO who apparently think that ET is scum but is voting Sn0 for an old reason that never had much behind it. Or you have someone like Onegu who is martyring. And somehow my lynch is better than theirs. Now, I have no done much this game but I have made a few good points. I fail to see how my lynch is the best lynch and if it is going through so easily then you would expect that scum are happy with it, or that it is somehow scum motivated.
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