There would need to be 1 unclaimed doctor, not 1-shot doctor. There is already an explanation for why there was one NK, you blocked the SK... is the unclaimed doctor so hard to believe? Doctor should never come out unless it is a game winning move.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 02:27 GMT

#433

Also, who did Bereft roleblock? There should be 3 total roleblocks on night 1 right?

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 02:29 GMT

#434

You haven't been under suspicion for a while now, and you claiming that you roleblocked heavenz makes perfect sense. I 100% believe you. It is an easy thing to claim though so maybe we should re-think that. The fact that you even bring that up though makes me believe you even more.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 03:32 GMT

#437

On September 30 2013 11:32 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'm not sold on anyone to be fair. I wanted heavenz...he responded. I went back to my original read. storm's safe enough for now. I still say we should have lynched heavenz or playerboy.

If you want my feeling on this game. I want to lynch someone who will give the town info by doing so. I wanted storm day1 and it was not going to happen. I thought Mluneth had a chance of being mafia; not high but a chance, and I played on it.

I thought owb had a very, very slight chance so I didnt wanna make the same mistake.

playerboy and heavenz; one is mafia. If we had lynched one of them yesterday it'd be easier to choose.

i think owb did give us some info, did it not? not that it's ever good to kill a towny, but now we know for sure that out of playerboy/heavenz there is at least 1 scum... maybe 2.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 03:32 GMT

#438

EBWOP: Well, not for sure but chances are VERY high.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 15:53 GMT

#456

Heavenz, go back to my day 1 filter and look at exactly what I was saying in regards to stormtemplar. It was on YOU and Jonnylaw to provide evidence of why he was scum because I just couldn't find any. When you were asked for more, only Jonnylaw was able to provide more but I still wasn't sold. MLuneth made logical sense to me at the time, and we've been through this like 4 times.

On day2 voting. I wasn't the deciding vote... not at all. I voted on Heavenz to try to get support from Jonnylaw and Zaragon but that didn't happen. Zaragon was the deciding vote. I was very clear on my voting stance on day 2. I said at the beginning of voting what my plan was, to vote on OWB to get him to defend himself and then reconsider. That's exactly what I did.. Maybe I should have switched earlier or something to get more people to think about it but I didn't so you live and you learn.

On stormtemplar being scum roleblocker. You're right, he definitely could be and I should not blindly believe him. That actually makes more sense. Bereft roleblocks Blurry and stormtemplar roleblocks you. Stormtemplar has just played less scum then you all game and he got my backing with my tunnel vision. I won't believe stormtemplar as town RB until there is more proof.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 15:55 GMT

#457

On September 30 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
I am going to believe stormtemplar tbh. There was no reason for him to claim RB after a RB already flipped. wtf the chances of this setup are low. like REALLY LOW. I can't believe this shit...

That's true too. Looking at the way he claimed it and how he talks openly about how we shouldn't trust him is really a town tell. Or a really good scum player.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 15:59 GMT

#458

On September 30 2013 09:18 stormtemplar wrote:
Ah, alright, didn't know if an unclaimed should come out. I will then: I'm a town roleblocker, I suspected heavenz and playerboy night one, and decided to block heavenz last minute over playerboy.

On September 30 2013 11:27 stormtemplar wrote:
Also, random question, I don't exactly follow why everyone is so sure I'm town after I claimed. I presume there's a reason but what is it?

This is what i'm talking about btw.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 16:14 GMT

#461

Just a random thought, Heavenz could be the scum RB and not SK which could explain why he was so angry when he got roleblocked. This makes some amount of sense and it allows for him to have a scum teammate in playerboy.

and I'm not going to drop the fact that he was angry because to me that signifies that he was a role and he was acting retardedly... just look at his beginning of day 2 action it was just silly.. if he was VT he would have just claimed to be RB'ed and that was it. what does it matter if you get RB'ed.

- his sudden switch on onlywonderboy (pretty sure he's town on day1 -> HES SCUM on day2 with no explanation)
- the possible slip that zaragon pointed out
- calling me the deciding vote when he was even more of a deciding vote than I was... you could have hammered playerboy but you didn't because you've been defending him(more indication that there is a scum pair here). I couldn't hammer anyone.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 16:21 GMT

#463

No, he roleblocked Heavenz. He already said that...

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 16:50 GMT

#467

Zaragon thinks I am town due to process of elimination. Last I heard is he thought I was in a possible mafia pair with playerboy or Jonnylaw but he decided that is the most unlikely case as the heavenz/playerboy is a much higher possibility based on the flow of the game. At least that's what I think he is thinking.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 16:52 GMT

#468

Ugh why would you bring that up man? This is a newbie game it might not have been clear what their kill was.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 17:05 GMT

#471

I don't know... it could be anybody except Zaragon and Stormtemplar i guess. Just because he was checked and it returned town doesn't mean he could be godfather though. The way he has been playing doesn't indicate scum to me though.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 17:53 GMT

#476

Look here heavenz, http://wiki.mafiascum.net/?title=C9++ there can't be a GF in your case. Not that it will change your mind, but for future games so that you can be aware of how the setups work.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 18:59 GMT

#484

heavanz bajablood got modkilled, he was VT...

and that setup is not possible. no.... futhermore your whole argument about me as scum is because i've been defending stormtemplar who you think is mafia roleblocker so I really don't see how you come up with jonny/me...

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 19:01 GMT

#485

it sounds like you are just trying to find any way for me to be scum just to discredit me because i'm pushing for you so hard.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 19:18 GMT

#487

Dude it's LYLO. If you're town you would defend yourself to the very end..

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 20:20 GMT

#500

Hey guys my name is b-A-l-l-a not bElla. Haha.. god that was bothering me forever lol. Back to work

I definitely agree, it's all about reading filters. That and the night actions will give us a huge understanding of everything that is going on. After all, this is only the 2nd night of actions.

Balla24

2322 Posts

September 30 2013 22:19 GMT

#509

Stortemplar give us your info!!