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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 02:46 GMT
#1122
Busy evening and I kinda feel like relaxing now. I'll be sure to catch up with the thread first thing in the morning.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 02:47 GMT
#1124
:o

Congrats on 10k VE!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 18:15 GMT
#1299
On September 01 2013 03:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Fuba just give the item to me. Most importantly I'm town, but what might appeal to you is that I won't do anything stupid with it. It will basically just be in the hands of town. That's if you HAVE to give it to anyone, because to me the act of just holding onto it achieves the same result and would appease me quite thoroughly.


I'm catching up right now, but I can't seem to find what you are referring to here?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 19:14 GMT
#1326
I'm not sure there is anyone that I'm suspicious of to have enough posts to warrant a huge case on so I'll just be listing my opinions on a selected group of individuals that I have noted that warranted a filter read.

Cephiro is mostly interested about third party players and item mechanics. I'd want to lynch him if it weren't for the fact that he randomly decided to claim blue. I'm not sure why he wouldn't be worried about taking a hit, but if he has a way to prove that his power can benefit town then I'm willing to wait until day two.

I'm pretty sure this is like the 5th game in a row I've played with Zentor where he hasn't actually posted. Something to note is that he could be a vote rigger or something and make it appear as if geript is lynchproof. I'm not really sure why he would claim in that case though.

There are certainly some things I don't like about Wave's filter, but not enough to be confident that he is scum yet. His contribution picked up after I mentioned that I'd be looking into him, but that doesn't necessarily rule out a town reaction as well. The biggest thing against him is the fact that he appears "frustrated" by the lurkers and the suspicion on Dandel, calling Dandel the most active player in the game. At the point of his post, Dandel honestly has a couple words of value.

randombum's filter is pretty terrible. His name has hardly been brought up so he is definitely playing under the radar at the moment. He goes after geript on a gut read and has posted little since. He said he will be available to contribute to the majority if need be, but he provides little direction to who he actually wants lynched or who he is suspicious of.

cakepie seems to need to be prompted for his contributions, which is a concern. His vote is currently for a policy lynch, but it would be unfair for me out of all people to criticize that. He explains that he is filter diving, but there is little evidence that anything came out of that. I don't really understand the point of a pressure vote on felkyr if he is going to point out that it is a pressure vote. It isn't clear that there is anyone in this game that cakepie actually thinks is mafia.

ObviousOne is one of those people that I'm suspicious of based on his town read on Dandel so early into the game. He seems to be around, but not very interested in the game. He decides to sheep Dandel with the geript vote without actually mentioning him at any point in his filter.

clarity and stutters seem to have the biggest black mesa connections based on my exchange with rayn for questioning why Black Mesa members should be considered a mafia faction. Stutters already claimed BM, so that leaves clarity as the other possibility. I haven't read his filter today however.

I'm not incredibly familiar with Risen's play, but the difference between GoT where he was town and this game is pretty apparent. In GoT he was making a significant number of cases, even if most of them were off in left field. You could tell he was town simply by the way he was sharing his opinions. His defense and suspicion against Cheesecake is essentially that he hasn't done anything this game, so that means nothing he has done can be portrayed as anti-town. His response to Onegu doesn't seem like a town reaction in my opinion. I think he would be a good lynch.

geript has been playing blatantly anti-town. If memory serves me correct, he was more verbose as mafia in The Game, but there is next to nothing in his filter that is redeeming. That fact that he likely has identified the fact that he is going to be lynched, but has done nothing to stop it probably points to mafia. If he were a town lynchproof player, he would have realized that a day one no lynch would be a disaster and likely only mess up day two as well.

Risen, randombum, ObviousOne, cakepie, and geript are the players that I'd prefer to lynch into today. I still haven't read VE's filters, which is always something to dread. I'll probably decide on my preferred target within the next hour if possible for the sake of consolidation. I'd like to hear opinions on any of the individuals I've mentioned, outside of geript.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 21:02 GMT
#1381
On September 01 2013 04:43 Alakaslam wrote:
See Kita what is this, if you have issues with cakepie how not me


My official Alakaslam policy this game:

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/54613/just_don_t_look/
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 21:02 GMT
#1382
##Vote geript

Majority lynch in a game this size is rather lame.

That being said, if geript truly is a vote rigger, than this would be my preferred lynch anyways. Either he has to waste it day one as scum or he has a chance to clear his name and the lynch is completely in town hands.

I'd suggest Risen as the target.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 21:04 GMT
#1385
Also, geript can't vote for himself. Keep that in mind with the majority. Ideally we have more on him than 16 to avoid vote stealers and scuh.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 21:07 GMT
#1387
Even if you think geript is town, he is a claimed vote rigger so either he is a liar (scum) or a town player that can avoid the no lynch.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 21:08 GMT
#1389
I don't suppose we could use the talisman to change the vote rig from once per game to zero times per game?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 31 2013 21:08 GMT
#1390
On September 01 2013 06:08 kitaman27 wrote:
I don't suppose we could use the talisman to change the vote rig from once per game to zero times per game?


Or perhaps the one time lynch proof to zero time lynch proof?

Not quite sure how items are passed.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 15:39 GMT
#1768
Ya I agree that geript should probably be shot for the sake of not ruining another lynch cycle. While I agree it would make for a strong mafia role, it also would make for a nonsensical town role. Play anti-town and get rewarded for it with a vig shot?

I know back in Personality 2 there was quite a discussion about the chezinu role and I believe he was third party in any variant that GreYMisT suggested. Unfortunately, I don't remember any variation of the role other than the one we chose.

I'm not sure how much sense it makes to try to figure out the identities in the qt based on their names. The point of choosing an anonymous name is to make it so it doesn't trace back to you. Edward Nigma was my role back in the Batman game and I believe I posted under the quicktopic as that name, though VE was the only one would played in that as well, so it's probably more likely a coincidence than a frame. However if we were to speculate....Kobe Bryant -> Brown -> Hiro. GG.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 17:51 GMT
#1792
On September 02 2013 02:44 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote:
cakepie seems to need to be prompted for his contributions, which is a concern. His vote is currently for a policy lynch, but it would be unfair for me out of all people to criticize that. He explains that he is filter diving, but there is little evidence that anything came out of that. I don't really understand the point of a pressure vote on felkyr if he is going to point out that it is a pressure vote. It isn't clear that there is anyone in this game that cakepie actually thinks is mafia.

ObviousOne is one of those people that I'm suspicious of based on his town read on Dandel so early into the game. He seems to be around, but not very interested in the game. He decides to sheep Dandel with the geript vote without actually mentioning him at any point in his filter.


I'm curious kita. How do you still feel about these two?


My read on OO was probably the weakest of the individuals I mentioned. He is still at scummy null.

I still think cakepie has a decent chance of flipping mafia. He hasn't posted anything of interest since last post so my opinion is unchanged.

Does anyone else have an opinion on cakepie, risen, and randombum? I feel as if there has been so much focus on the majority lynch that anyone else is getting ignored.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 17:54 GMT
#1796
On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet??????


Since you're around, do you have any opinion on the three players I mentioned?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 18:45 GMT
#1811
MrZentor, you seemed to suggest that you have some sort of lynch rigging ability. Do you suspect that geript has that mafia equivalent of your role? A theme that might be present this game is town/mafia role variants, perhaps similar to hassy/evil twin and one other that I think I noticed.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 20:44 GMT
#1859
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.


From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town.

I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed.

As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#1862
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 20:56 GMT
#1869
On September 02 2013 05:55 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?


Usually, the amount I post first day is directly proportional to the probability of me getting lynched.


QQ
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 21:10 GMT
#1872
On September 02 2013 05:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?


Kita is there a reason that you don't have thoughts on zentor? I've asked for it twice now.
I mean, it's nice that you noticed he didn't post much d1 but that's not a read.


I think you might have missed my comment.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 02 2013 15:43 GMT
#2057
On September 02 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hassy can you please explain what it was you did to VE?


^

On September 02 2013 10:06 Cephiro wrote:
Well, aside from two townies dying, some other things went pretty nicely tonight.


Does this mean that you're assuming that VE is not town?

Also, the debears plan should not be used in my opinion.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 02 2013 16:32 GMT
#2096
geript, knowing that you have the ability to start a double lynch, why is it that you didn't activate it day one? If you are town then wouldn't you be worried about night hits that would possibly cause the role to die with you?

Putting together a case one 1-2 people at the moment, not sure if I will post it when I'm done or sit on it for a bit.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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