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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:20 GMT
#3431
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.

Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:25 GMT
#3438
On August 03 2013 00:22 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.

Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense.


Didn't he claim cop when the votes were swinging over to me? He said he did it because he didn't want a no lynch and he wanted Malongo dead.

There was never gonna be your lynch. It was either FT or Malongo or noone and i am pretty sure i could have convinced people to vote for FT.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:34 GMT
#3447
Okay guys, read this very carefully.

Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.

This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:38 GMT
#3451
Also put yourself into XRZ´s position:

You are playing your first game on a certain forum. You don´t know anyone here. Yet, you are so fucking sure of yourself you go fakeclaim a cop 40 minutes before a deadline when there are wagons on 2 of your scumreads!!! Really, would you really really take that risk as town? Because i wouldn´t, EVEN I WOULDN´T!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:39 GMT
#3452
On August 03 2013 00:37 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay guys, read this very carefully.

Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.

This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation.


You realize that scum kills for reasons other than bluehunting...

So your theory is null.

Explain why mafia killed vayne, the dude noone listened to, over 2 cops.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#3456
On August 03 2013 00:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:37 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay guys, read this very carefully.

Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.

This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation.


You realize that scum kills for reasons other than bluehunting...

So your theory is null.

Explain why mafia killed vayne, the dude noone listened to, over 2 cops.


Explain why mafia killed vayne over ONE cop.

So mafia does not believe i am a cop when i claim a green check on a guy who is town. Makes sense?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#3461
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU KILL A DUDE WHO HAS NO GUARANTEE OF BEING BLUE OVER 2 CLAIMED BLUES?=??????

WHY THE FUCK NOONE IS THINKING WITH THEIR BRAIN!!"
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:46 GMT
#3464
On August 03 2013 00:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:37 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay guys, read this very carefully.

Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.

This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation.


You realize that scum kills for reasons other than bluehunting...

So your theory is null.

Explain why mafia killed vayne, the dude noone listened to, over 2 cops.


Explain why mafia killed vayne over ONE cop.

So mafia does not believe i am a cop when i claim a green check on a guy who is town. Makes sense?

Why would a cop check Vayne? Especially over Firmtofu, your #1 scumread.

Because vayne was unreadable. That´s why.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:46 GMT
#3465
On August 03 2013 00:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU KILL A DUDE WHO HAS NO GUARANTEE OF BEING BLUE OVER 2 CLAIMED BLUES?=??????

WHY THE FUCK NOONE IS THINKING WITH THEIR BRAIN!!"


I am asking you

THE
SAME
EXACT
THING

If xrz is scum, why does it make it more likely that they kill vayne over you?

Because it´s the only scenario where they can even assume vayne is BLUE!!!!!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:52 GMT
#3468
On August 03 2013 00:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU KILL A DUDE WHO HAS NO GUARANTEE OF BEING BLUE OVER 2 CLAIMED BLUES?=??????

WHY THE FUCK NOONE IS THINKING WITH THEIR BRAIN!!"


I am asking you

THE
SAME
EXACT
THING

If xrz is scum, why does it make it more likely that they kill vayne over you?

Because it´s the only scenario where they can even assume vayne is BLUE!!!!!!!


So you're saying it's impossible scum thought you were full of crap and vayne was cop?
He did a "fakeclaim" but he was RIGHT about malongo and then pushed hard for his lynch all day.

Yes, i am saying it is impossible. Because my claim makes no sense as a fakeclaim.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:54 GMT
#3471
Because i voted with my green check immediately. And because i claimed to get my green check vote with me because he was stubborn. You are not really this bad Clarity. Is your scumgame falling apart?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:55 GMT
#3472
We are killing XRZ today. He is mafia, far more likely than FT.

##Unvote:
##Vote: exarezee
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 15:56 GMT
#3473
There is no other reason for vayne dying than that XRZ is mafia. There just isn´t. Period.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 16:01 GMT
#3478
exarezee retracted from his cop claim to justify 2 things:
1) him not dying the next night
2) scum don´t need to claim roleblocked or roleblock anyone any more when i die.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 16:02 GMT
#3479
On August 03 2013 01:01 exarezee wrote:
Can you guys look at end of day 2 please and look where the votes were going? malongo would not have gotten lynched if i did nothing. At the time of claim, there were 3 votes on malongo (myself, vayne, captain jack) and 5 votes on captain jack (tofu,koshi,rayn,townie,clarity). Please don't tell me I bussed malongo to save tofu.

Maybe CJS is GF. IDGAF about that now but you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 16:04 GMT
#3482
Clarity assume you are scum. Would you seriously even think about killing vayne over 2 claimed cops as you can roleblock the other one and kill the other one to ensure no checks?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 16:06 GMT
#3484
On August 03 2013 01:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
exarezee retracted from his cop claim to justify 2 things:
1) him not dying the next night
2) scum don´t need to claim roleblocked or roleblock anyone any more when i die.


Again, if xrz is scum, why doesnt he just claim "roleblocked" and kill you.
I don't understand why vayne dying makes xrz being scum the only possibility.

Because it´s the only scenario where mafia can assume vayne is a power role. How many times i have to say that? There is no way mafia assumes there are 4 power roles. And because i look worse than XRZ, there is no real justification in killing me and roleblocking him. It has to go the other way around.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 16:06 GMT
#3485
On August 03 2013 01:05 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 01:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 03 2013 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
exarezee retracted from his cop claim to justify 2 things:
1) him not dying the next night
2) scum don´t need to claim roleblocked or roleblock anyone any more when i die.


Again, if xrz is scum, why doesnt he just claim "roleblocked" and kill you.
I don't understand why vayne dying makes xrz being scum the only possibility.


I agree.

However, if XRZ knew he was not cop then why did he not call me town? he said Rayn was town and I was possible scum. This makes so sense for either alignment.

It makes sense for scum because scum are not logical.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 16:08 GMT
#3488
On August 03 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 01:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 03 2013 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
exarezee retracted from his cop claim to justify 2 things:
1) him not dying the next night
2) scum don´t need to claim roleblocked or roleblock anyone any more when i die.


Again, if xrz is scum, why doesnt he just claim "roleblocked" and kill you.
I don't understand why vayne dying makes xrz being scum the only possibility.

Because it´s the only scenario where mafia can assume vayne is a power role. How many times i have to say that? There is no way mafia assumes there are 4 power roles. And because i look worse than XRZ, there is no real justification in killing me and roleblocking him. It has to go the other way around.

I also still believe there is no roleblocker btw. Just because i am 100% sure XRZ is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 16:09 GMT
#3489
On August 03 2013 01:07 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Clarity assume you are scum. Would you seriously even think about killing vayne over 2 claimed cops as you can roleblock the other one and kill the other one to ensure no checks?


so why would i not kill you and roleblock vayne (if i had roleblock) or just kill you instead (if i didn't have roleblock)?

BECAUSE YOU CAN´T JUSTIFY YOU LIVING AND ME DYING!!!
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