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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 27 2013 15:55 GMT
#1532
huh okay snb's gonna go think about the "know he's town bc he claimed scum" defense for a while.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 27 2013 16:38 GMT
#1544
On May 28 2013 01:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 28 2013 00:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Both of us claimed scum in code with the disclaimer that we were town. It's a long story but it was kinda obvious to me that we were bullshitting each other. So yeah I think we're townies.

So you think that scum cant do what you did, yes?
Why?


He believed me that I was scum and pressed for information. He wouldn't have done this if he were actual scum and I was actual scum because he would have the scum QT and know my powers. He was asking for this information so he was town. I was doing the same. Hence we are both town.


SnB is fairly confident that this doesn't work.

Say player A is scum, player B is not. Player A pretends to fakeclaim scum, player B fishes for information, but player A knows player B is town so he doesn't give it to him. Then when player B counterclaims scum, player A fishes for information - already knowing that claim is fake.

Say player B is scum, player A is not. Player A claims scum, player B knows this is a fake claim, and fishes for information, giving A a townread.

On May 28 2013 01:00 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 00:45 strongandbig wrote:
On May 28 2013 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
yup up for lynching zealos totally.

Sent is probably town for 7 page filter.

Prome wanna disagree?


lul

On May 28 2013 00:21 Promethelax wrote:
oh. Never fucking mind me. I didn't realize Zealos was posting in not gibberish in between the gibberish.

Disregard me. I suck cocks.

Zealos a decent lynch.


am i missing something


sent are you and zealos confirmed the same alignment (town or 3p) to each other?

Acro thinks SnB made a mistake here... GROVEL IN THE HOPE I DON'T MODKILL FOR THIS GRIEVOUS INFRACTION


already dealt with, you're behind the ball acro GET ON SnB'S LEVEL
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 27 2013 16:43 GMT
#1545
On May 28 2013 01:38 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 01:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On May 28 2013 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 28 2013 00:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Both of us claimed scum in code with the disclaimer that we were town. It's a long story but it was kinda obvious to me that we were bullshitting each other. So yeah I think we're townies.

So you think that scum cant do what you did, yes?
Why?


He believed me that I was scum and pressed for information. He wouldn't have done this if he were actual scum and I was actual scum because he would have the scum QT and know my powers. He was asking for this information so he was town. I was doing the same. Hence we are both town.


SnB is fairly confident that this doesn't work.

Say player A is scum, player B is not. Player A pretends to fakeclaim scum, player B fishes for information, but player A knows player B is town so he doesn't give it to him. Then when player B counterclaims scum, player A fishes for information - already knowing that claim is fake.

Say player B is scum, player A is not. Player A claims scum, player B knows this is a fake claim, and fishes for information, giving A a townread.


In fact this makes no sense at all. Townies would never fakeclaim scum to each other in the hopes of garnering a reaction, since they would know that scum would already know their alignment and thus how to react; and since the other party would know that if the scum claim is true, the first party would already know they're not scum.

It's like WIFOSnB except both players know already know that neither glass is poisoned.

The ONLY way this would be a reasonable thing for you to say is if you have some extra information, like "there are multiple scum teams" or "the scum team doesn't know who each other are" or "there is no scum team only a bunch of serial killers seriously that caller game was messed up"; or if you each actually claimed third party to each other, which is the truth, and you're lying now and saying you claimed scum.

SnB thinks this is a massive scumslip.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 27 2013 22:51 GMT
#1634
Prome you're looking rather less townie from over here than you were in cc where you were actively trying to not look townie, what gives
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 27 2013 22:56 GMT
#1647
On May 28 2013 07:53 Promethelax wrote:
I had useful reads in CC. The 50 pages of trolling made me hate this thread and has made it hard for me to get decent reads. I'm having trouble separating the west from the chaff.

Feel free to help me though.


Seems like zealos is calling your bluff, he's either dead or not but poking him further to share that "case" isn't gonna help

ATM snb thinks he's scum too tho
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 28 2013 14:36 GMT
#1891
SnBisperfection you said your role changed want to claim what it was previously? SnB will show you his if you show him yours ^^.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 28 2013 14:37 GMT
#1892
Also

##eat sweetroll
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 28 2013 14:46 GMT
#1894
Role name?

SnB was a ghost, was invisible at night (but vulnerable to light) and each night could scare someone which would have igrok pm them that they were scared. Also once per game SnB could vig someone instead of scaring them.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 28 2013 14:58 GMT
#1899
Your old role name? How would that help kill you, it's not part of your role anymore right?

Or did your role change but not the name? Cause that would be interesting to know, if that's the case then SnB would like to know that fact but for sure don't claim your role name.

SnB's role name changed as well as his role mechanics.

No SnB wants your old role name because he has a speculation that town roles are generally monsters/opponents from the oblivion expansion and he wants to see how you fit in to that paradigm.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 28 2013 19:51 GMT
#1941
On May 29 2013 04:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 04:07 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 29 2013 04:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 29 2013 03:57 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 29 2013 03:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 29 2013 03:06 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 29 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 29 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 29 2013 02:50 iamperfection wrote:
On May 29 2013 02:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I was questioning why is he trying to bus a hit to one of his town reads instead of one of his scum reads, not whether or not he actually is a busdriver.

Whats the point of your question then he is scum or he isnt. Do you think he is scum?


The point of the question is to figure it out. I want to know what his thought process is, but apparently he isn't interested in sharing.

no, there is 1 (one) reason to rolefish a guy as town, it's when you think he's scum fakeclaiming.

Since that is apparantly not the case, there is no town motivation behind it, and you are scum.


No, you question the role claim when the role claim does not make sense. If a player claims cop and claims to have checked the guy that everyone knows is town, you question why he made that check.

You claimed a busdriver who targeted BH and CC. As that is not a use of the role that makes sense as town, it makes perfect sense to question.

Now you're claiming a busdriver with forced targets, which is a possible explanation for the claim.

You said yourself that it's 1-time use so its not like I'm outing you as a busdriver.

Okay, tell me the mafia motivation.
Go.


The mafia motivation for not busing BH into me would be that you look bad after I flip. It's easier for you to tunnel me, without actually pushing me.

You bus the player that you were going to shoot with another town player, appearing to save a player, while still maintaining the mafia kp.

That was before the forced target claim though, so if that is the truth, then this wouldn't apply.

Yeah and it's totally "better" if I kill a random other townie?

Nonsense, if that was the case I'd have a far "easier" time justifying it on hypothetical town you, and nobody would cry after your dead body either.

Did you even think about it?
It doesn't look that way. So what would you get out of rolefishing me if you're not even thinking it through?


What would I lose asking about a roleclaim that doesn't make sense if you're 1-shot. Why so defensive?

@Sent. You were one of the main people that swung the lynch from yamato to vivax. Why did your scum read on yamato no longer apply at the end of d1?

@geript, Where were you at the d1 deadline. You also swapped to Vivax, but weren't around to follow it through. Was the vivax vote just better than the alternatives in your view?

No, the question is what you would gain as town.
And I don't see anything. Not even a motivation.


this is stupid

town should always question claims that don't make sense

kita might not think you're scum fakeclaiming but until you explain why you chose those two people specifically, and if it was forced how your role works, i'm calling you scum fakeclaiming busdriver or third party busdriver who didn't care whether his bus target was town or scum
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 30 2013 14:37 GMT
#2244
SnB doesn't think that "the more you share the better" is true.

You're thinking in terms of Forumite's "bastard mafia" games, where there is a screwy setup and the players are either kept in the dark or lied to about it, but the underlying setup is consistent and if it can be figured out then players can plan around it.

This is a real bastard game. There hasn't been one on tl in a while, it's best to think of it as more like a Caller game than anything else. The setup was not planned out - it was compiled on the fly with cohosts chosen from the players. Multiple players have had their roles changed arbitrarily. SnB has already been lied to about how his role worked, even after it was changed.

Shit is being made up as we speak to fuck with the players. It is highly unlikely that anyone will achieve a win condition before the game ends, ISnBO.

The real way to win: make sure that your winning is the most humorous outcome.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 30 2013 21:59 GMT
#2297
What is the deadline
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 01 2013 00:05 GMT
#2379
snb was appointed acro's lawyer?

The defense motions for a mistrial as privileged attorney-client conversations have been intercepted by the cia
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 01 2013 00:38 GMT
#2384
In that case the defense motions to subpoena exculpatory evidence. SnB requests that judge Kita order Artanis to undergo surgery for the removal of the sweet roll from his stomach, as this sweet roll will clearly demonstrate his client's innocence.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 01 2013 01:38 GMT
#2391
Client, quiet.

Judge Kita, SnB requests that you deputize him as honorary court doctor so he can retrieve the sweetroll from Artanis's stomach.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 01 2013 01:59 GMT
#2394
With this training how can SnB fail?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 01 2013 04:02 GMT
#2400
Kita, the defense expects to come back tomorrow morning and see that you have ##appointed SnB as the court surgeon. This is essential to a fair trial, they must have this evidence no matter what.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 02 2013 01:32 GMT
#2478
Kira why didnt you let me Operate on artanis? my win condition was to get the sweet roll
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
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