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StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
May 16 2013 03:05 GMT
#25
uhh.. /in?
This would be my first game! GL HF.. hopefully...
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
May 16 2013 03:39 GMT
#26
I have just couple of questions:
  • What is an alignment?
  • Can a Jailkeeper or Roleblocker target same person on two consequent nights?
  • Could you further explain the private chat ability for Masoner? ie. Is it for the whole night? What can you talk about?
  • Can Mad Hatter hold on to the bomb or must it always be on someone?
  • Does being kidnapped grant any immunity from abilities? ie. Does it give cop immunity?
  • If a person has cop immunity, what does it show on the other side? Say the Serial Killer chose cop immunity, what does a cop see if he/she decides to search the Serial Killer?
Thanks in advance and I apologize if any of these questions is already answered and I simply missed it.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
May 16 2013 21:46 GMT
#31
On May 16 2013 13:33 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 12:39 StiMaDDict wrote:
I have just couple of questions:
  • What is an alignment?
  • Can a Jailkeeper or Roleblocker target same person on two consequent nights?
  • Could you further explain the private chat ability for Masoner? ie. Is it for the whole night? What can you talk about?
  • Can Mad Hatter hold on to the bomb or must it always be on someone?
  • Does being kidnapped grant any immunity from abilities? ie. Does it give cop immunity?
  • If a person has cop immunity, what does it show on the other side? Say the Serial Killer chose cop immunity, what does a cop see if he/she decides to search the Serial Killer?
Thanks in advance and I apologize if any of these questions is already answered and I simply missed it.


  • Town or not-town (cops cannot distinguish between mafia and 3P)
  • Jailkeepers and roleblockers may target the same player twice in a row.
  • A masoner picks a target during the night. The next cycle (day + night) they may then PM each other (using a QT, TL pms or whatever other communication method they want). They can talk about whatever they want. Obviously with all the game rules still applying.
  • A mad hatter can hold onto his bomb if he so chooses.
  • If you are referring to the flavour text of jailkeeper: being in jail only protects you from KP, not from any other skills. Bombs can be planted, cops can check you and you can be targeted by a masoner.
  • An investigation-immune SK, same as a godfather, gets to choose during the first night what role he'll show up as to a rolecop. They will show as town to an alignment cop.



Added to setup notes.


Thank you! ^^
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
May 17 2013 00:41 GMT
#34
On May 16 2013 12:05 StiMaDDict wrote:
uhh.. /in?
This would be my first game! GL HF.. hopefully...


Sorry XD
I guess I wasn't clear enough.

/in
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
May 21 2013 01:26 GMT
#58
/out

Sorry, I thought this would start sooner. I will be busy in a week so I'll pull out.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
May 28 2013 07:39 GMT
#134
/in
I'm back. Done with whatever I was working on.

PS - It seems as though there aren't many people playing..
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
May 28 2013 22:19 GMT
#158
Even though I'm a South Korean, I live in US, so it will work out.. I hope..
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 03 2013 23:04 GMT
#243
On June 04 2013 00:41 Acrofales wrote:
Dessx has been forcibly removed due to being yet another smurf of threesr, who is permabanned from TL Mafia.

Need one more sign up! Lets go!


How did you figure it out?
Anyway, do we usually get 13 pages before the game even start?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 05 2013 04:49 GMT
#258
Longer the delay, more aroused excited I'm becoming!
Can't wait for this to start.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 05 2013 16:31 GMT
#272
Gl Hf guys
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 07 2013 19:11 GMT
#683
.... too m uch fucking reading to be honest.
English is my second language and shit, on top of that I had to go back and forth to the airport yesterday.

I skipped the middle section concerning Gotard, so no comment on that until later on.

As of right now, LoneMeow strikes me as a mafia.
##vote: LoneMeow

On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 14:59 Umasi wrote:
iVLosK, I think you are scum.


Why? Make a case if you have a good read.

I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative.

On June 06 2013 15:21 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 12:40 Firere345 wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:

I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.


Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction.


Firere345, has your opinion changed? Do you still lean scum on iVLosK!?


First thing that stuck out to me was that in both cases he is eager for someone other than himself to make a case against iVLosK! while holding back himself. He, not exactly encouraged, but led Umasi to go on with his rant on iV (which caused much dilema later on..) but on the very next line said that he disagrees(?) to what Umasi's not existing case.. Also despite the fact his comment on iV's behavior sounds somewhat reasonable, he doesn't make any case or assumption; only going as far as to say that iV's attitude is neither indication of town or scum.

His second quote asks Firere345 whether he changed his opinion which appears odd as well. Forget the fact that I have no fucking clue what Firere345 is saying or why he is commenting on Umasi, but why is LoneMeow asking Firere345 if he still thinks iVLosK! is scum. I went through Firere345 filter and he never proposed anything like that before. Given it should have been much more reasonable for LoneMeow to ask Umasi or Xzavier such question not Firere345 because they were voting on iVLosK!.

On June 06 2013 15:31 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 15:28 Umasi wrote:
I'll operate under the assumption that you're town, because everyone else thinks so, and it seems like more will get done this way.


Do you still think he's scum though? If so, I'd like to see a short case explaining why, perhaps you can convince me?


Once again, he keeps asking for case on iVLosK! that he neither support nor argue. He seems little too eager to hope on a bandwagon given the chance though.

On June 07 2013 16:25 LoneMeow wrote:
Good morning, and sorry for being a bit inactive yesterday, had a rather exciting day IRL.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 10:14 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 06 2013 14:59 Umasi wrote:
iVLosK, I think you are scum.


Why? Make a case if you have a good read.

I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative.


Tempted.

What is your read on iV?


Leaning slightly on town. Sure, he is somewhat abrasive but he was actively driving discussion. Definitely not a top lynch candidate for me right now.

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On June 06 2013 22:40 Yavanna wrote:
In other news, I'm trying to discern atm about LoneMeow. He had some input on the lurker lynch issue but since he's just asked a couple questions without any real opinions of his own. Thoughts?


I was thinking of pushing you a bit after this, because when you posted this you hadn't stated any real opinions of your own besides sucking up to Xzavier, however your later posts are better so I'm okay with it for now.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 15:14 fferyllt wrote:
There is a player who hasn't looked paranoid at all, though. And that in a newb sets off a few alarms.

I'd like to know if you think someone fits that description or if I'm making mountains from molehills.


This I don't like at all. Looks a lot like trying to fish for an opinion to sheep on when you don't state who you actually suspect, and that I find rather scummy.


I can go much more in detail. On fferyllt direct question, he once again slip passes. Nothing definite that will hurt him later. No concrete background to support his claim. Either he is as lazy as I am or he doesn't want to give anything away. I might add who is your top lynch candidate.

Gosh, LoneMeow's comment on Yavanna is just plain weird. Maybe it's just me but even though Yavanna hadn't made a scum read until then but he(or she?) gave couple of town reads on people involved around iVLosK! conflict. She cleared herself pretty well when asked why he(she) is being too nice. In contrary, LoneMeow hasn't made a real opinions of his own. And again he doesn't antagonize Yavanna.

Last on I'm not fully comprehending..

On June 07 2013 19:05 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 16:34 Xzavier wrote:
Lonemeow what do you think of gotard and my case against him?


Gotard's posts are extremely weird, jumping in and straight away pushing lynch on you who most seem to find the strongest town read at the moment. Even weirder that he's pushing his second best scum read instead of the best. On the other hand, this is such a suicidal move that it makes me wonder if scum would dare do something like that.

Your case on him seems pretty good, but I still worry that he might be just overeager townie since as said, the move seems too suicidal for scum to dare try. I'm fine with lyching him if he doesn't provide better input, though.

On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote:
Lonemeow what is your strongest scum read at this point? I would also ask yavanna the same thing.


It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so.

This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash.


Even though I have no idea what Gotard did but I can guess a little. It seems Xzavier, who is viewed by majority as town, pointed out something minor about Gotard and Gotard, who wasn't as active as Xzavier immediately engaged him with a vote and scum read possibly. (Correct me if I'm completely off the track) So what Lone Meow decides to do is basically say, "Oh this guy (Gotard) is doing something that is suicidal. He is likely a scum. But wait, this is too suicidal to be something a scum would do. He might be a townie after all."

Lastly, his scum read on Firere345 is just plain weak. It seems to me as when he was asked he had to make a reply so he picked one of the lurker. He can probably further make excuse on explain his claim after reading my post saying that Firere345 asked a stupid question about Jester and when he (LoneMeow) asked for his opinion on iVLosK! he never answered, etc.

That's it for now.
..shit, I have to go to the airport again.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 07 2013 19:11 GMT
#684
Jeez fuck.. I didn't know it was this long..
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 07 2013 23:39 GMT
#696
On June 08 2013 07:10 LoneMeow wrote:
Gotard's posts since the original incident make him look more scummy rather than less. And re-thinking what Firere345 actually wrote made me realize my read on him was very weak. So I think I'd rather lynch Gotard after all.

##Vote: Gotard


Bandwagon much? If you are going to (follow the general flow of votes) anyway, at least give your reasons. What exactly in Gotard's posts did you find scummy? What of Firere345 posts make you realize your read is weak? Yes, it was weak to start with:
but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so.

but what Firere345 posted so far does not contradict your theory. He posted 5 times so far and most of them are indeed parallel to the general consensus at the time.

In conclusion, I find it suspicious that you would just cast your vote on Gotard so very close to the deadline without a solid support of your own finding but rather follow the majority of the vote, a move I would identify as a bandwagon mafia would make trying to help out his buddy Firere345 and put innocent Gotard to death.

+ Show Spoiler +
My vote is not changing from LoneMeow until he is lynched or I die from mafia, but if Gotard flips town and Firere345 is scum, I'm fucking killing this cat!

동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 00:24 GMT
#701
I really don't want to see multi-modkill Day 1. Come on, tE_ and Yavanna. VOTE!!
I know it sounds stupid but how many mafia?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 00:56 GMT
#708
tE_ and Yavanna. VOTE!!
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 00:59 GMT
#709
Alas, two modkills..
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 01:14 GMT
#716
BOO YAH!!
Congratulation, ladies and gentlemen (and zombies and shits). We've finally got rid of pesky mafia.
We have only 2 more (and SK?) to kill in the name of justice!
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 01:33 GMT
#725
Just btw, it would hilarious if LoneMeow flips scum given that Umasi randomly voted him at the beginning of the game XD
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 02:09 GMT
#729
What is MYLO/LYLO?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 02:23 GMT
#732
On June 08 2013 11:21 fferyllt wrote:
MYLO = mislynch and lose. Basically a 3-1 or 4-2 town v scum scenario in this game. Town outnumber scum by 2. If town mislynch, then they are down to outnumbering scum by 1 at nightfall, and then parity will be reached with the night kill. This assumes no town night actions can prevent the scum kill.

LYLO = lynch or lose. This comes about when town outnumber scum by 1. so 2-1 or 3-2 probably in this game. If town doesn't lynch scum that day town automatically lose.

If we have an SK then the calculations get more complicated.


Thanks for clarification.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
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