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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 22:22:16
July 27 2014 22:17 GMT
#441
On July 28 2014 07:12 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 07:03 ketchup wrote:
On July 28 2014 06:58 Numy wrote:
Last two games been so snowbally. Wonder if it's just one team playing flawlessly or other team playing bad. At least Dyrus showed up at last after months of being nowhere. Just in time for playoffs too.

On July 28 2014 06:57 ketchup wrote:
On July 28 2014 06:55 Numy wrote:
Dexter and Double playing sooo bad. Why do you go for max range stun.


Dexter hasn't been impressive for the past few weeks, but doublelift is definitely looking terror this week. It's like he's reverted to the old doublelift with his positioning issues.


Honestly this is pretty typical for his tristana. Don't know why they pick him that champ when he's pretty much always terror on it.


I still believe Dexter's the bigger issue. He was non-existent in the game today. What's worse is that he still gave seraph no help even when he didn't have anything else to do on the map(considering how they were rotating, and only seraph was taking a static lane)

I dont think blaming an individual makes sense without further knowledge. We have heard about problems in the team for some time, now it is really showing in the results.
My speculation is that CLG is faltering due to their own expectations being too high. They believed in their own hype and cant handle having mediocre results and plays. If they can manage their expectations better they might come back. If they dont destroy themselves before that.


Bullshit. This is like every armchair analyst on ESPN who doesn't know shit about shit. Anybody who has competed at a high level at anything knows this is bull shit.

Now, when things falter mid-game and start taking turns for the worse that can really fuck with your mentality and skill. However, between weeks and whatnot it doesn't matter for a single thing. A lot of CLG's losses can basically be attributed to the basic mistake of not respecting other team's own plans enough. Not their big, overall plans. But the little ones. CLG has great responses to other team's moves, make good rotations, etc... but when there is a lull in the game that seems to be the time when CLG is most vulnerable. When teams are just farming or pushing lanes that has been CLG's bane in recent times. How many times the last few weeks have we seen relatively simple moves by teams force flashes or get kills out of them? A small jungle invade that isn't even looking to get a buff nets a flash or kill every game it seems.

And those little things add up quickly. Suddenly the back they were trying to do is late for dragon or to defend the turret, they can't contest a buff that was going to respawn, etc.

edit: wording/clarification
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 27 2014 22:18 GMT
#442
--- Nuked ---
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 27 2014 22:25 GMT
#443
Kobe back on fists again. I think it's a fetish now.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 22:30:17
July 27 2014 22:26 GMT
#444
On July 28 2014 07:17 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 07:12 Redox wrote:
On July 28 2014 07:03 ketchup wrote:
On July 28 2014 06:58 Numy wrote:
Last two games been so snowbally. Wonder if it's just one team playing flawlessly or other team playing bad. At least Dyrus showed up at last after months of being nowhere. Just in time for playoffs too.

On July 28 2014 06:57 ketchup wrote:
On July 28 2014 06:55 Numy wrote:
Dexter and Double playing sooo bad. Why do you go for max range stun.


Dexter hasn't been impressive for the past few weeks, but doublelift is definitely looking terror this week. It's like he's reverted to the old doublelift with his positioning issues.


Honestly this is pretty typical for his tristana. Don't know why they pick him that champ when he's pretty much always terror on it.


I still believe Dexter's the bigger issue. He was non-existent in the game today. What's worse is that he still gave seraph no help even when he didn't have anything else to do on the map(considering how they were rotating, and only seraph was taking a static lane)

I dont think blaming an individual makes sense without further knowledge. We have heard about problems in the team for some time, now it is really showing in the results.
My speculation is that CLG is faltering due to their own expectations being too high. They believed in their own hype and cant handle having mediocre results and plays. If they can manage their expectations better they might come back. If they dont destroy themselves before that.


Bullshit. This is like every armchair analyst on ESPN who doesn't know shit about shit. Anybody who has competed at a high level at anything knows this is bull shit.

Now, when things falter mid-game and start taking turns for the worse that can really fuck with your mentality and skill. However, between weeks and whatnot it doesn't matter for a single thing. A lot of CLG's losses can basically be attributed to the basic mistake of not respecting other team's own plans enough. Not their big, overall plans. But the little ones. CLG has great responses to other team's moves, make good rotations, etc... but when there is a lull in the game that seems to be the time when CLG is most vulnerable. When teams are just farming or pushing lanes that has been CLG's bane in recent times. How many times the last few weeks have we seen relatively simple moves by teams force flashes or get kills out of them? A small jungle invade that isn't even looking to get a buff nets a flash or kill every game it seems.

And those little things add up quickly. Suddenly the back they were trying to do is late for dragon or to defend the turret, they can't contest a buff that was going to respawn, etc.

edit: wording/clarification

In every team sport I know team mentality has always mattered and lead to huge winning or losing streaks. Games are connected to each other, they dont just exist in a vacuum (I am assuming that is what you are saying). This can among other things be seen in how betting odds change after a game.

And we have heard of problems within CLG (disagreements and general discontent with the games) for some time. I was very surprised then because I didnt think their results were bad. Which is why I think they were expecting too much.
Off-season = best season
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 22:28:17
July 27 2014 22:27 GMT
#445
WHY IS KASSADIN NOT BANNED COL WTF????

I guess on paper shiptur is a bad kassadin with his passive play and if they have some specific counter prepared.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 27 2014 22:29 GMT
#446
On July 28 2014 07:27 nafta wrote:
WHY IS KASSADIN NOT BANNED COL WTF????

I guess on paper shiptur is a bad kassadin with his passive play and if they have some specific counter prepared.

Crumbzz rango confirmed too strong
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 27 2014 22:30 GMT
#447
Uh, Kobe, Crumbzz has picked Vi and Noc multiple times already (and usually done pretty badly), why would his "fifth" be J4?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 22:32:25
July 27 2014 22:32 GMT
#448
I'm late to the party, but:

TSM TSM

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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 27 2014 22:34 GMT
#449
Nunu's consume on golem's counts towards the new SotAG, I did not know. That's nice.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 27 2014 22:35 GMT
#450
I guess even though riot added free wards for lvl1 that doesn't mean people use them lol...
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 22:39:16
July 27 2014 22:39 GMT
#451
Qtpie kinda dumb if he just used e they wouldve killed and he wouldnt have died :/
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 27 2014 22:42 GMT
#452
Is the col magic happening this game?
Fan of the Jangbanger
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 27 2014 22:43 GMT
#453
On July 28 2014 07:42 O-ops wrote:
Is the col magic happening this game?

Dig relegations, complexity playoffs the dream.
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 22:45:37
July 27 2014 22:45 GMT
#454
On July 28 2014 07:43 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 07:42 O-ops wrote:
Is the col magic happening this game?

Dig relegations, complexity playoffs the dream.

I'd be fine with it. At this point Dig can't place high so the more complexity wins the more likely they are to remain in LCS for next season.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
July 27 2014 22:47 GMT
#455
Wut,why Evelynn did not save the turret?
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 27 2014 22:47 GMT
#456
I hate losing to TSM, but I hate CLG even more.

Please retire double you have been crap for 18 months
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 27 2014 22:48 GMT
#457
Never go full Westrice lmao
Fan of the Jangbanger
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
July 27 2014 22:50 GMT
#458
I guess once the outer turrets are gone col needs to show some mid game intelligence.
Science>Mechanics
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
July 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#459
Good teleport cs-master Shiphtur, way to be useless!
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
July 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#460
feels like the s4 changes haven't made comebacks any more likely. It's just that snowballing your lead now takes longer for worse teams, and it's just as easy to get choked out.
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