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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 31 2014 05:04 drusalnik wrote:
100euro for a jacket.
I'm sorry your marketing director needs to be fired.
The brand might be good and it looks cool but the material that is made of does not look good enough to be 100euros.
I wanna know what is made of for it to be worth 100euros.
Soft shell doesn't exactly means anything to most people so please elaborate more.
Grovbolle put it very elaborately a few posts above yours. Please note that I don't know the details of the pricing on this item, but I would imagine that he isn't far off given what we know of the previous items sold in the TL store.
On July 31 2014 04:01 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 03:52 zdfgucker wrote:On July 31 2014 03:45 Grovbolle wrote:On July 31 2014 03:42 LemOn wrote:On July 31 2014 03:38 Zenbrez wrote:On July 31 2014 03:34 DDie wrote:
Esport jackets more expensive than the ones made by nike for soccer, that's unreasonable. Scale is a significant factor. One of the world's most recognized brands, excellent supply chain management, high contract leverage etc vs Team Liquid. Exactly, Liquid should be cheaper No, they really shouldn't. - Less people involved in production (TL probably buys the finished product from somewhere) - Shorter supply chain (TL won't send this jacket around the world during the production process) - Having a rough estimate on how much will sell from a few years of selling tshirts etc now, so knowing the rough order quantity from TL's supplier I tend to agree with Lemon more, sorry. Production in the thousands of a product from highly specialized factories keeping costs low versus buying a finished/semi finished product with customization. You guys have no fucking clue as to how these costs differ and anyone thinking 100€ is expensive for something like this should go look into producing their own 300 customized soft shells and report their findings. Add in the global distribution and the margin for TL and see how much cheaper you can do it. Anyways it seems likely they can sell them all anyways so if you guys thinks it's too expensive, simply don't buy it. For reference here in DK I visited the largest online mens retailer looking for softshell with no criteria other than it being a softshell - the cheapest was 399 DKK (53.2€), around half of the TL price, but that was a Jack & Jones jacket which is produced in quantities about 150 times larger than TL. Everything else was more expensive (at least the non discounted prices). With prices typically ranging from 799 DKK to 1400 DKK TL:DR : You guys are all cheapskates.
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100€? man these are even more expensive than the new 4-stars germany trickots!
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200$? lol , bye bye.
200$ its totally mad.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 31 2014 05:20 dadde wrote:
200$? lol , bye bye.
200$ its totally mad.
Oh, you were planning on buying two?
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On July 31 2014 05:20 dadde wrote:
200$? lol , bye bye.
200$ its totally mad.
It's half that price...
Anyways, I really want one. I am happy that you announced it ahead of time so that I could think about it without worrying about it selling out.
IMO, you guys shouldn't focus so much on explaining the production costs of these, but rather should just stick to the hype around it. These are great jackets for hardcore fans. They're really stylish and cool looking. You don't need to apologize about the price point. With only 300 available, I'm sure they'll sell out soon. You were so focused on that, you forgot to talk about sizing information.
I wear a size small in your hoodie. What size jacket should I buy?
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Since I talked with Bumblebee when the basic concepts were released I am almost certain they used a Danish supplier.
These are basic softshells which is what the TL ones are no doubt a modification of, using a Danish supplier which are competitive in pricing. 400 DKK for a basic softshell. Which is around 54€. Now consider the higher cost of customization and low production batch, as well as shipping and margins, honestly I expected the price around 120-130€
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But why it's made of softshell so?
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I think they were too greedy on this one.
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Really wanna get it, but sooooo expensive!
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I would buy, but totally would want measurements first, I bought a medium t-shirt and I more halfway between small and medium, fit on a jacket would be even more important.
edit: Do you think it'd be possible to ship it to me here in the US before August 20th? I'll be leaving before the month ends and the free shipping sounds nice haha
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Guys I will try to reply to the points you bring up later today but I just wanted to say something about buying our products to support us. Honestly if you just want to support us buying a shirt or a keycap or a poster is as good as buying the jacket and I'm thankful for any contribution you make to TL. But dont just buy this jacket to support us - buy it if you like it, if you find it awesome, if its a proruct you think you will have a lot of fun owning. Sure we will make money from selling these but more than anything I think that the jacket is a great product to just express your love for esports and the community, to show what you like while looking damn cool. We hope that we can find 300 people thinking like that and will buy the jacket cause its awesome and not just to support TL
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On July 31 2014 06:23 disciple wrote:
Guys I will try to reply to the points you bring up later today but I just wanted to say something about buying our products to support us. Honestly if you just want to support us buying a shirt or a keycap or a poster is as good as buying the jacket and I'm thankful for any contribution you make to TL. But dont just buy this jacket to support us - buy it if you like it, if you find it awesome, if its a proruct you think you will have a lot of fun owning. Sure we will make money from selling these but more than anything I think that the jacket is a great product to just express your love for esports and the community, to show what you like while looking damn cool. We hope that we can find 300 people thinking like that and will buy the jacket cause its awesome and not just to support TL
Damn right.
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Zurich15366 Posts
Really, you want to get laid? Buy 2. Just in case one's at the dry cleaner's. Best 200 investment ever. There.
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Fuck the sexiness of this jacket is blowing my mind. Why do you do this to my wallet!
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Wow looks nice,to bad i'm a cheap fuck :/
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I can't understand why so many people think it is expensive. Do you all buy complete shit from random stores instead of outdoor clothing? If the jacket is of any quality at all, it is actually cheap even without the TL customization. If anything, TL should be commended for how little it costs.
That said, I am probably not going to get one because my need for warm clothing is next to zero as I am extremely warm-blooded, but it looks really cool.
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Germany550 Posts
Wrote it on my list, gonna buy one when they get released!
Great work!
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mmhh looks sexy, considering it but think i gotta wait till people report how it fits. doesnt seem to be made for bigger shoulders n arms ;P
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Neeeeeeeeed but can't afford. Looks like I'm not the only one in this bucket
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