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Wondering about what time this goes on sale? Look here
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 20:14:12
July 30 2014 20:10 GMT
#121
On July 31 2014 05:04 drusalnik wrote:
100euro for a jacket.
I'm sorry your marketing director needs to be fired.

The brand might be good and it looks cool but the material that is made of does not look good enough to be 100euros.

I wanna know what is made of for it to be worth 100euros.
Soft shell doesn't exactly means anything to most people so please elaborate more.


Grovbolle put it very elaborately a few posts above yours. Please note that I don't know the details of the pricing on this item, but I would imagine that he isn't far off given what we know of the previous items sold in the TL store.

On July 31 2014 04:01 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 03:52 zdfgucker wrote:
On July 31 2014 03:45 Grovbolle wrote:
On July 31 2014 03:42 LemOn wrote:
On July 31 2014 03:38 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 31 2014 03:34 DDie wrote:
Esport jackets more expensive than the ones made by nike for soccer, that's unreasonable.

Scale is a significant factor. One of the world's most recognized brands, excellent supply chain management, high contract leverage etc vs Team Liquid.

Exactly, Liquid should be cheaper

No, they really shouldn't.


- Less people involved in production (TL probably buys the finished product from somewhere)
- Shorter supply chain (TL won't send this jacket around the world during the production process)
- Having a rough estimate on how much will sell from a few years of selling tshirts etc now, so knowing the rough order quantity from TL's supplier

I tend to agree with Lemon more, sorry.


Production in the thousands of a product from highly specialized factories keeping costs low versus buying a finished/semi finished product with customization.

You guys have no fucking clue as to how these costs differ and anyone thinking 100€ is expensive for something like this should go look into producing their own 300 customized soft shells and report their findings. Add in the global distribution and the margin for TL and see how much cheaper you can do it. Anyways it seems likely they can sell them all anyways so if you guys thinks it's too expensive, simply don't buy it.

For reference here in DK I visited the largest online mens retailer looking for softshell with no criteria other than it being a softshell - the cheapest was 399 DKK (53.2€), around half of the TL price, but that was a Jack & Jones jacket which is produced in quantities about 150 times larger than TL. Everything else was more expensive (at least the non discounted prices). With prices typically ranging from 799 DKK to 1400 DKK

TL:DR : You guys are all cheapskates.
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Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
July 30 2014 20:12 GMT
#122
100€? man these are even more expensive than the new 4-stars germany trickots!
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dadde
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy314 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 20:20:58
July 30 2014 20:20 GMT
#123
200$? lol , bye bye.
200$ its totally mad.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 30 2014 20:28 GMT
#124
On July 31 2014 05:20 dadde wrote:
200$? lol , bye bye.
200$ its totally mad.


Oh, you were planning on buying two?
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LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
July 30 2014 20:31 GMT
#125
On July 31 2014 05:20 dadde wrote:
200$? lol , bye bye.
200$ its totally mad.

It's half that price...

Anyways, I really want one. I am happy that you announced it ahead of time so that I could think about it without worrying about it selling out.
IMO, you guys shouldn't focus so much on explaining the production costs of these, but rather should just stick to the hype around it. These are great jackets for hardcore fans. They're really stylish and cool looking. You don't need to apologize about the price point. With only 300 available, I'm sure they'll sell out soon. You were so focused on that, you forgot to talk about sizing information.

I wear a size small in your hoodie. What size jacket should I buy?
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
July 30 2014 20:37 GMT
#126
Since I talked with Bumblebee when the basic concepts were released I am almost certain they used a Danish supplier.



These are basic softshells which is what the TL ones are no doubt a modification of, using a Danish supplier which are competitive in pricing. 400 DKK for a basic softshell. Which is around 54€. Now consider the higher cost of customization and low production batch, as well as shipping and margins, honestly I expected the price around 120-130€
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 30 2014 20:44 GMT
#127
But why it's made of softshell so?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Seporo
Profile Joined July 2012
France61 Posts
July 30 2014 20:44 GMT
#128
I think they were too greedy on this one.
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
July 30 2014 20:48 GMT
#129
Really wanna get it, but sooooo expensive!
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PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
July 30 2014 20:57 GMT
#130
Insant buy this friday!
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 21:06:10
July 30 2014 21:04 GMT
#131
I would buy, but totally would want measurements first, I bought a medium t-shirt and I more halfway between small and medium, fit on a jacket would be even more important.

edit: Do you think it'd be possible to ship it to me here in the US before August 20th? I'll be leaving before the month ends and the free shipping sounds nice haha
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
July 30 2014 21:23 GMT
#132
Guys I will try to reply to the points you bring up later today but I just wanted to say something about buying our products to support us. Honestly if you just want to support us buying a shirt or a keycap or a poster is as good as buying the jacket and I'm thankful for any contribution you make to TL. But dont just buy this jacket to support us - buy it if you like it, if you find it awesome, if its a proruct you think you will have a lot of fun owning. Sure we will make money from selling these but more than anything I think that the jacket is a great product to just express your love for esports and the community, to show what you like while looking damn cool. We hope that we can find 300 people thinking like that and will buy the jacket cause its awesome and not just to support TL
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MistraL958
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Switzerland100 Posts
July 30 2014 21:29 GMT
#133
On July 31 2014 06:23 disciple wrote:
Guys I will try to reply to the points you bring up later today but I just wanted to say something about buying our products to support us. Honestly if you just want to support us buying a shirt or a keycap or a poster is as good as buying the jacket and I'm thankful for any contribution you make to TL. But dont just buy this jacket to support us - buy it if you like it, if you find it awesome, if its a proruct you think you will have a lot of fun owning. Sure we will make money from selling these but more than anything I think that the jacket is a great product to just express your love for esports and the community, to show what you like while looking damn cool. We hope that we can find 300 people thinking like that and will buy the jacket cause its awesome and not just to support TL


Damn right.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
July 30 2014 21:33 GMT
#134
Really, you want to get laid? Buy 2. Just in case one's at the dry cleaner's. Best 200 investment ever. There.
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
July 30 2014 21:38 GMT
#135
Fuck the sexiness of this jacket is blowing my mind. Why do you do this to my wallet!
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
July 30 2014 21:44 GMT
#136
Wow looks nice,to bad i'm a cheap fuck :/
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 30 2014 21:49 GMT
#137
I can't understand why so many people think it is expensive. Do you all buy complete shit from random stores instead of outdoor clothing? If the jacket is of any quality at all, it is actually cheap even without the TL customization. If anything, TL should be commended for how little it costs.

That said, I am probably not going to get one because my need for warm clothing is next to zero as I am extremely warm-blooded, but it looks really cool.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
July 30 2014 21:54 GMT
#138
Wrote it on my list, gonna buy one when they get released!
Great work!
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 22:06:28
July 30 2014 22:02 GMT
#139
mmhh looks sexy, considering it but think i gotta wait till people report how it fits. doesnt seem to be made for bigger shoulders n arms ;P
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Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
July 30 2014 22:11 GMT
#140
Neeeeeeeeed but can't afford. Looks like I'm not the only one in this bucket
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