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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 03 2013 19:28 GMT
#5221
It was the laptop on the prosecution's table, but I was just making a joke of the content. I suppose someone with good software could make out what was on the screen, but I don't think it was terribly important or telling. It was just a joke, but the laptop screen was visible.
jeremycafe
Profile Joined March 2009
United States354 Posts
July 03 2013 19:30 GMT
#5222
On July 04 2013 04:28 Kaitlin wrote:
It was the laptop on the prosecution's table, but I was just making a joke of the content. I suppose someone with good software could make out what was on the screen, but I don't think it was terribly important or telling. It was just a joke, but the laptop screen was visible.



troll much? You didn't tell it as a joke, you told it as if you actually saw it.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 03 2013 19:31 GMT
#5223
On July 04 2013 04:30 jeremycafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 04:28 Kaitlin wrote:
It was the laptop on the prosecution's table, but I was just making a joke of the content. I suppose someone with good software could make out what was on the screen, but I don't think it was terribly important or telling. It was just a joke, but the laptop screen was visible.



troll much? You didn't tell it as a joke, you told it as if you actually saw it.



yeah, that was lame man. pls ban.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 19:41:44
July 03 2013 19:34 GMT
#5224
poor kaitlin. this boring DNA evidence is making everyone ornery.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 19:38:06
July 03 2013 19:35 GMT
#5225
I thought "If you can read this, your case is fucked" on the prosecution's computer screen was so obviously a joke that I didn't need to explain it...
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 03 2013 19:38 GMT
#5226
On July 04 2013 04:35 Kaitlin wrote:
I thought "If you can read this, you're case is fucked" on the prosecution's computer screen was so obviously a joke that I didn't need to explain it...

it is, but at the same time the technical ineptitude exhibited in this case (twitter, skype) doesn't rule out the possibility someone was able to 'hack' their computers and fuck around a bit. Long shot but it honestly wouldn't surprise me at this point.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 03 2013 19:42 GMT
#5227
Yeah, I was actually asleep while that Skype was going on, so I wasn't grounded in that type of context, but I guess I can see how others would think there was outside influences going on. My apologies.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 03 2013 19:53 GMT
#5228
On July 04 2013 04:42 Kaitlin wrote:
Yeah, I was actually asleep while that Skype was going on, so I wasn't grounded in that type of context, but I guess I can see how others would think there was outside influences going on. My apologies.

you missed out on a lot of fun. :D~
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 03 2013 20:07 GMT
#5229
It will be on Youtube, if it's not already
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
July 03 2013 20:33 GMT
#5230
On July 04 2013 05:07 Kaitlin wrote:
It will be on Youtube, if it's not already


Video is in this thread already! :D

page 259 or something
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 03 2013 20:36 GMT
#5231
Rain destroyed the DNA, that's where this is going.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 03 2013 20:37 GMT
#5232
oh, Sanford investigators done fucked up the investigation. need to air their dirty laundry, literally.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 03 2013 20:39 GMT
#5233
On July 04 2013 05:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
oh, Sanford investigators done fucked up the investigation. need to air their dirty laundry, literally.



yeah this is pretty bad, west already determined the fingernail findings are worthless and now going after the clothes. jesus, prosecution can't catch a break.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 20:40:53
July 03 2013 20:39 GMT
#5234
I'd say this very much negates the prosecution's ability to use any lack of DNA against Zimmerman, as it's their fault.

edit:

Wow, prosecution barely gained anything on direct, and they are getting thrashed on cross. Theories of throwing the case on purpose are gaining strength with this witness lol.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 03 2013 20:47 GMT
#5235
So, are we learning that DNA evidence can be destroyed simply by making sure the evidence remains moist ? Perhaps wrapped in plastic ?
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 20:53:35
July 03 2013 20:49 GMT
#5236
I tuned out after 1 hour of pointless talk with this witness. Could anyone summarize what was so significant? Did he indicate in some way that the evidence was improperly handled or something? It seems like it from this thread.

EDIT: Thank you crms.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 20:52:29
July 03 2013 20:51 GMT
#5237
On July 04 2013 05:49 rasnj wrote:
I tuned out after 1 hour of pointless talk with this witness. Could anyone summarize what was so significant? Did he indicate in some way that the evidence was improperly handled or something? It seems like it from this thread.



the witness stated the samples were 'wet' and packaged in a material that is less than ideal for DNA testing. The samples should have been 'DRY' (air dried before sent to lab) and packaged in a different material. Wet samples can cause inaccurate results or lead to DNA degradation.

also the witness wasn't sure how the fingernail scrapping were done, if they only did 1 finger nail on each hand or all 5 finger nails, basically making the data (or lack thereof) worthless.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 20:55:39
July 03 2013 20:54 GMT
#5238
On July 04 2013 05:49 rasnj wrote:
I tuned out after 1 hour of pointless talk with this witness. Could anyone summarize what was so significant? Did he indicate in some way that the evidence was improperly handled or something? It seems like it from this thread.


Moisture ruins the ability to extract DNA from samples. Bio evidence should be "air-dried", and packaged in brown bags, so it is able to breathe and dry out. The sweatshirts were placed in a plastic bag instead, thus preventing them from drying out, leading to DNA evidence being destroyed because the government fucked up.

edit: They can't very well argue a lack of DNA evidence found and use it against Zimmerman.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 03 2013 20:56 GMT
#5239
All I got out of this was that DNA evidence really isn't reliable enough to contribute meaningfully to this case. Am I missing anything?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 03 2013 20:59 GMT
#5240
they arent going to finish today. so much for that. when are the parents coming on!
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