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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 03 2016 09:06 GMT
#981
On June 03 2016 17:59 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 17:57 Dracolich70 wrote:
On June 03 2016 17:56 Swede wrote:
Wtf Charlie... 90m game draft loss? It was so fucking close. Clearly not a draft loss.
He said it was hard due to the drafts, and that is correct.


No, he used the words draft loss. For game 1 sure, but for game 2? The game had gone past any point where you could call it a draft loss.

Edit: as Waga and Cap pointed out at the time, DC didn't really even try to gank the tinker for the longest time. Their draft was perfectly well equipped to win. Maybe a little harder, but not so much to call it anything close to a draft loss. Draft loss means one team could essentially never beat the other without insane fuck ups. That just wasn't the case at all.
Na'vi had 3 heroes that hold strong objective presence, while they had two supports that not only supply survivability but also teamfight. It was a complete outdraft in my book.
LiangHao
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 09:07 GMT
#982
Is Nahaz using a webcam mic?
LiquidDota Staff
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
June 03 2016 09:07 GMT
#983
On June 03 2016 18:04 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 17:59 Swede wrote:
On June 03 2016 17:57 Dracolich70 wrote:
On June 03 2016 17:56 Swede wrote:
Wtf Charlie... 90m game draft loss? It was so fucking close. Clearly not a draft loss.
He said it was hard due to the drafts, and that is correct.


No, he used the words draft loss. For game 1 sure, but for game 2? The game had gone past any point where you could call it a draft loss.

If you can't deal with a fat tinker and don't have the tools to end before he becomes fat, it's a draft loss, even if the death animation takes one hour. It's not the same thing as a build order loss.


They did have the tools. Winters curse, chrono, arrow, invoker spells, and that's excluding all their items. Maybe not the best tinker killing line up at first glance, but at 90m literally every hero can have a scythe. It's just not reasonable to call it a draft loss. Items matter too.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 03 2016 09:08 GMT
#984
On June 03 2016 18:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:
I wonder how team secret's internal environment feels like after that first series


This is the money time series for them , if the pull it off they can still salvage this tourney , doing a lower bracket run in thier siutation is hell
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2016 09:08 GMT
#985
Wonder if Universe has started to think what have i done
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 09:09 GMT
#986
Artour tinker incoming?
LiquidDota Staff
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2016 09:10 GMT
#987
On June 03 2016 18:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Artour tinker incoming?

Lol that i would love to see!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 03 2016 09:10 GMT
#988
On June 03 2016 18:07 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Is Nahaz using a webcam mic?

trying to find another reason to fire him?
hehehe
© Current year.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 03 2016 09:13 GMT
#989
On June 03 2016 18:08 Pandemona wrote:
Wonder if Universe has started to think what have i done


The entire team are stressed out for sure, they barely smile , he use to be a twitter beast sending jokes and what not , now he never posts anything , at least that what it looks like from the side.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 09:14 GMT
#990
That one guy on wings looks like he's 40, wtf
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
June 03 2016 09:15 GMT
#991
Wings got BH, Secret lost
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2016 09:15 GMT
#992
On June 03 2016 18:13 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 18:08 Pandemona wrote:
Wonder if Universe has started to think what have i done


The entire team are stressed out for sure, they barely smile , he use to be a twitter beast sending jokes and what not , now he never posts anything , at least that what it looks like from the side.

Yeah, shame. Oh well guess we have to wait to see how much he enjoys it after Ti6 when teams will release players / leave.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 09:17 GMT
#993
On June 03 2016 18:15 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 18:13 bluzi wrote:
On June 03 2016 18:08 Pandemona wrote:
Wonder if Universe has started to think what have i done


The entire team are stressed out for sure, they barely smile , he use to be a twitter beast sending jokes and what not , now he never posts anything , at least that what it looks like from the side.

Yeah, shame. Oh well guess we have to wait to see how much he enjoys it after Ti6 when teams will release players / leave.


Universe and Arteezy leave secret, pick up zai, go open bracket into TI
LiquidDota Staff
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
June 03 2016 09:19 GMT
#994
I dont think this looks good for secret... The last pick is gonna do alott of lategame lifting.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 03 2016 09:19 GMT
#995
What a weird draft from Wings !
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 03 2016 09:19 GMT
#996
THAT NO BAN BM!!! i wonder if they just didnt click :D Wings have the late game , now we need to see if Secret can snowball this game or not.
juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
June 03 2016 09:21 GMT
#997
seems like players with more than one ice in their name are prone to skipping bans.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 03 2016 09:21 GMT
#998
On June 03 2016 18:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 18:15 Pandemona wrote:
On June 03 2016 18:13 bluzi wrote:
On June 03 2016 18:08 Pandemona wrote:
Wonder if Universe has started to think what have i done


The entire team are stressed out for sure, they barely smile , he use to be a twitter beast sending jokes and what not , now he never posts anything , at least that what it looks like from the side.

Yeah, shame. Oh well guess we have to wait to see how much he enjoys it after Ti6 when teams will release players / leave.


Universe and Arteezy leave secret, pick up zai, go open bracket into TI
If this continues Secret doesn't deserve an invite, if this should have any meaning and consistency. Furthermore it seems clear that Zai will play in EG.
LiangHao
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
June 03 2016 09:22 GMT
#999
Some part of me hopes secret will randomly just click and steamroll games like their roster should be able to.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 03 2016 09:24 GMT
#1000
why did i take lion over phoenix as most picked
ffxiv enjoyer
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