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On May 28 2014 20:34 Laurens wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 20:25 Erasme wrote:
bloodseeker is bordeline broken
you might want to play more dota before writing stuff like that Why? Because his bkb no longers dispells his +atk from bloodrage? He's still countered by a tp scroll in most parts of the game.
Most heroes are countered by a TP scroll in most parts of the game... Basically every hero that needs his (or someone else) stun to engage on you or that can't flat out kill you in 3 seconds...
With BS its just more obvious...
I mean seriously... There aren't that many heroes with 2 stuns (one to engage, one to cancel TP) in this game...
Natures Prophet/AA/Zeus/BS + Who cares = Funniest shit to pick in CM :p.
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two on front page, one to counter slark, solely counterpick
how about no
he kills any heroes that rely on spells to survive in fights, with a decent blademail timing you're unkillable in early fights
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On May 28 2014 20:50 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 20:34 Laurens wrote:On May 28 2014 20:25 Erasme wrote:
bloodseeker is bordeline broken
you might want to play more dota before writing stuff like that Why? Because his bkb no longers dispells his +atk from bloodrage? He's still countered by a tp scroll in most parts of the game. Most heroes are countered by a TP scroll in most parts of the game... Basically every hero that needs his (or someone else) stun to engage on you or that can't flat out kill you in 3 seconds... With BS its just more obvious... I mean seriously... There aren't that many heroes with 2 stuns (one to engage, one to cancel TP) in this game...
You only need one stun to engage. After that wears off, you should have enough damage to kill before TP finishes. Most heroes also don't have Bloodseeker's dumb cast time and near-total lack of burst.
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On May 28 2014 20:50 Erasme wrote:
two on front page, one to counter slark, solely counterpick
how about no
I don't even understand what you mean.
Look. Mirana is borderline broken. That's what borderline broken looks like. Bloodseeker has nowhere near Mirana's usage. Bloodseeker is not borderline broken.
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i mean that what you said doesnt make any sense
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Standard Erasme debating 
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On May 28 2014 20:52 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 20:50 Erasme wrote:
two on front page, one to counter slark, solely counterpick
how about no I don't even understand what you mean. Look. Mirana is borderline broken. That's what borderline broken looks like. Bloodseeker has nowhere near Mirana's usage. Bloodseeker is not borderline broken.
Just because something is used a lot does not make it broken...
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On May 28 2014 20:56 Laurens wrote:Standard Erasme debating
why would i bother debate with someone who has no experience in playing the hero at high level and whos only argument is that tp is good against heroes without a stun
What people overlook is that even if they tp away, you still control the tempo of the game and force them to stay together. And now the hero is actually good in teamfights if you silence a crucial hero like enigma or invoker before they can use their spells, you will most likely win the fight
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My main argument would be that he was only picked up 4 times in all TI4 qualifiers combined.
Clearly Erasme knows something that the pro teams don't.
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On May 28 2014 21:14 Laurens wrote:
My main argument would be that he was only picked up 4 times in all TI4 qualifiers combined.
Clearly Erasme knows something that the pro teams don't.
From the black interview -
+ Show Spoiler +
Which as yet underpicked hero(es) will we see during TI4?
I think a hero that's really underpicked for what's it worth is Io. Let's say you have a Lifestealer, Io, Furion and any other two heroes. no matter who gets ganked, you can instantly be 5 people at the place you want to be. Every hero has to be scared constantly if you have a good setup stun. Other than that I think Bloodseeker as well as Kunkka will see a lot of play. Bloodseeker, with the right lineup I think he can be very very strong and it shouldn't be hard to build a lineup around him
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I'm at Nubby tier and I just like stealing rupture against bs because no one seems to notice it when he has it on him.
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To steer it away from Bloodseeker a second (I agree with Erasme, and ahve said for a while that he's viable, but I was also thining as a #4 spot beforehand)
datDota released a blog about what they think the compendium prediction results will be. Annoying how many I missed by 1
http://www.datdota.com/blog/?p=648
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On May 28 2014 21:14 Laurens wrote:
My main argument would be that he was only picked up 4 times in all TI4 qualifiers combined.
Clearly Erasme knows something that the pro teams don't.
the thing is that he's scary as balls with an AA. If you give away that combo you're in for a bad time.
I think he lacks a lot to ever warrant a pickup on his own virtues though. You pick plebseeker for synergy or for the counter.
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The only major problem about mirana is she fits in every lineup in every role; she's not banned for a reason, IMO.
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Goddamn C9 losing while I sleeps QQ
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i like this vlads first pl build
let's me get into the jungle real early and avoid bitches that b trying to stick me fo ma riches
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BS is one of the very few heroes that can deal 200+ damage <20mins without any big item thanks to that crazy bloodrage. Been saying that he is borderline broken since ages ago (lazy to dig out the date when i wrote that in my BS steam guide). Still a very tempo dependent hero, with or without taking early levels of bloodrage. Basher is his top3 best snowballing item (nobody can run from you now) and with lvl3/4 bloodrage you can 1v3 in advantaged game.
Otherwise, normal BS like go for 1-4-4 skill build etc with items like forcestaff, i would like to see how someone can consistently win with that in high level pub lol.
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On May 28 2014 23:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Goddamn C9 losing while I sleeps QQ
I'm used to C9 losing by now, it doesn't even faze me anymore.
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I understand that bloodseeker is really strong, but how do we skill him these days? I'm too lazy to use my brain when playing that hero.
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On May 28 2014 23:36 Comeh wrote:
I understand that bloodseeker is really strong, but how do we skill him these days? I'm too lazy to use my brain when playing that hero.
Not entirely sure, but I feel like you need to prioritize his silence/spell that allows him to see people. You probably don't really need to max out his life recovery spell, especially if you are playing him in the safelane or as a support.
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