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teddyoojo

Germany22369 Posts

May 22 2014 21:50 GMT

#109061

u cant really farm jungle that well with ur illus anymore after the nerf

also does anyone else find the pls disable adblock things here so ridiculously awful

Sn0_Man

Tebellong44238 Posts

May 22 2014 21:51 GMT

#109062

I mean with all the compendiums floating around u can get virtually a level per game ez. Gotta farm them drops lpq sux.

On May 23 2014 06:50 teddyoojo wrote:
also does anyone else find the pls disable adblock things here so ridiculously awful

TL+ >_>

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

May 22 2014 22:14 GMT

#109063

im not spending my hard earned money on anything but kawaii skins let alone a premium version of a website thats good enough as it is free

hunts

United States2113 Posts

May 22 2014 22:22 GMT

#109064

So I just watched a game from the chinese TI qualifiers where a PL went early vlads. I don't think I've ever seen anyone get vlads on PL before, and I don't think the illusions even have the aura? I'm curious as to why vlads would be used on PL, especially as a first item.

Shaella

United States14828 Posts

May 22 2014 22:27 GMT

#109065

because the illusions do have the aura

idk i think vlads first is garbage. I think vlads at all on pl is garbage.

icystorage

Jollibee19350 Posts

May 22 2014 22:32 GMT

#109066

xboct goes vlads on pl.
just comemnting on hunts

govie

9334 Posts

May 22 2014 22:43 GMT

#109067

EE thought vlads on pl is garbage a couple of months ago. He did mention he wants/need/musthave HP regen t be able to farm with any carry. On PL i saw him go for TQ boots that day, although thats questionable too, 500g for some slow regen and early armour..

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

May 22 2014 22:43 GMT

#109068

i think aquila treads yasha vlads is good on pl

andyrau

13015 Posts

May 22 2014 22:44 GMT

#109069

ur illusions dont benefit from the vlads though

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

May 22 2014 22:52 GMT

#109070

nah but ee is right, you need some kind of substain to stay forever in the jungle
getting an early vlads also allows you to get an early rosh

RoyGBiv_13

United States1275 Posts

May 22 2014 23:01 GMT

#109071

There are other ways to sustain PL in the jungle than lifesteal. For example, illusions.

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

May 22 2014 23:16 GMT

#109072

aw man i had totally forgot that pl could summon illusions, you're right

tauon

Australia1278 Posts

May 22 2014 23:19 GMT

#109073

I think there aren't many good regen options for PL anymore. Vanguard is too slow. Tranquils are permanently broken on illusions (and rarely active on hero). Most other options are kind of meh. At least illusions get the vlads aura and has some sort of utility for pushing/roshing. If it gets you a tower or an extra rosh, at least the vlads would have paid for itself.

I don't build this item personally but of all the bizare item builds in pubs, this isn't a flame-worthy one.

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

May 22 2014 23:29 GMT

#109074

On May 23 2014 08:01 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
There are other ways to sustain PL in the jungle than lifesteal. For example, illusions.

a blanket statement like this is as useful as dog crap
if u actually played pl then u would know the sustain problem is real people are trying to discuss a viable option

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34510 Posts

May 22 2014 23:43 GMT

#109075

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-strategy/3365-hero-phantom-lancer

/nudge

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

May 22 2014 23:44 GMT

#109076

I feel Vlads is sub-optimal on PL but that other options are even worse. Unless your teammates can provide you with the regen it's one of those icky items you're almost forced into.

icystorage

Jollibee19350 Posts

May 22 2014 23:47 GMT

#109077

just ferry salves

Fleetfeet

Canada2854 Posts

May 23 2014 00:01 GMT

#109078

11 game losing streak. And its not even completely because of allies (even though I did have a rubick that stole PA's items from courier, and a luna that started 2nd courier + circlet + quelling blade -> trying to jungle enemy ancients) but mostly because I'm trying to play my 10 in games where they just don't fit.

And my dazzle is awful.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 23 2014 00:03 GMT

#109079

Its ok, Im on a 5 game losing streak. I figure if I get down to single digit MMR, I will just loop back around.