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CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 18:12:27
May 18 2014 18:10 GMT
#108381
On May 19 2014 02:54 Unleashing wrote:
I don't even know how such a bug happens to get into the game, but then again i know very little about programming so what do i know.


Pretty simple. They made a code that would work when people hit rot too often to halve the damage. Unfortunately the condition seems to always happen (instead of when spamming), so he takes half the amount of rot damage he would normally, all the time.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 18 2014 18:14 GMT
#108382
On May 19 2014 03:06 teapoted wrote:
Well Dota is a very inconsistent game in terms of its mechanics so I'm guessing the code can get quite messy on the ground level to allow for that to be added upon without much strain.

I do think Valve needs to run some automated tests whenever they release patches that just goes through every ability in the game in different scenarios to make sure they're doing the amount of damage they're supposed to or are the right range / cover the right radius. Because there seems to be a lot of times when spells aren't the right range or aren't dealing the right damage, simple stuff that could be spotted by automated tests.


Well if you look at stuff like Nat Pagle in Hearthstone every automatic test Blizzard threw at it said that is was working as intended. However it wasn't until they actually manually tested the draw rate that they found it was at 25% rather than the 50% due to the way the game had been coded.

Not saying it isn't a good idea but it won't solve all the small issues
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 19:11:42
May 18 2014 18:15 GMT
#108383
Well that's just a bad test so I don't really think that example applies.
Once you Goblak...
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
May 18 2014 20:02 GMT
#108384
Is it me or are there seriously people suggesting that Pudge is OP in this thread because of this bug? If anything it makes him somewhat playable
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 18 2014 20:08 GMT
#108385
What pudge bug?
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
May 18 2014 20:11 GMT
#108386
On May 19 2014 05:08 Dubzex wrote:
What pudge bug?

rot does half the damage to him
u gotta farm
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 18 2014 20:11 GMT
#108387
People who say that are stupid.
I was always carrying with him.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 18 2014 20:12 GMT
#108388
w0w that is op
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 20:15:03
May 18 2014 20:14 GMT
#108389
On May 19 2014 05:02 Fatalize wrote:
Is it me or are there seriously people suggesting that Pudge is OP in this thread because of this bug? If anything it makes him somewhat playable

Not OP, just a lot more annoying to lane against. Suddenly pudge only deals half damage to himself when you're trading with him which quickly adds up a lot. It can easily get pudge kills he normally wouldn't have gotten because he would've died first.
There's a reason why right after this bug hit his winrate spiked by like 4-5% in pubs, which is quite a good increase in winrate.

http://dotabuff.com/heroes/pudge/trends

Most people don't even know the bug exists and yet it instantly and clearly boosted his winrate by a lot. And pudge was already a fine hero in the hands of a capable player.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 18 2014 20:35 GMT
#108390
So I actually have a mechanics question that like, we need Yango for

is Legion commanders moment of courage procced on the attack, like counter helix/return ect or is it actually on damage
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 18 2014 20:36 GMT
#108391
I see no reason for it to be a different mechanic but I'm not 100% sure
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 18 2014 20:39 GMT
#108392
its on the attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 18 2014 20:53 GMT
#108393
Well I didn't even know there's a difference of the two so I wouldn't be a good yango wannabe.

Someone else step up pls.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 18 2014 22:47 GMT
#108394
well youtube just bought twitch
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 18 2014 22:56 GMT
#108395
On May 19 2014 07:47 teddyoojo wrote:
well youtube just bought twitch

Is it final? I only saw this rumor article when I searched it up.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2807 Posts
May 18 2014 23:08 GMT
#108396
On May 19 2014 05:53 Steveling wrote:
Well I didn't even know there's a difference of the two so I wouldn't be a good yango wannabe.

Someone else step up pls.


It's bugged in dota 2, see random dota2 dev forum.

The spell is based on fan of knives, which obviously infers a bunch of obscure mechanics stuff only wc3 mapmakers understand.

Even more incredibly esoteric and brilliant game mechanics knowledge.

Giant red hammer.


...its hard being yango without actually being icefrog
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 00:18:02
May 19 2014 00:16 GMT
#108397
On May 19 2014 08:08 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 05:53 Steveling wrote:
Well I didn't even know there's a difference of the two so I wouldn't be a good yango wannabe.

Someone else step up pls.


It's bugged in dota 2, see random dota2 dev forum.

The spell is based on fan of knives, which obviously infers a bunch of obscure mechanics stuff only wc3 mapmakers understand.

Even more incredibly esoteric and brilliant game mechanics knowledge.

Giant red hammer.


...its hard being yango without actually being icefrog

This would all be much easier if the DotA-Allstars forums were still up. There was an absolutely unreal collection of DotA mechanics trivia there. There was an entire subforum devoted to it.

The site was taken down what, five, six years ago now? Fucking Pendragon and his fucking LoL shit. That's why I'll never forgive the game.

Seriously, it was like the Library of Alexandria. There was one thread that listed exactly how every ability in the game worked. Every last one. You could just follow the guidelines there and recreate DotA. I mean, it'd take forever and you'd still have to code a lot of stuff from scratch, but even so.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 19 2014 00:53 GMT
#108398
Advanced Mechanics in PlayDota is also extremelly good. Most mechanics questions people have can be answered if you google either PlayDota or DevDota, it's not about the information not being there anymore. It's just easier to ask.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 19 2014 01:04 GMT
#108399
or you can just test it in dota
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2807 Posts
May 19 2014 01:24 GMT
#108400
Yeah in Shaellas case it'd take literally one minute of custom game + knowing the commands.
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