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Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
May 20 2010 23:55 GMT
#21
On May 21 2010 08:52 never_toss wrote:
haha great rage.. embrace it

Other than that, i'd suggest this went into blogs ;O


Ah, I'm actually completely serious about these issues if not precisely the changes I'm proposing. It's probably hard for people who aren't any good to understand where the humor ends and my actual intentions begin, but even if I wrote in a completely different voice it wouldn't change the fact that most people wouldn't actually appreciate the issues; how or why they need to be fixed. I think this approach is a lot more entertaining than some alternatives.
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
May 20 2010 23:55 GMT
#22
On May 21 2010 08:48 -orb- wrote:
Rofl I haven't finished reading but this is pretty funny so far


What a shocker: the biggest crybaby to land a featured stream is entertained by an (obvious) troll post, whining about things as if his vision of balance is the right one. Seems like you've found yourself a kindred spirit.

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When you are prepared, there's no such thing as pressure.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 23:58:24
May 20 2010 23:56 GMT
#23
-The colossus is indeed terrible. All my late game PvZ and PvP are just mass colossus, the only purpose of the others units is to tank the damage, meatshield style :/

-I think the reaper is a way more interesting concept but it needs to be more balanced. OP early game then it becomes absolutly terrible...

-The main problem with the air units is the micro imo. if you could micro properly range and damage could be nerfed. I think Blizz should take a look to the micro mod.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 20 2010 23:56 GMT
#24
okay, not acknowledging your justifications (because they are overblown and filled with rage) - i do have to agree about air units. Something about them just doesn't feel "right".
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Decko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
May 20 2010 23:57 GMT
#25
Well if we're going to remove air units, we need to add nautical units. LOL
Superman does good, you're doing well.
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
May 20 2010 23:58 GMT
#26
On May 21 2010 08:56 Boblion wrote:
The colossus is indeed terrible. All my late game PvZ and PvP are just mass colossus, the only purpose of the others units is to tank the damage, meatshield style :/


Yeah, this thread is the introduction to me proposing a homework assignment for Protoss players over plat ~1600 or so. I'd like the resident Protosses here on TL.net to make an effort to play non-Void Ray, non-Phoenix P without using the Colossus. I think it's gonna be damn near impossible, and I expect that winning percentages would drop to like half of their current value in standard mid- and late-game situations. If that's the case, then the Colossus truly is a huge issue.
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
May 20 2010 23:58 GMT
#27
I'm guessing you just got done RAGE quitting?
"Knowledge is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learn from schooling" -Albert Einstien
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 23:59:03
May 20 2010 23:58 GMT
#28
I think your thread title should be changed lol. I'm amazed this isn't closed.
Tristan
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada566 Posts
May 20 2010 23:58 GMT
#29
On May 21 2010 08:45 Failsafe wrote:
the Mutalisk is returned in full fighting form and is completely capable of all the bullshit it was before except that now you don't have to micro it because nothing on the ground can kill it.


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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
May 21 2010 00:01 GMT
#30
Since you have been here since '06, you probably had a good idea the kind of reaction this thread would get when you wrote it. So you can't plead ignorance.
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