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IriS vs GGPlay - Daum OSL Grand Final - Page 36

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sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
July 21 2007 01:00 GMT
#701
I'm so happy that we see some epic finals once again.
WHAT A FUCKING COMEBACK !!!~
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 21 2007 01:19 GMT
#702
On July 21 2007 09:42 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2007 09:11 Kaolla wrote:
i think throughout the entire game it seemed like ggplay was winning altho his swarming was nice have to admit that -_-

He was in grave danger of losing. Iris' 9'oclock expansion was strong and GGPlay didn't even touch it.

Iris' TvZ is one of the best in the world because of his aggressive ability. He made GGPlay defend from so many different points, any normal player would have been confused. And Iris held the center of the map for most of the game.

It would have been a complete repeat of game 1, until GGPlay teched to ultralisks and finally took out 9'oclock.


the thing I fear most about IriS's TvZ is when the zerg is barely defending, throws down a swarm and you think he'll be safe. But then IriS all of a sudden runs all his mnm into the swarm and runs out the other side, ignoring anything hitting him. Everytime that happens it freaks me out (it happened a few times today and a LOT in Game 5 on Arkanoid vs Savior last season).
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
July 21 2007 01:37 GMT
#703
On July 21 2007 09:15 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2007 07:58 VioleTAK wrote:
Between Games 2 and 3, after the commerical break, here is the GGPlay clip that was aired.
Can anyone translates what GGPlay's father is saying?

GGPlay: This is the first time I've come up from the challenge league.
Since it's my first time, apart from worrying about winning and losing, I want to make a good appearance (play well).

Kim Jun Young Fighting!!

Female Caster: The usually stoic Kim JunYoung is smiling!

"Dad... MY dad!"

GGPlay's Father: Because he doesn't have a mom, I had to do everything for him. I love him very much. Be strong. My lovable JunYoung, FIGHTING!!

GGPlay: My mom would have cheered me on a lot... so this time... to the Final's stage... (runs away, overcome with emotion)


Wow, knowing that it was his dad praying during the games (thanks yakii) made this video so much more emotional, Makes me even more glad that GGPlay won.

Thanks for the translation WhatisProtoss!
We make signature, then defense it.
Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
July 21 2007 01:47 GMT
#704
Ok what is it with the vod link yakii? Its taking like forever to download game 5 of Iris vs GGplay.
Fascism is bad......
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 21 2007 02:20 GMT
#705
On July 21 2007 10:47 Duffybeer wrote:
Ok what is it with the vod link yakii? Its taking like forever to download game 5 of Iris vs GGplay.


Just watch it on Youtube, Baezzi uploads games super fast.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
July 21 2007 03:44 GMT
#706
Wowowowowow.

This was the most intense (and emotional) series in a long time. Shame on the naysayers who claimed it wouldn't be because these players weren't 'big names'. Say what you will, these are the two scariest guys to play against right now, easy. Both are all over the map, with the right units in the right places constantly. It's amazing that they can maintain that level of aggressiveness on so many fronts for so long.

You will not find better dark swarm, plague and scourge use in one game than there was in game 5. How does a zerg beat a terran that matches them in bases and is constantly on the offensive, dropping mnm everywhere? How does a zerg still manage to run all over the map with spider mines everywhere and a nasty ball constantly moving around the middle? Perfect play all around, it's as simple as that. When GGPlay is on, he is nigh unstoppable.

I feel they both have proved themselves, and I'm really glad for that fact. These finals did Boxer and Yellow proud.
Oh, my eSports
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
July 21 2007 04:03 GMT
#707
Well, the final always gives players some kind of "skill boost", either because they trained harder for it than usual, or because they know how much is at stake (money + crowd/respect).
Players who weren't at the top before suddenly turn into monsters capable of winning versus the best of the best. And come out "officially" belonging to the top. Hard to say if GGPlay is better than Savior just because of these 5 games. They both play very similarly, they both are very scary in late game and also try some neat strategies every now and then, and the games vs. Iris were very close for both.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
July 21 2007 05:14 GMT
#708
On July 21 2007 13:03 Brutalisk wrote:
Well, the final always gives players some kind of "skill boost", either because they trained harder for it than usual, or because they know how much is at stake (money + crowd/respect).
Players who weren't at the top before suddenly turn into monsters capable of winning versus the best of the best. And come out "officially" belonging to the top. Hard to say if GGPlay is better than Savior just because of these 5 games. They both play very similarly, they both are very scary in late game and also try some neat strategies every now and then, and the games vs. Iris were very close for both.

What kind of crazy thing is that to say?

When has GGPlay not shown his insane skill like he has now?

GGPlay vs Hwasin on Hitchhiker? (Group D, Daum OSL)
GGPlay vs UpMagic (RO16)
GGPlay vs Casy (Group D)

You know, not all finals go to the final 5th game because both players are on fire. OSL Finals have ended in 3-0s before. Where's the skill boost there?
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
July 21 2007 07:08 GMT
#709
That clip with his father was touching <3
I rooted for GGPlay and am glad he won
Use it or lose it
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
July 21 2007 09:53 GMT
#710
On July 21 2007 13:03 Brutalisk wrote:
Well, the final always gives players some kind of "skill boost", either because they trained harder for it than usual, or because they know how much is at stake (money + crowd/respect).
Players who weren't at the top before suddenly turn into monsters capable of winning versus the best of the best. And come out "officially" belonging to the top. Hard to say if GGPlay is better than Savior just because of these 5 games. They both play very similarly, they both are very scary in late game and also try some neat strategies every now and then, and the games vs. Iris were very close for both.


thats actually probably as far from the truth as you can get.

The players hope to play up to their normal capability with all the nerves/pressure.

No one gets a "skill boost" from the finals.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-21 12:05:41
July 21 2007 12:05 GMT
#711
game 1 GGplay sucked

game 2 was nice, spells everywhere.

game 3 Iris probably should have made turrets at his push, the mutas were raping his forces.

game 4 Guardians Devourer strat worked. Using varied strats is a mark of a good champion.

game 5 smart stop lurker use. Damn that's lots of lurkers. Lost all his vessels. Lost dropship. Iris losing composure, suiciding his rines to lurkers. nice dark swarm usage.

Thanks for the vods. That place was PACKED. I think GGplay outplayed Iris starting from the second half of game 2. GGplay played like he belongs in top 5 KeSPA.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
July 21 2007 12:45 GMT
#712
On July 21 2007 14:14 WhatisProtoss wrote:
What kind of crazy thing is that to say?

When has GGPlay not shown his insane skill like he has now?

When he lost in the MSL prelims to the terran who even didn't it further o.o
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
July 21 2007 13:43 GMT
#713
Oh man I forgot all about this because I was too busy reading Harry Potter ;;. Sounds like a good series too.
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
July 21 2007 15:29 GMT
#714
On July 21 2007 18:53 Sadist wrote:
thats actually probably as far from the truth as you can get.

The players hope to play up to their normal capability with all the nerves/pressure.

No one gets a "skill boost" from the finals.


These discussions are always subjective to a high degree, so just view it as my opinion. Don't speak of truth or no truth when you don't know how the pros felt exactly.
I've never seen Iris or GGPlay play so well before, and the same is true for the finalists of many previous OSLs. That's why I said this.

@ WhatIsProtoss:
Hwasin is overrated, and Casy and UpMagic aren't exactly what I'd call top players. That's also just my opinion, you're free to have another one but as there's no way to prove it we're both free to think what we think.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-21 15:53:16
July 21 2007 15:52 GMT
#715
On July 22 2007 00:29 Brutalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2007 18:53 Sadist wrote:
thats actually probably as far from the truth as you can get.

The players hope to play up to their normal capability with all the nerves/pressure.

No one gets a "skill boost" from the finals.


These discussions are always subjective to a high degree, so just view it as my opinion. Don't speak of truth or no truth when you don't know how the pros felt exactly.
I've never seen Iris or GGPlay play so well before, and the same is true for the finalists of many previous OSLs. That's why I said this.

@ WhatIsProtoss:
Hwasin is overrated, and Casy and UpMagic aren't exactly what I'd call top players. That's also just my opinion, you're free to have another one but as there's no way to prove it we're both free to think what we think.

Opinions are worthless if you can't back them up with solid reasoning. I say that Mumyung is the greatest zerg who has ever played...I have no reasons for this it's just my opinion...see how stupid that sounds?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-21 16:02:45
July 21 2007 16:02 GMT
#716
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOLY FUCK BEST FINAL GAME EVER

(sorry im on a bit of a delay ) i just finished the games i am so fucking pumped up now
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 21 2007 16:24 GMT
#717
That was a truly amazing final. After game 2 finished (like most people) I had completely written off GGplay. Especially as hitchhiker and Monty Hall were next. He had lost on Monghwan which was the map he was supposed to win on too. One of the best comebacks ever.
And game 5 was incredibly well-played by both players, many zergs would have lost hatcheries to those drops but GGplay defended perfectly and the amount of sci vessels he caught- that was what won it for him.
9 out of the 16 players were terrans and a zerg still won. Beautiful
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 21 2007 17:18 GMT
#718
On July 21 2007 21:45 InRaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2007 14:14 WhatisProtoss wrote:
What kind of crazy thing is that to say?

When has GGPlay not shown his insane skill like he has now?

When he lost in the MSL prelims to the terran who even didn't it further o.o


Iris and GGplay definitely lost on purpose during that so that they could leave and practice for their finals (maps are different mostly). They probably showed up out of respect to mbcgame.
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-21 19:49:45
July 21 2007 19:49 GMT
#719
lol look at the picture and you know they're related to iris

[image loading]
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51638 Posts
July 21 2007 20:30 GMT
#720
the guy on the right with the blurred face looks like um jae-kyung's son.
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