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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
Damn, I wish I had stayed up for this. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
I was actually thinking stork would reach the finals vs GGPlay here, and we'd see FBH vs Bisu in the MSL, but oh well. Didn't need those 10 liquibet points anyhow.  On a note more related to the series, I don't buy that whole 'he couldn't scout' talk. Stork saw all he needed to see. He saw there was no fast expo, and he wasn't being allowed into Iris' base. At that point, how can you not realize what was coming, especially in the third game after being timing pushed twice already? The only other real alternative to 2 fact would be a quick bio rush, which is even more reason to play safer. Look, everyone knows Iris is very aggressive and exceptionally good at timing - everyone. With that in mind, even the game on monty was risky of stork. I think what it comes down to is that toss need to adapt again. We've seen quite a few toss players having trouble lately when going with early fast expos. Kang Min looked extremely strong a month ago, but he's lost a lot of short games since then. With recent games like oov vs chalrenge and this series, I think the toss 1gate FE is in serious jeopardy. Bisu has been one of the few that is consistently able to pull it off, but there are still holes that players like Iris can and will exploit. | ||
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Cpt.beefy
Ireland799 Posts
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
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GTR
51449 Posts
Watch Flash's TvZ's in the Proleague, such as the game vs Odin. | ||
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
On July 06 2007 16:57 GTR-2-Go wrote: Stop counting out both GGPlay and Flash guys, both players have godly end-games. Watch Flash's TvZ's in the Proleague, such as the game vs Odin. I was just going to say have any of you watched Flash's game against Odin? Saying all he does is cheese and he has no end game is just horribly misinformed. Obviously I'd say GGPlay has the better endgame but Flash has cheesed what, 4 times out of 18 games? A lot of you people just have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I'd still say it's 50-50 or give the slight edge to GGPlay but thinking Flash is going to cheese every game is dumb. | ||
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zuqbu
Germany797 Posts
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TheGreatOne
United States534 Posts
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
On July 06 2007 18:29 boghat wrote: I was just going to say have any of you watched Flash's game against Odin? Saying all he does is cheese and he has no end game is just horribly misinformed. Obviously I'd say GGPlay has the better endgame but Flash has cheesed what, 4 times out of 18 games? A lot of you people just have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I'd still say it's 50-50 or give the slight edge to GGPlay but thinking Flash is going to cheese every game is dumb. I've been saying he's going to cheese because it seems to be the obvious thing to do in his situation. He's proven he can pull it off, and if GGPlay has a weak point, it's certainly his early game. Letting GGPlay get 10-15 mins into the game without being heavily weakened just doesn't seem like the smart thing to do. His late game is at the point where it's utterly scary. And while Flash is 4-0 in TvZ in PL, I can't say I've been too impressed with his late game in any of them. I remember his game vs clon as being one of the worst I've watched this season (and this is 0-9 ZvT clon we're talking about). Odin is not exactly the best zerg player himself, luxury went down to all-in cheese, and jaedong played uncharacteristically bad that game and lost pretty early. | ||
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On July 06 2007 19:30 QibingZero wrote: I've been saying he's going to cheese because it seems to be the obvious thing to do in his situation. He's proven he can pull it off, and if GGPlay has a weak point, it's certainly his early game. Letting GGPlay get 10-15 mins into the game without being heavily weakened just doesn't seem like the smart thing to do. His late game is at the point where it's utterly scary. And while Flash is 4-0 in TvZ in PL, I can't say I've been too impressed with his late game in any of them. I remember his game vs clon as being one of the worst I've watched this season (and this is 0-9 ZvT clon we're talking about). Odin is not exactly the best zerg player himself, luxury went down to all-in cheese, and jaedong played uncharacteristically bad that game and lost pretty early. So basically what you're saying is that you have no idea how good his late game is? | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
On July 06 2007 20:42 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: So basically what you're saying is that you have no idea how good his late game is? No, but it's pretty obvious that he's a new player and as such we don't have a whole library of games to go by. I'm saying that we have clear examples of GGPlay tearing it up late game in this matchup, but the little we have to see as far as Flash goes isn't exactly spectacular, and he even admitted that in his last interview. | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
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VioleTAK
4315 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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TerranHasArrived
United States94 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
Neither of them will beat Iris. | ||
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
If the calendar is correct Monty Hall is only being played once: Flash (T-KTF) vs GGPlay (Z-Hanbit) Game 1 @ Monghwan Game 2 @ Hitchhiker Game 3 @ Python Game 4 @ Monty Hall Game 5 @ Monghwan | ||
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
I'm not really sure then, but it doesn't matter because neither of them will beat Iris. You think he won series' against Savior and Stork to lose to one of them? I think not. That would be the worlds greatest injustice. | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
Iris played very well. Sexy Terran! | ||
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