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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 17 2007 18:23 GMT
#141
On May 18 2007 03:22 Storchen wrote:
OMFG! I went down to the washing machine AND ITS OVER?? WTF! I want my money back!


You did not pay anything.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
May 17 2007 18:24 GMT
#142
On May 18 2007 03:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
if NaDa played a tad safer..
will be very rough for nada to make it through, still

on the other hand.. even i as a big NaDa fan have to say.. after some time he simply has to beging to lose more than he wins. Hes human, too and the same happened to everyone even to boxer himself and to oov the machine nr.2 beneath nada
absolutely... its going to happen to savoir too... what about xellos he doesn't win ofter too.
the point is everyone got strong and weak moments.. you cant be always perfect
tvt msg me anytime
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
May 17 2007 18:25 GMT
#143
I love when Nada loses... just because we get to read Naruto's stupid posts
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
May 17 2007 18:25 GMT
#144
On May 18 2007 03:23 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2007 03:22 Storchen wrote:
OMFG! I went down to the washing machine AND ITS OVER?? WTF! I want my money back!


You did not pay anything.


where is Cpt.Obvious when you need him ...
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
May 17 2007 18:25 GMT
#145
For what it's worth, NaDa's scout was very late AND went the wrong direction twice. It was only when he saw Bisu really only had 2 goons that he figured "k this is going to be a drop". I guess by that time it was way too late though.

Was hyped for this match all week. Kinda disappointed
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-17 18:26:26
May 17 2007 18:25 GMT
#146
nada was a bit unlucky scouting bisu last (he wasted about 15 sec at the RoV map position though, his scv went to the wrong place)

but still, if his bay was 20 sec earlier (did he need the 2nd fac that early??) he would've held with minimal dmg
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-17 18:27:05
May 17 2007 18:26 GMT
#147
not to mention had positions been corners nada would have gotten that detector up in time. a matter of seconds really. bisu executed well, just a bo + timing + luck thing.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
May 17 2007 18:26 GMT
#148
On May 18 2007 03:22 PoP wrote:
In this kind of situation I wonder why most T's first reaction, instead of trying to defend the main (which is kinda hopeless), is not to build like two turrets at expo ASAP while sending all the SCVs/floatable buildings to it.


They do it if they have an academy on the way. Nada was just behind in all ways, lost a ton of minerals on the turrets and lost tons of scv. Im gonna wager that he probably was unable to skillfully cancel some of the turrets and stuff.

This is a major difference between the 8mineral and 9+ mineral maps. That little bit of extra mineral gets your non-gas items like turrets or having extra money for an acad a lot quicker. This is why on Lotem/Back in the day fast DT was considered so beastly. Because there isnt a lot the T can do if he is not 100% knowing you are doing it.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51694 Posts
May 17 2007 18:27 GMT
#149
Holy shit they tell you what their apm is!
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Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
May 17 2007 18:29 GMT
#150
Well at least one protoss is showing power in both leagues for now. Bisu is really playing good and smart when is needed. You have to admit that <3 to Bisu.

I hope NaDa will win next two games. Never surrender!

Climbing walls of an endless circle
SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
May 17 2007 18:29 GMT
#151
On May 18 2007 03:22 PoP wrote:
In this kind of situation I wonder why most T's first reaction, instead of trying to defend the main (which is kinda hopeless), is not to build like two turrets at expo ASAP while sending all the SCVs/floatable buildings to it.

if you don't do anything in the main, P user will know you are doing something elsewhere, then the DTs wont stick in main.

Building turrets actually is to attract the DTs
En Taro Terran
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
May 17 2007 18:31 GMT
#152
NaDa mus of known something was up, he saw 2 goons..... He knew a reaver or DT drop was coming T_T;
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
May 17 2007 18:31 GMT
#153
On May 18 2007 03:26 red.venom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2007 03:22 PoP wrote:
In this kind of situation I wonder why most T's first reaction, instead of trying to defend the main (which is kinda hopeless), is not to build like two turrets at expo ASAP while sending all the SCVs/floatable buildings to it.


They do it if they have an academy on the way. Nada was just behind in all ways, lost a ton of minerals on the turrets and lost tons of scv. Im gonna wager that he probably was unable to skillfully cancel some of the turrets and stuff.


Well, had he transfered everything right away, he wouldn't have lost more than 2-3 SCVs and 1-2 depots (and some mining time of course), but he'd still have been in the game imho. Then bunker + acad at expo, then a scan, then he takes his main back (he already has the CC). That would have been my own first reaction anyway, but I'm no pro and most of all not playing Terran.
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Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
May 17 2007 18:31 GMT
#154
They play Pink in the commercials?! I'm disappointed.
Cowboy
Profile Joined January 2007
United States156 Posts
May 17 2007 18:32 GMT
#155
is naruto the new magic~phil? except with nada instead of fisheye lol
Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
May 17 2007 18:32 GMT
#156
Nadas turret was nearly done when the DT's entered his main. It was only seconds from completing. I'm pretty sure it was not a buildorder win but an execution win.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't Park Yeong Min - CJ fighting!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 17 2007 18:32 GMT
#157
About the saveness of this build order, it would have worked pretty well vs the 1 o clock position.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
May 17 2007 18:34 GMT
#158
On May 18 2007 03:21 SeBASTa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2007 03:18 Hot_Bid wrote:
wait why did he GG?

i mean i understand he was almost at an unwinnable position but still... he had a base, a turret, and a fac, and scvs, bisu's expo wasn't warped in yet

i mean nada lost 99%, but he doesnt have to play any more games today and just fight! why not?

nothing to lose, people have stayed in at much worse spots -_-

you can see he even forgot to lift his CC which was destroyed by DT. I think he's in a really bad mood


He also stayed several seconds longer than was necessary. I can only guess what was going through his mind just before he hit GG...
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
May 17 2007 18:34 GMT
#159
tvsz 4:0
우리는 대-한민국입니다
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51694 Posts
May 17 2007 18:34 GMT
#160
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