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First of all i never hacked, and i'm never going to do that. Starting from the beginning:
1.My lings saw the wall -> That means, it's mostly going to be some non-standard play.
2. My ling saw that production of marines was stopped.
3. Vulture came out -> That means this is going to be 100% Vessel/Valkyrie/Wraith/Dropship/Mass vult play.
4. That is why i made 2 scourges cause i thought it's valkyrie play, since we played a few games with flisk on ladder Fish and he saw that i do 2hmuta build few times.
On December 28 2014 02:45 juvenal wrote:
Flisk is ranked C on fish and known to play standard 99% of the time, he usually performs the builds he's really good with.
Flisk is ranked E on fish.
End of case.
I apply for the ban to the iFU.TTF for BMing me in the name of the topic.
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On December 28 2014 02:49 trutaCz wrote:
I apply for the ban to the iFU.TTF for BMing me in the name of the subject.
Totally agreed. Cheating accusations are very serious and shouldn't be thrown around as carelessly as they were here too.
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On December 28 2014 02:49 trutaCz wrote:
Flisk is ranked E on fish.
should it be regarded as BM from you towards Flisk, then? Behave yourself. Flisk does not have any complaints btw, it's some of the respected community members who are furious.
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What are you talking about, type /stats troposphere, and check his rank. The person who should behave it's you, since you're accusing me of HACKING.
it's some of the respected community members who are furious. ->
Keep going. Respected community members who BM the other person -> that's a legit evidence of being RESPECTED.
That were my last words about that bullshit, bye.
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One of the scourge died to a turret anyway!
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On December 28 2014 03:00 trutaCz wrote:
What are you talking about, type /stats troposphere, and check his rank. The person who should behave it's you, since you're accusing me of HACKING.
first of all, I'm a speaker, I'm not accusing you of anything. Second, I already apologized this even started. Third, the fact that Flisk has reached C the other day can't be denied, he's at very least steady D. So are you, if you ask ME personally. There are very skilled players who think the game was suspicious, I won't call the names for the sake of their reputation.
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On December 28 2014 03:08 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2014 03:00 trutaCz wrote:
What are you talking about, type /stats troposphere, and check his rank. The person who should behave it's you, since you're accusing me of HACKING. first of all, I'm a speaker, I'm not accusing you of anything. Second, I already apologized this even started. Third, the fact that Flisk has reached C the other day can't be denied, he's at very least steady D. So are you, if you ask ME personally. There are very skilled players who think the game was suspicious, I won't call the names for the sake of their reputation.
They should be worried about their reputation as very skilled players if they think that game was suspicious. The only suspicious thing is how terran could think that build is a good idea!
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On December 28 2014 03:00 trutaCz wrote:
What are you talking about, type /stats troposphere, and check his rank. The person who should behave it's you, since you're accusing me of HACKING.
it's some of the respected community members who are furious. ->
Keep going. Respected community members who BM the other person -> that's a legit evidence of being RESPECTED.
That were my last words about that bullshit, bye.
And how i BMing you in Topic name?
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Will have to watch the trutaCz games when I get home but I believe trutaCz, I was really sad I didn't get to play my games vs Djem5 yesterday even though I would have lost most likely ( he is the better player ) , Although I still wanted to play still and I waited hours on end to play in the tour so it was really upsetting. The coinflip was funny though, never been in this situation before. Hope all this drama works out :-P
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discussing this subject in this thread is no good idea anyway, if you do it civil or not. I'm sure Yoda will watch the replay closely and talk to skilled players he trusts when he feels it is necessary. If a decision is to be made, it will be made by the tournament admin and there is no good arguing here about it.
@Gecko equivalent to pet picks? haha nice :D
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Finals today at 11 CET right ? At least this is what I saw yesterday
ps nevermind, saw ilovev's post on page 3, it is 11 CET confirmed
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On December 28 2014 02:28 juvenal wrote:Ok, apparently there are questions regarding the third game of Flisk vs Trutacz. Flisk went for rather rare strategy (exp, 2 ports) and as it appeared on Yoda's stream Trutacz while having no intel paused the game and proceeded to make 5 mutas and 2 scourges instead of the 6 standard mutalisks. The trajectory he'd chosen to enter Flisk's main base was also found curious by some spectators. Scourges then destroyed the wraiths and the main was lost as it had no protection, the game ended soon thereafter and Trutacz won the match 2-1. All possible conclusions are so far but speculations, we're sorry the conflict arose. The replay can be dl'd here: http://defiler.ru/tourney/act_download.php?t=415&m=20339&rep=3We would be thankful to hear from TL community and Trutacz himself. Of course it won't be clear if the cheating occurred, so the decisions will be made by the tour's admin Yoda based on your opinions. ps: we apologize for our hot-blooded fellas creating the previous thread.
I do not know what's going on, but I would like to say something about 2 scourges.
I gave him an advice to make 8 mutalisks and 2 scourges(3 hatcheries opening) against a terran user who plays 1 rax expo and slow mm timing or # of mm is low. I assume trutacz played 2 hatcheries mutalisk and he used my advice in that game.
by the way, I did not watch that game.
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Thank you. From what Scan and Truta say it follows that most probably no hack was used, that should be it.
We apologize again, Trutacz ♥
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Juvenal hungry for the drama.
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On December 28 2014 15:20 deathgod6 wrote:
Juvenal hungry for the drama.
should you perhaps read what I said again? I've been delegated as a speaker, I'm just translating the opinions, some players don't even speak english --. I didn't even pay attention to the game until the shitstorm started.
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gogo regame flisk vs truetach
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Anyway fast expand double starport is a difficult bo to execute and always get punished by 2 hatch muta because of the delayed wraith which forces terran to make turret and therefore leaves plenty of space for zerg. it's exactly what we saw that game. If tt really knew it was double starport, then making 2 scourges would have been a pretty dumb thing to do, 6 muta would have been better.
I personally don't believe at all in a hack here...
edit : and to mention the poor decision making from flisk to go with that bo, it's a bo3 game 3, not a chance zerg would take the risk of losing to rush bunk, therefore overpool was most likely to happen and the only reliable bo with overpool is some kind of ling push or 2 hatch muta, so a fast cc double starport is really a thing you don't want to do. I don't get the "strange path" thing, tt takes the shortest way to terran's natural which is exactly what you should do when going for a 2 hatch muta. The only time you would take a different path would be if you expect a dropship or speed vulture counter, that couldn't be the case since flisk went for fast expand... I don't know who actually started those rumors but they are clearly not zerg player or have poor knowledge in that matter.
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1.wall is standart on this map. it means terran can do anything.
it means it can be mass factories also
2.it can be mass goliaths
in this b/o every larva is very important (if zerg comes on main with 2 hach all in BO and saw
3.if it's usual game for trutacz, let him show at least one another game where he did the same (5 mutas + 2 scourges) without scouting.
4.If he zerg comes on main and see 4 goliafs with 2 hach mutal it's GG coz zerg wasted larva on scourges
5.That means trutacz made pause in the middle of a game took skype and some one told him what terran did and he made that scourges and move to terran main where turels was on 60% ignore haras on expo
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